150/130/110 Triple Hole Cranks

Julia B · 2012-07-13, 01:34 PM

also, colors!

munirocks · 2012-07-13, 01:50 PM

Non ISIS, right?

Julia B · 2012-07-13, 01:55 PM

No, they are ISIS compatible. I'm pretty sure that all mad4one cranks are made ISIS compatible (possibly in addition to a non-ISIS design).

Here's a picture of the other side of the cranks so you can see the pin system that is used, I think the 5 pin and 10 pin are ISIS compatible. Not sure if the triple hole cranks are pictured but Marco has confirmed they are ISIS compatible.

munirocks · 2012-07-13, 02:00 PM

I see...

Julia B · 2012-07-13, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by munirocks

I see...

What are you unsure of? If you have any more questions I can answer what I know, or you could contact Marco or Olaf.

munirocks · 2012-07-13, 02:30 PM

Just wondering what they are really compatible with. KH, Nimbus, Schlumpf or is it just for the new other ISIS that only works with m41 hubs?

Julia B · 2012-07-13, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by munirocks

Just wondering what they are really compatible with. KH, Nimbus, Schlumpf or is it just for the new other ISIS that only works with m41 hubs?

If you're referencing this thread, although some mad4one cranks are produced in other versions (6 pin and maybe others) that will only work with mad4one hubs, it has been confirmed that the triple hole cranks and the disk brake hub will both be ISIS compatible. So they will work with any other ISIS products that you have. I'm fairly sure that all designs using the 5 pin or 10 pin interface are ISIS compatible.

Hope that cleared it up!

knoxuni · 2012-07-13, 08:49 PM

may be building a mad4one hub

vookash · 2012-07-14, 07:59 AM

Julia do you know how 5pin interface on the cranks connects to 10 spline ISIS hub?

I'm looking at the photos here and at Marco's facebook and I haven't noticed any 5pin cranks. Fortunately triple holes are available in 10pin ISIS version

Julia B · 2012-07-14, 02:00 PM

Yep, I have 5 pin and 10 pin cranks, which both fit on my ISIS hub. In the 5 pin, the pins just go into every other spline. The silver cranks in the middle right of post #3 are 5 pin.

Edit: Here's a picture of some of the 6 pin hubs!

Julia B · 2012-07-14, 02:42 PM

Here's a picture so you can see it (koxx one 10 spline hub, not mad4one).

knoxuni · 2012-07-14, 03:49 PM

ok so is this going to be the new standard? i am very confused!

Julia B · 2012-07-14, 07:15 PM

The 6 pin interface was created to make the aluminum hubs strong enough to use in trials, street, and muni. It's only used by mad4one right now, to save weight by using aluminum while still being strong enough for all disciplines. It's my understanding that all mad4one products will be produced in a cromo ISIS version, and some will also be offered in a lighter weight aluminum version using the 6 pin design. Mad4one also makes aluminum ISIS hubs, but they're designed for freestyle, racing, and flatland.

ShafferJN · 2012-07-14, 07:46 PM

I wish I was rich.

Sooo nice!

Nurse Ben · 2012-07-15, 01:19 AM

Julia, thanks for the picture with the pins in place, that's the sort of information that was missing.

I'm going to guess at why the aluminum hubs were designed with thicker splines. Josh at UDC told me that when he rode the aluminum Nimbus disc hub for muni, that the splines twisted, so a thicker spline would be stronger.

My only concern would be crank splines twisting/bending if a five pin is used with a ten pin (ISIS).

Do you know what the pins are made of, i.e 6000 or 7000 Aluminum?

What I'd really like to see is a true ISIS standard with a steep taper or a physical stop on the spindle, this would put the cranks in the same location every time with no creep issues.

Lots of pretty colors...

2012-07-13, 01:34 PM	#1
Julia B Flatland! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Texas Age: 17 Posts: 1,870	150/130/110 Triple Hole Cranks also, colors! Attached Images __________________ Women's Flatland World Champion Team Mad4One Team Unicycle.tv Team Elevated Clothing Co. Truth Monarch

2012-07-13, 01:50 PM	#2
munirocks money rocks too Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Freiburg, Germany Posts: 1,829	Non ISIS, right? __________________ µ-knee

2012-07-13, 02:00 PM	#4
munirocks money rocks too Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Freiburg, Germany Posts: 1,829	I see... __________________ µ-knee

2012-07-13, 02:30 PM	#6
munirocks money rocks too Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Freiburg, Germany Posts: 1,829	Just wondering what they are really compatible with. KH, Nimbus, Schlumpf or is it just for the new other ISIS that only works with m41 hubs? __________________ µ-knee

2012-07-13, 08:49 PM	#8
knoxuni wes style!! Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: central ohio Age: 18 Posts: 4,695	may be building a mad4one hub __________________ Be a dumbass experience dumbass consequences its full circle of dumbass And then, do it again. That makes it an infinite loop!

