100 Mile world record attempt on March 10th - Page 2

Straightarrow · 2012-03-01, 12:16 PM

Good luck. Get lots of rest before the event, stay hydrated, stay focused but have fun.

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.”
― Theodore Roosevelt

gathan · 2012-03-01, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by magnustudios

300g per shoe? Wow. Something to look forward to in a couple years when the impact wear out I guess.

Actually, now I think it might per pair, not clear on website. In any case, they're still significantly lighter.

magnustudios · 2012-03-01, 04:37 PM

Thanks Straightarrow, haha planning a big event around it makes this challenging, but I'm doing my best!

That is an amazing quote. Great thing to wake up to. I'm going to read that again before the ride!

Quote:

Actually, now I think it might per pair, not clear on website. In any case, they're still significantly lighter.

I'll try to find a scale to weigh the impacts at some point. They're really not that bad! And are much lighter than my previous shoes (I'll try to find out their brand when I'm back home... Axo or something?).

Harley · 2012-03-01, 05:57 PM

Best of luck to you Phil.

GizmoDuck · 2012-03-01, 08:06 PM

Good luck Phil~!

It's a beast of a record, particularly on an Unguni. It's been in existence for almost 25yrs, so thanks for kicking off interest in this again.

There have been at least 3 or 4 attempts at this record since 1987, so hopefully this will be it!

Phil is also going to be the first unicyclist to attempt a record under the new IUF World Record Guidelines. It aims to standardise records and make it reproduceable. As such, this will be even tougher than the previous record- there is no drafting allowed.

All the best Phil!

Ken Looi
(former attemptee of the 100mile record

)

johnfoss · 2012-03-01, 08:29 PM

Best of luck to you, Phil! And cool that you are taking it on ungeared. A faster geared record would be a lot less amazing.

In 1981 I ordered my first big wheel unicycle with the idea of doing a 100 mile record in mind. At that time, the record was 10:37. But by the time my big wheel was delivered in 1982, the record was down to 9:20. I'm glad I never attempted it on that heavy wheel with its steel, double-walled rim and solid rubber tire. Ouch! Of course, those other records were set with steel rims and solid rubber tires too...

Quote:

Originally Posted by GizmoDuck

As such, this will be even tougher than the previous record- there is no drafting allowed.

For what it's worth, I don't think there was any drafting in the 1987 record. Though it was a race, I think mostly the two competitors rode their own race. However I wasn't there, so they may have been together for part of it.

I love my 5.10 shoes, I have two pair. With 100mm cranks and a heavy 36" wheel, shoe weight is probably not a big factor. Especially when compared to comfort and secure grip over such a long ride.

rob.northcott · 2012-03-01, 10:16 PM

I like 5:10s for unicycling (I use clipless on bikes). Mine are Impact High-top which are not the lightest shoes but they're not THAT heavy - good for muni anyway, and the grip is superb. The only bad point for me is that they absorb a lot of water when it's wet (which is common here) and take ages to dry out. Perhaps for mostly road use a lighter shoe would be good - I know Tue (tujotomi on here, but he doesn't post much these days) had some light running or climbing shoes (not sure which) resoled with 5:10 rubber for Ride the Lobster. But with ten days to go, ride what you're used to!

Rob

saskatchewanian · 2012-03-02, 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by magnustudios

Eric: Sam is correct!

Nightrider Tire, 29" tube, Stealth rim
KH (ungeared) hub, Qu-Ax 100mm cranks, Odyssey pedeals
5:10 Impact shoes (just got them a couple weeks ago, very pleased)
KH frame with KH adjustable seatpost. Fusion freeride seat. I really want to try the street, but it's too late to think about changing configurations.
KH T-Bar and Profile Airstryke aero-bars -- just upgraded from a broken cheapo pair. Got the new ones used from my LBS (for free!).

Here's me riding, pretending not to be cold in the -2c air while my friend took some photos (old aero-bar setup):

Where's the eastern destination?

looks like a solid setup. Your aero setup looks pretty ideal for this kind of thing.

Don't sweat the tube. I never bothered to weigh mine but I did compare by hand the weight of the FOSS tube in the box and a regular 29" tube in a box and they felt almost exactly the same weight. I couldn't tell any difference in tire feel with the Foss tube installed but it was slightly easier to setup and holds air better.

The Eastern Destination is Goose Bay, Labrador. A couple friends are going on this crazy snowmobile race and I am going as their support person.

unijuul · 2012-03-05, 04:14 PM

I am impressed how fast you can spinn at so cold condition. Here in Norway I can not manage to get the fast spinn before June :-)

Interesting to see the aero bar setup on your unicycle. I must try the aero bar my self this summer.

