Pot Debate'07

[GhettoSmurf]

well tommorow is 4/20 international pot smoking day.

this debate was bound to happen... and i wanted to start it.

-pro pot.

[john_childs]

Pol Pot?

[GhettoSmurf]

funny.

[john_childs]

There is a Seattle Hempfest 4/20 Benefit show on Friday. Seattle is always good for a little hemp festivity.

[burjzyntski]

At my friend's school (CU @ Boulder) they are having a huge festival with brownies and PB&J sandwiches, live bands, comedians, prizes (tshirts & sunglasses). It's being sponsored by NORML and, according to this site the security will be very lax. Marijuana is decriminalized in Colorado and the security people say that they do not condone the use of illicit drugs, but they cannot stop people from congregating. If you're caught with up to an ounce of bud you will only get a $100 fine.

Chebahut, a sandwich/sub shop, is also sponsoring the event. My friend says that everyone who works at Chebahut smokes pot; not surprising for a "stoner themed sandwich shop".


I wish I were in CO right now...


+pro pot

Info on the event:
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=2317949259

Urge Congress to Decriminalize Marijuana

Urge Congress to support Industrial Hemp

[dan de man]

most of my school will be participating in 4/20 and they dont even know.

[BillyTheMountain]

Originally Posted by burjzyntski

Marijuana is decriminalized in Colorado and the security people say that they do not condone the use of illicit drugs, but they cannot stop people from congregating. If you're caught with up to an ounce of bud you will only get a $100 fine.

See the movie GRASS, a docu narrated by Woody Harrelson. Truly educational.

Marijuana was decriminalized in about 40 states in the USA and they were working on a national decrim until one of Pres Carter's cabinet members (HEW?) got caught with cocaine, and CArter and everyone had to appear tough on drugs.

[Gilby]

When more people are in prison for nonviolent crimes such as drug possession than there are for violent crimes, I think we have a problem.

[James_Potter]

I don't smoke, but I'm totally in favor of legalization...tomorrow is Moscow's Hemp Fest, which is supposed to be about the environmentally friendly uses of hemp, and it kinda is, but it's more of just a ganja-party.

[burjzyntski]

If you join NORML today (4/20/07) it will only cost you $4.20 and you will get a pretty cool poster for free (normally a $5 value, so you essentially make $0.80).

-link to join-



poster^

[wickedbob]

4/20!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[burjzyntski]

Hemp can be used to make fabrics (rope, shirts, shorts, backpacks), cooking oil, flavorings (similar to basil), and the seeds are good for you (like sunflower seeds). One square acre of hemp can produce the same amout of paper as 6 acres of trees. Hemp grows much quicker than trees do and can be grown almost anywhere (it is a weed after all).

THC, the most active cannabinoid in marijuana, has recently been found to slow the growth of cancerous cells. Smoking anything is not good for you, but this new finding may lead to the development of some concentrated THC capsules (maybe like Marinol?) that can be taken to stimulate appetite and reduce the rate at which the cancer cells multiply.

The harmful effects of smoking can be dramatically reduced by either using a vaporizer or by eating it (see Leary Biscuits).

Marijuana relieves pain of glaucoma/cancer/HIV/MS/arthritis sufferers, stimulates their appetites, makes them feel happy, and yet it's illegal.

This reminds me of a song by Phish:

Well once upon a time in 1776,
Thomas Jefferson signed his name on a piece of marijuana,
and this document was a symbol of freedom and of liberty,
at least for the rich, white gentry.

As time marched along,
this plant that I refer to has been used for everything,
from medicine to the American flag.
And now it seems to me
that somewhere along the way,
things got messed up, yeah, messed up.

Oh marijuana.
A gift of God to my brothers and me.
Oh marijuana
Now the government wants to test me when I pee.

Well some say a conspiracy
of the petro-chemical and pulp-paper industries combined
ha to kill the compitition.
Government hysteria,monopoly and conflict of interest,
with total impunity.

Yeah, so, if you don’t buy the conspiracy,
just look at the reality
that your tax dollars go
to spray poison on the fields of a farmer in South America.
And as an added bonus,
your neighbor might be the proud recipions of that poison weed.


Oh marijuana
now the government wants to test me when I pee.
Oh marijuana
a gift of god to my brothers and me.
Oh marijuana
you cant legislate your own morality.
Oh marijuana
the government wants to test me when I pee

Reefer madness, chronic sadness,
what is the half-life of bad propaganda?
Policies fail, denied bail,
you made him a demon now pay for his trip to prison.
Hired to promote the status quo,
but what is the shelf life of bad legislation.
The hypocrite smirks, it’s a moral disgrace
as he reads from a law that was written
about the same time that he had
his last original thought.

Well the men said he was dying,
and the nausea and the pain left him wasting away
and unable to keep a meal down.
So he tried everything a prescription could obtain
but to no avail.
The side effects were worse than the pain.
So now he breaks the law
to use the one thing that seems to help him out.
And the people say, Oh he's just getting’ high.
But not to change the subject but,
didn’t you ever wonder why getting’ high’s a crime,
yeah a crime.

Oh marijuana, a gift to god to my brothers and me.
Oh marijuana, now the government wants to test me when I pee.
Oh marijuana, the government wants to test me when I pee.
Oh marijuana, the government wants to test me when I pee.
Oh marijuana, the government wants to test me when I pee.
Oh marijuana, this is the part when everyone would sing along aha, when I pee

[Gilby]

Originally Posted by burjzyntski

One square acre of hemp can produce the same amout of paper as 6 acres of trees.

How much does a rectangular acre produce?

[skrobo]

Originally Posted by Gilby

How much does a rectangular acre produce?

lol

uhm
yeah, it has good effects, but erm... it kills brain cells ... making you REtArDeD

[BillyTheMountain]

Originally Posted by Gilby

When more people are in prison for nonviolent crimes such as drug possession than there are for violent crimes, I think we have a problem.

We had the problem before that. What you see is the solution.

The problem was

--too many soldiers getting RIFfed (Reduction in Force) from military bases means:

1. How do we keep unemployment down and find jobs for these otherwise unemployable soldiers?

2. What do we do with these empty military bases?

Solution: Turn the military bases into prisons, and make the unemployed soldiers prison guards!!!

If you can think of a better solution, let me know.

Of course, that creates the problem of empty prison beds.

If you cannot fill those prison beds, you have unemployed soldiers.

Solution: Harsh federal sentencing guidelines. The US Attorney General mandates his US Attorneys (like the ones Gonzales just fired) to report any federal judge who offers downward departures from the sentencing guidelines, as an intimidation tactic. Don't the federal judges also work under the Attorney General? Hmmmm.

Prison beds filled. end of problem.

Your problem, Gilby, is that you confuse a good solution with a bad problem.