2012-07-13, 01:55 PM	#3
Julia B Flatland! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Texas Age: 17 Posts: 1,870	No, they are ISIS compatible. I'm pretty sure that all mad4one cranks are made ISIS compatible (possibly in addition to a non-ISIS design). Here's a picture of the other side of the cranks so you can see the pin system that is used, I think the 5 pin and 10 pin are ISIS compatible. Not sure if the triple hole cranks are pictured but Marco has confirmed they are ISIS compatible. Attached Images __________________ Women's Flatland World Champion Team Mad4One Team Unicycle.tv Team Elevated Clothing Co. Truth Monarch Last edited by Julia B; 2012-07-13 at 02:00 PM.

2012-07-14, 07:59 AM	#9
vookash ('')( :)(..)(: )('') Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Krakow, Poland Age: 31 Posts: 868	Julia do you know how 5pin interface on the cranks connects to 10 spline ISIS hub? I'm looking at the photos here and at Marco's facebook and I haven't noticed any 5pin cranks. Fortunately triple holes are available in 10pin ISIS version

2012-07-14, 02:00 PM	#10
Julia B Flatland! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Texas Age: 17 Posts: 1,870	Yep, I have 5 pin and 10 pin cranks, which both fit on my ISIS hub. In the 5 pin, the pins just go into every other spline. The silver cranks in the middle right of post #3 are 5 pin. Edit: Here's a picture of some of the 6 pin hubs! Attached Images __________________ Women's Flatland World Champion Team Mad4One Team Unicycle.tv Team Elevated Clothing Co. Truth Monarch Last edited by Julia B; 2012-07-14 at 02:07 PM.

2012-07-14, 02:42 PM	#11
Julia B Flatland! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Texas Age: 17 Posts: 1,870	Here's a picture so you can see it (koxx one 10 spline hub, not mad4one). Attached Images __________________ Women's Flatland World Champion Team Mad4One Team Unicycle.tv Team Elevated Clothing Co. Truth Monarch

2012-07-14, 03:49 PM	#12
knoxuni wes style!! Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: central ohio Age: 18 Posts: 4,695	ok so is this going to be the new standard? i am very confused! __________________ Be a dumbass experience dumbass consequences its full circle of dumbass And then, do it again. That makes it an infinite loop!

2012-07-14, 07:15 PM	#13
Julia B Flatland! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Texas Age: 17 Posts: 1,870	The 6 pin interface was created to make the aluminum hubs strong enough to use in trials, street, and muni. It's only used by mad4one right now, to save weight by using aluminum while still being strong enough for all disciplines. It's my understanding that all mad4one products will be produced in a cromo ISIS version, and some will also be offered in a lighter weight aluminum version using the 6 pin design. Mad4one also makes aluminum ISIS hubs, but they're designed for freestyle, racing, and flatland. __________________ Women's Flatland World Champion Team Mad4One Team Unicycle.tv Team Elevated Clothing Co. Truth Monarch Last edited by Julia B; 2012-07-14 at 07:20 PM.

2012-07-14, 07:46 PM	#14
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2012-07-15, 01:19 AM	#15
Nurse Ben XC Muni Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Southeast USA Age: 47 Posts: 3,969	Julia, thanks for the picture with the pins in place, that's the sort of information that was missing. I'm going to guess at why the aluminum hubs were designed with thicker splines. Josh at UDC told me that when he rode the aluminum Nimbus disc hub for muni, that the splines twisted, so a thicker spline would be stronger. My only concern would be crank splines twisting/bending if a five pin is used with a ten pin (ISIS). Do you know what the pins are made of, i.e 6000 or 7000 Aluminum? What I'd really like to see is a true ISIS standard with a steep taper or a physical stop on the spindle, this would put the cranks in the same location every time with no creep issues. Lots of pretty colors... __________________ I dream of hamsters and elderberries

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