Wish you good luck!

magnustudios · 2012-03-05, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unijuul

I am impressed how fast you can spinn at so cold condition. Here in Norway I can not manage to get the fast spinn before June :-)

Interesting to see the aero bar setup on your unicycle. I must try the aero bar my self this summer.

Wish you good luck!

The time of year is really not ideal, but it corresponds with the best time to organize this event for university students. Although, trying to train for this while studying engineering is also not ideal, haha. Watching the long-range weather forecast for Saturday is driving me crazy, as it seems to change +-8 degrees every time I check it. I'll be so happy if it's 4c sunny and calm (current forecast). But despite the sub-optimal context, I do think I've got a shot at it!

I'm really happy with the aero-bars, and I'd highly recommend it. I first got them just before a tour in 2010 to the east coast. I wouldn't go back. I've broken a piece on my KH t-bar twice now because they put too much stress, but it's still worth it. They're waaaay flexy on the t-bar, but they definitely work. To whoever finally makes a V-Frame: I will be your first customer! (if I can afford it...)

Eric: wow that sounds fun!

Didn't think the shoes would be such a hot issue! I like the 5:10s. If I do experiment with shoes later, I'll probably also try re-soling some light-weight shoes with the 5:10 rubber, but I'd also insert something to make the soles stiff. Personally I find stiff soles make me feel more confident, and are more comfortable after a couple hours of riding. It would be sweet if the 5:10 impacts were even stiffer, but they're much better than any normal shoe for me.

I do actually think that light-weight is really key as well. I find I can ride the fastest with the least effort if I focus on keeping my feet really "light" on the pedals, sort of just barely touching them. Lighter shoes do help with that.

magnustudios · 2012-03-08, 06:55 PM

Hello!

So, on Saturday I thought it would be cool to have live progress updates on the website. My server is not a tank, so I figured hosting it on google docs and using their API made sense; at least then the data entry from the timers won't be brought down by any load spike.

Here's the sheet I drew up with some fake data for now:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...ubWNXQVE#gid=0
There's a chart on the second sheet (see tabs at the bottom).

I think what I did makes sense, but it would be awesome if someone on here could look it over and let me know if they see any issues that might be worth addressing in advance!

On the chart sheet, I used lap speed instead of the lap time directly, and the horizontal line is the current record pace. Do you think that is the most interesting, or maybe plotting the seconds-per-lap directly would be better?

Of course we'll also be using paper documentation to fulfil the new IUF record guidelines as well, this is just for the website.

Everything is just about ready to rock and roll, just need to tie up some loose ends still and hope for Sunday's weather to come Saturday!

scott ttocs · 2012-03-08, 07:42 PM

You could also plot a deviation from record pace as a bar graph. I would recommend comparing total time elapsed at each lap versus total time at a record pace (assume a linear pace). This difference would then be plotted as a bar graph (in seconds?) for each lap, and it would let us know if you are getting ahead of the pace or falling back towards the pace as time goes on.

Good luck in your world record attempt!

Scott

magnustudios · 2012-03-08, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott ttocs

You could also plot a deviation from record pace as a bar graph. I would recommend comparing total time elapsed at each lap versus total time at a record pace (assume a linear pace). This difference would then be plotted as a bar graph (in seconds?) for each lap, and it would let us know if you are getting ahead of the pace or falling back towards the pace as time goes on.

Good luck in your world record attempt!

Scott

Great idea!

I added another chart, does it show what you meant? http://goo.gl/pxEXx

redwelly · 2012-03-09, 05:12 PM

I think that new graph is the one.

A figure I'd want to be told during the event is the average speed (and/or lap time this corresponds to) which you need to keep up for the remaining time to match the record. That would help show what you need to do, especially if you slip below the overall required average you can see how hard you need to work to make up. Hopefully that's not needed though!

Anyway, hope it's as awesome as the hype

Sadly I'm moving flat tomorrow so won't be watching the live results, but I look forward to hearing about a new record after!

scott ttocs · 2012-03-09, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by magnustudios

Great idea!

I added another chart, does it show what you meant? http://goo.gl/pxEXx

Yes, that graph is what I meant. I might change the units to minutes, since we are talking about six hours of riding. I would also probably change the sign of the time deviation to show how far ahead of the record pace you were riding. It is generally more pleasing to see good results in the upper right quadrant of the graph rather than the lower right.

Have a great day tomorrow! When will the results start appearing online? Will you post a link?

