Unicyclist Community

home gallery forums webmail links map donate
Go Back   Unicyclist Community > Unicycling Discussion > General Unicycling Discussions

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 2007-11-01, 04:52 PM   #1
hoshnasi
Unicyclist
 
hoshnasi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 15
Riding uni vs. biking no hands?

My Nimbus comes today, it is my first uni and tonight with be my first attempt in riding one. I ride road bikes and fixed gears bikes mostly. When riding the fixed I mostly ride no hands. Are there any similarities in riding a bike no hands and a uni? I am assume left and right control to a degree could be similar. The bikes added wheel provides tons of the forward and backward stability though.

Thanks everyone!

(If that his been covered I am sorry. I had a hard time using search terms that would yield good info.)

Last edited by hoshnasi; 2007-11-01 at 04:55 PM.
hoshnasi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2007-11-01, 04:55 PM   #2
Jerrick
King of Carnies
 
Jerrick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Spokane, WA
Age: 24
Posts: 9,744
Send a message via MSN to Jerrick
From my experience in doing both, they are completely different.

Being able to ride from point a to point b with no hands on my bike didnt help me at all, not even when I would stand up on the frame, and just fly down hill. That one is a fun trick. lol
__________________
Just bumming around MR~~~~~~~~~Team Forrest~~~~~~~~~Team Dirty Bird!~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Check out my Band.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~!Quack!~~~~Team Spencer!~~~Member of the MRIS.
Want some advice? Do better.
~Jerrick
Jerrick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2007-11-01, 05:24 PM   #3
john_childs
Guinness Mojo
 
john_childs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Portland, Oregon USA
Posts: 12,420
There is not much similarity in terms of feel or technique between riding a road bike no handed and left-right balance on a unicycle.

The closest similarity is that maintaining balance while no handed is about moving the bike under you to correct for balance. Same on a unicycle. It's all about moving the wheel to keep the wheel under you. It's not at all about moving your upper body to keep your body over the wheel. So in that sense the technique is similar but feels completely different on a bike and unicycle.

Riding a bike or unicycle is not like walking on a tightrope. On a tightrope you correct your balance by moving your upper body. On a bike and unicycle you correct your balance by moving the bike underneath you.
__________________
john_childs (att) hotmail (dott) com
Team Never Wash Your Muni
My Gallery :: Unicycling Bookmark List :: World Clock
john_childs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2007-11-01, 05:25 PM   #4
tholub
Totally Doable
 
tholub's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Berkeley, CA
Age: 45
Posts: 3,420
Being used to learning physical stuff makes it easier to learn to ride a unicycle, but the skills of riding a unicycle and riding a bike no handed are pretty much unrelated. Other than that they're both fun!
tholub is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2007-11-01, 06:26 PM   #5
phlegm
Unicyclist
 
phlegm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: East Bay, California
Age: 38
Posts: 2,505
Quote:
Originally Posted by john_childs
Riding a bike or unicycle is not like walking on a tightrope. On a tightrope you correct your balance by moving your upper body. On a bike and unicycle you correct your balance by moving the bike underneath you.
Upper body balance corrections can be helpful when doing trials unicycling.
phlegm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2007-11-01, 06:32 PM   #6
kington99
Unicyclist
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Warwickshire, UK
Age: 28
Posts: 4,786
Send a message via MSN to kington99
I've been riding uni for 6 years, I can just about ride a bike no hands in a straight line if i don't pedal. 'Nuff said.
__________________
Dave

- what a thoroughly post-modern subversion of the cycling genre -
kington99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2007-11-01, 06:37 PM   #7
thejdw
elcycinu
 
thejdw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: UK
Age: 23
Posts: 5,472
Send a message via MSN to thejdw
I could no hand a bike (not very well on the stright flat) befor unicycling and now I can go round conreners. So I would say that there is a small conection.
__________________
I didn't spell it wrong, you just read it wrong!
thejdw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2007-11-01, 07:11 PM   #8
mill_mobile
Riding for FCM - RIP
 
mill_mobile's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Hobart, Tasmania
Age: 28
Posts: 1,160
I say NO connection at all...
I cannot ride a bike with no hands for any distance at all - i have tried but just cant do it.
The whole '2 wheel should be easier' theory is WRONG!!!!! I feel its the front wheel that throws me out of balance the most, along with the thought of the handle bars out the front.
my 2 cents.
Peace.
mill_mobile is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2007-11-01, 07:18 PM   #9
john_childs
Guinness Mojo
 
john_childs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Portland, Oregon USA
Posts: 12,420
Quote:
Originally Posted by phlegm
Upper body balance corrections can be helpful when doing trials unicycling.
That's because in trials it's all about adding extra constraints to the riding. If you're doing a stillstand up on a post or riding along a rail you can when riding around in an open flat parking lot.

