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Old 2011-05-16, 11:20 AM   #1
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My new 2 part Kris Holm frame



As I'm a keen hockey player I treated myself to a nice, lightweight KH20 frame. I know there have been quite a few of these fail (BROKEN kris holm longeck frame!!!; Another broken KH frame?; Broken KH frame...again, etc.) but I assumed that was all gnarly young kids jumping off buildings and doing 1080s. As a middle aged man riding riding round a sports hall I thought I'd be OK. I was just lining up to shoot when it just gave way and I ended up sprawled accross the floor. I finished the session on my 20 year old Sem. The cranks were too long, the saddle too short and its a bit rusty but it is still in one piece. Maybe they really don't make 'em like they used to . Now nursing a bruised knee, I've just rebuilt wheel from the Kris Holm into a cheap steel frame, it looks OK but not as a bling although I quite like the stealth black look. I'm pretty sure mine had no signs of cracking, in fact there was barely a mark on it as it was only used indoors, but it might be worth having a close look if you ride a similar frame.




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Old 2011-05-16, 12:48 PM   #2
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Do you know in which year your KH uni was made?
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Old 2011-05-16, 12:49 PM   #3
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dang that is BAD! have you e-mailed kris yet?
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Old 2011-05-16, 01:28 PM   #4
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That's an older frame (pre-2007?) the newer ones have a "bulge" between the crown and seatpost tube.
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Old 2011-05-16, 01:34 PM   #5
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If you only have done hockey and stuff like that, it is defenitley a design error! My KH fram has lasted really bad stuff and thers is NO problems with it. I've been riding it for about 2 years now. You gotta email Kris and tell him what happend!
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Old 2011-05-16, 01:54 PM   #6
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The crown has been changed to stop that happening, like people have mentioned. Probably worth asking if KH or UDC will replace it, or at least give you a good deal on a new one - they seem pretty good about that sort of thing.

(But don't tell them about all those 10ft drops and street tricks you've been doing in between matches )

I had a Nimbus hub fail on my muni (flanges came away from the axle) a couple of years back and just bought another one (I didn't really consider four or five years of rocky, wet, gritty muni such a bad lifetime for a £30 part). I happened to mention it to Roger some time later in conversation and he said I should have told him - he would have replaced it. If you don't ask you don't get!

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Old 2011-05-16, 02:24 PM   #7
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Before it broke how was it for hockey?
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Old 2011-05-16, 02:49 PM   #8
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If you only have done hockey and stuff like that, it is defenitley a design error!
I'd agree with that, the recent design change implies that Kris agrees, too

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have you e-mailed kris yet?
Yes, twice last week, still no reply

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Probably worth asking if KH or UDC will replace it
UDC said no, Kris hasn't replied

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It was fine. Light and stiff, just the job. Unfortunately not strong enough
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Old 2011-05-16, 02:57 PM   #9
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That's why I used to like my sun for b ball and hockey but my rim tacoed now use a shaved try-all
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Old 2011-05-16, 04:04 PM   #10
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Mine broke the same way last weekend. It was before the upgrade on the seat post tube to address the issue. Not much to say...but it is probably time for both of us to order a new frame, which has this issue fixed.

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Old 2011-05-16, 05:39 PM   #11
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Or make use of your welding skills (or a friend for nickjb)

Do you have a tig welder? Isn't that the only way of welding Al
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Or make use of your welding skills (or a friend for nickjb)

Do you have a tig welder? Isn't that the only way of welding Al
I'm pretty sure you can MIG weld aluminium with the right wire, so you don't necessarily need a TIG machine.
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Old 2011-05-17, 04:28 PM   #13
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I am considering welding it. It would really need heat treating after welding to bring it back to full strength and probably a gusset added as the metal is pretty thin. Overall it probably isn't worth it.
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I'm pretty sure you can MIG weld aluminium with the right wire, so you don't necessarily need a TIG machine.
Yeah, no TIG welder yet, but I'm searching for a used one I can afford. I do have a MIG welder; you can do aluminum with MIG, but it requires a different gun, and a different spool of wire (obviously, aluminum), and a different bottle (pure Argon instead of Argon and CO2). Hardly anyone uses MIG for Al -- it isn't worth the setup time, and the welds don't look as good as TIG can.

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The thread title makes it sound like its new :P that frame is from 2005, so maybe constant use for 6 years could do something like that to an aluminum frame.
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