Scott

2012-03-01, 12:16 PM	#16
Straightarrow Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 346	Good luck. Get lots of rest before the event, stay hydrated, stay focused but have fun. "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.” ― Theodore Roosevelt __________________ "Give someone a bike and they may travel efficiently, but teach someone to unicycle and they can feed the soul for the rest of their life."

2012-03-01, 05:57 PM	#19
Harley Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 883	Best of luck to you Phil. __________________ Always remember: With patience and perseverance you can piss a hole through a rock.

2012-03-01, 08:06 PM	#20
GizmoDuck Uni Hour Record Holder 29.993km Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wellington, New Zealand/ Middle of NSW, Australia Posts: 3,407	Good luck Phil~! It's a beast of a record, particularly on an Unguni. It's been in existence for almost 25yrs, so thanks for kicking off interest in this again. There have been at least 3 or 4 attempts at this record since 1987, so hopefully this will be it! Phil is also going to be the first unicyclist to attempt a record under the new IUF World Record Guidelines. It aims to standardise records and make it reproduceable. As such, this will be even tougher than the previous record- there is no drafting allowed. All the best Phil! Ken Looi (former attemptee of the 100mile record ) __________________ Adventure Unicyclist Unitour Slideshows: SINZ: The South Island, New Zealand Unitour Induni: The India Unicycle Tour Monguni: The Mongolia Unicycle Tour

2012-03-01, 10:16 PM	#22
rob.northcott Mainly XC Muni Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Dartmoor, England Age: 44 Posts: 2,876	I like 5:10s for unicycling (I use clipless on bikes). Mine are Impact High-top which are not the lightest shoes but they're not THAT heavy - good for muni anyway, and the grip is superb. The only bad point for me is that they absorb a lot of water when it's wet (which is common here) and take ages to dry out. Perhaps for mostly road use a lighter shoe would be good - I know Tue (tujotomi on here, but he doesn't post much these days) had some light running or climbing shoes (not sure which) resoled with 5:10 rubber for Ride the Lobster. But with ten days to go, ride what you're used to! Rob __________________ "Hedgehogs - why can't they just share the hedge?" (Dan Antopolski) "I would absolutely recommend a 29er to anyone who didn't prefer a larger or small wheel." (Mikefule) Last edited by rob.northcott; 2012-03-01 at 10:17 PM.

2012-03-05, 04:14 PM	#24
unijuul Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Norway Age: 39 Posts: 121	I am impressed how fast you can spinn at so cold condition. Here in Norway I can not manage to get the fast spinn before June :-) Interesting to see the aero bar setup on your unicycle. I must try the aero bar my self this summer. Wish you good luck! __________________ www.unijuul.com

2012-03-08, 06:55 PM	#26
magnustudios while(!try()); Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Kingston Age: 22 Posts: 244	Two Days! Hello! So, on Saturday I thought it would be cool to have live progress updates on the website. My server is not a tank, so I figured hosting it on google docs and using their API made sense; at least then the data entry from the timers won't be brought down by any load spike. Here's the sheet I drew up with some fake data for now: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...ubWNXQVE#gid=0 There's a chart on the second sheet (see tabs at the bottom). I think what I did makes sense, but it would be awesome if someone on here could look it over and let me know if they see any issues that might be worth addressing in advance! On the chart sheet, I used lap speed instead of the lap time directly, and the horizontal line is the current record pace. Do you think that is the most interesting, or maybe plotting the seconds-per-lap directly would be better? Of course we'll also be using paper documentation to fulfil the new IUF record guidelines as well, this is just for the website. Everything is just about ready to rock and roll, just need to tie up some loose ends still and hope for Sunday's weather to come Saturday! __________________ @unicyclephil 100 mile record attempt

2012-03-08, 07:42 PM	#27
scott ttocs Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Irvine, CA Age: 54 Posts: 1,126	You could also plot a deviation from record pace as a bar graph. I would recommend comparing total time elapsed at each lap versus total time at a record pace (assume a linear pace). This difference would then be plotted as a bar graph (in seconds?) for each lap, and it would let us know if you are getting ahead of the pace or falling back towards the pace as time goes on. Good luck in your world record attempt! Scott

2012-03-09, 05:12 PM	#29
redwelly Sam Wakeling Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Ayr, Scotland Age: 28 Posts: 590	I think that new graph is the one. A figure I'd want to be told during the event is the average speed (and/or lap time this corresponds to) which you need to keep up for the remaining time to match the record. That would help show what you need to do, especially if you slip below the overall required average you can see how hard you need to work to make up. Hopefully that's not needed though! Anyway, hope it's as awesome as the hype Sadly I'm moving flat tomorrow so won't be watching the live results, but I look forward to hearing about a new record after! __________________ Unicycle.com

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