I will accept your correction and counter by saying that balancing on a unicycle out on the road or in the gym is about moving the wheel so the unicycle stays underneath you rather than moving your upper body to stay above the unicycle. When you start doing things like trying to ride very very slowly, do stillstands, or ride along narrow rails, then the balance gets to be about moving the upper body to stay above the wheel. That's quite a different beast and balance like that is a whole different ball game.

How's that for a serious response to a sarcastic post.
__________________
john_childs (att) hotmail (dott) com
Team Never Wash Your Muni
My Gallery :: Unicycling Bookmark List :: World Clock
john_childs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2007-11-01, 07:30 PM   #10
johnfoss
North Shore ridin'
 
johnfoss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Carmichael, CA
Posts: 15,305
It's definitely a little easier to get into unicycling if you can ride no-hands than if you can't. Consider yourself 1/360th of the way there. Only 359 other degrees of motion left!

Okay to be honest, the bike gives you two (left and right). Taken in pairs, that means you only have 179 more degrees to learn. Much better!
__________________
John Foss
"jfoss" at "unicycling.com"
www.unicycling.com

"I think God gave us two wheels for a reason." -- Bodfish
johnfoss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2007-11-01, 07:35 PM   #11
hoshnasi
Unicyclist
 
hoshnasi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 15
Thanks for the info, I'm looking forward to riding all weekend when I can sneak out of work here and there.
hoshnasi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2007-11-01, 07:35 PM   #12
hoshnasi
Unicyclist
 
hoshnasi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 15
Talking

Quote:
Originally Posted by john_childs
That's because in trials it's all about adding extra constraints to the riding. If you're doing a stillstand up on a post or riding along a rail you can when riding around in an open flat parking lot.

I will accept your correction and counter by saying that balancing on a unicycle out on the road or in the gym is about moving the wheel so the unicycle stays underneath you rather than moving your upper body to stay above the unicycle. When you start doing things like trying to ride very very slowly, do stillstands, or ride along narrow rails, then the balance gets to be about moving the upper body to stay above the wheel. That's quite a different beast and balance like that is a whole different ball game.

How's that for a serious response to a sarcastic post.
I think I have your avatar beat John
hoshnasi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2007-11-01, 08:09 PM   #13
john_childs
Guinness Mojo
 
john_childs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Portland, Oregon USA
Posts: 12,420
Quote:
Originally Posted by hoshnasi
I think I have your avatar beat John
Brilliant!

My muni is named Guinness Mojo (it's a black unicycle)

My Coker is named Espresso Mojo (it's also black)

My fixie is named Java Mojo (it's also black)

There is a pattern there.

My MTB is red and doesn't have a name.
__________________
john_childs (att) hotmail (dott) com
Team Never Wash Your Muni
My Gallery :: Unicycling Bookmark List :: World Clock
john_childs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2007-11-01, 08:16 PM   #14
martin.phillips
One Wheel Better
 
martin.phillips's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Nympsfield, Gloucestershire
Age: 59
Posts: 138
Curiously, I was thinking a similar question this morning. When I was at university many years ago, I rode a gent's upright (no sniggering at the back please), and had no problems in controlling it for miles on end no-hands. In more recent years, I bought a mountain b*ke, and can't ride it no-handed at all. In the meantime I've learnt to unicycle, which hasn't helped with no-handing the MTB.

I suspect that the ease of riding a b*cycle no-handed is very much related to the angle of the front forks, and so to the stability of the machine.

Wassail!
martin.phillips is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2007-11-01, 08:53 PM   #15
john_childs
Guinness Mojo
 
john_childs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Portland, Oregon USA
Posts: 12,420
Quote:
Originally Posted by martin.phillips
I suspect that the ease of riding a b*cycle no-handed is very much related to the angle of the front forks, and so to the stability of the machine.

Wassail!
It depends on the geometry of the bike, the angle and trail of the fork, the profile of the tires, and the condition of the bike. Some bikes are easier to ride no handed than others.

Some old bikes are trivial to ride no handed because the headset bearings have created indentations in the headset that naturally centers the front wheel. That's cheating.
__________________
john_childs (att) hotmail (dott) com
Team Never Wash Your Muni
My Gallery :: Unicycling Bookmark List :: World Clock
john_childs is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
biking, hands, riding, uni


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
New Video: Uni Geezer: me on 36er vs elite runner 1/4 mile track! MuniAddict General Unicycling Discussions 63 2007-10-25 09:22 PM
New uni pics! Coolest uni ever? jk unibikeling General Unicycling Discussions 7 2007-09-03 12:17 AM
No uni... boredem insues... unibikeling General Unicycling Discussions 6 2007-08-29 02:40 AM
Newb questions: type of uni for riding around college/beach and how to prep Narniacat General Unicycling Discussions 16 2007-07-31 01:29 PM
Riding with no seat Orphaneater General Unicycling Discussions 3 2007-07-24 04:19 AM


All times are GMT. The time now is 07:06 PM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2001-2013 Gilby
Page generated in 0.09308 seconds with 10 queries