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Old 2007-03-02, 03:17 AM   #1
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geared 36er

So yeah, I always hear about geared 29ers.. what about geared 36ers.. do they exist ? if soo where can I buy one ?
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Old 2007-03-02, 03:46 AM   #2
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So yeah, I always hear about geared 29ers.. what about geared 36ers.. do they exist ? if soo where can I buy one ?
I think if you wanted one you would have to find a geared hub that would fit/work on a 36er....... I would like one as well...... but I don't have the money for one yet......
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If you ask nicely maybe they could make you a custom 36" version of the Schlumpf Geared Unicycle. Other than that. I wouldn't have a clue. Unless you know someone who make you one.

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Old 2007-03-02, 03:54 AM   #4
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Dave Stockton and I made a geared Coker (I think the first) with one of my hubs for Kris Holm. It's being passed around among several riders until Kris has room for it in his new digs. I believe Florian makes a frame for a 36" to fit his hubs. Mike Scalisi owns a geared Coker made from one of my hubs that Steve Howard modified. Pete Perron has made a few renditions of his jackshaft design in gear ratios of (approximately) 1.2, 1.6, and 1.9. Pete's design is the most flexible, I believe, in that there are many gear ratios that may be chosen from. His limitation is that it is fixed gear and the cogs must be changed to alter the ratio so no shifting during a ride. Pete's design may be available through Dave Stockton's Live Wire Unicycles.
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Old 2007-03-02, 04:19 AM   #5
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Thanks haper. So how fast are they ? Also you got any idea of how much livewire would charge me ?
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Old 2007-03-02, 04:24 AM   #6
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Thanks haper. So how fast are they ? Also you got any idea of how much livewire would charge me ?
http://www.livewireunicycles.com/Outta%20Phaze.htm
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Old 2007-03-02, 04:54 AM   #7
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Dave Stockton and I made a geared Coker (I think the first) with one of my hubs for Kris Holm. It's being passed around among several riders until Kris has room for it in his new digs. I believe Florian makes a frame for a 36" to fit his hubs. Mike Scalisi owns a geared Coker made from one of my hubs that Steve Howard modified. Pete Perron has made a few renditions of his jackshaft design in gear ratios of (approximately) 1.2, 1.6, and 1.9. Pete's design is the most flexible, I believe, in that there are many gear ratios that may be chosen from. His limitation is that it is fixed gear and the cogs must be changed to alter the ratio so no shifting during a ride. Pete's design may be available through Dave Stockton's Live Wire Unicycles.

Who currently has Der Uber Coker? I tried it once in NYC and loved it. I'd love another go on it!
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Old 2007-03-02, 05:49 AM   #8
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Alright, so you have to change the gears manually ? so When you want to change gears you have to stop? corect me if I am wrong.. Also.. no price is up on the website anyone got an idea of how much it should be ?
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Dave Stockton and I made a geared Coker (I think the first) with one of my hubs for Kris Holm.
I had an opportunity to ride that amazing beast in 2005.

I wrote about it here (if anyone cares to read a very mediocre rider's experiences with a geared Coker).

maxcarriere, Greg's Coker is a one-speed (fast). You don't shift it. I don't know anything about other geared Cokers, though.
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maxcarriere, Greg's Coker is a one-speed (fast). You don't shift it. I don't know anything about other geared Cokers, though.
It's actually shiftable in its present configuration. It requires removing a bolt and then inserting it in a different spot with a spacer. As far as I know, Ryan Atkins has it right now.

And, by the way, Dave Lowell is der Uber rider of der Uber Coker.
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Old 2007-03-02, 06:37 AM   #11
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Thanks haper. So how fast are they ? Also you got any idea of how much livewire would charge me ?
I think they're about as fast as you ride them. I think they would charge you about what they cost.
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Old 2007-03-02, 07:58 AM   #12
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Alright, so you have to change the gears manually ? so When you want to change gears you have to stop? corect me if I am wrong.. Also.. no price is up on the website anyone got an idea of how much it should be ?
Cost for a Outta Phaze style geared Coker is probably going to be expensive. If you have to ask how much it is going to be you probably can't afford it.

I don't know if U-Turn has had any interest in the geared Outta Phaze yet. Costs would likely include the design time necessary to get it designed and then there's custom machining that needs to be done to make the hub. U-Turn has the rights to the basic design but I don't know if he has a specific design already engineered.

If you do ask him, make sure you're sitting down and ready for a wallop. At worst then you'll end up pleasantly surprised if it comes in under your expectations.

A very cool unicycle though. I predict that an Outta Phaze will ultimately end up owning the hour record and the 100 mile record.

Course with the gearing ratio possibilities with the Outta Phaze design you could make it with a 29er wheel rather than the Coker wheel. Just gear it up more. You'll end up with a lighter wheel. Might be better that way for speed and endurance records.
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> maxcarriere wrote:
> > Alright, so you have to change the gears manually ? so When you want to
> > change gears you have to stop? corect me if I am wrong.. Also.. no
> > price is up on the website anyone got an idea of how much it should be
> > ?

>
> Cost for a Outta Phaze style geared Coker is probably going to be
> expensive. If you have to ask how much it is going to be you probably
> can't afford it.
>
> I don't know if U-Turn has had any interest in the geared Outta Phaze
> yet. Costs would likely include the design time necessary to get it
> designed and then there's custom machining that needs to be done to
> make the hub. U-Turn has the rights to the basic design but I don't
> know if he has a specific design already engineered.
>
> If you do ask him, make sure you're sitting down and ready for a
> wallop. At worst then you'll end up pleasantly surprised if it comes
> in under your expectations.
>
> A very cool unicycle though. I predict that an Outta Phaze will
> ultimately end up owning the hour record and the 100 mile record.
>
> Course with the gearing ratio possibilities with the Outta Phaze design
> you could make it with a 29er wheel rather than the Coker wheel. Just
> gear it up more. You'll end up with a lighter wheel. Might be better
> that way for speed and endurance records.
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Hans Fiby rode a geared (1 / 1.5 ratios) 36"er on the SINZ unitour.
It was a Schlumpf hub (are there any others?) which he bought together
with the frame and had fitted up. It was pretty quick.

See also:
http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44599
http://www.sinzuni.org/

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You can get schlumpf geared 36ers, loosemoose has one. Basically you buy the hub cranks and frame from schlumpf, then buy a rim, spokes, tyre, seat etc. and stick the lot together. Expect to pay in excess of £1k ($2k) for it though. I've ridden it quite a lot and it's a good setup, albeit tricky to change gears at speed.
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Old 2007-03-02, 10:11 AM   #15
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Hans Fiby rode a geared (1 / 1.5 ratios) 36"er on the SINZ unitour.
It was a Schlumpf hub (are there any others?) which he bought together
with the frame and had fitted up. It was pretty quick.
Yes, the Schlumpf hub in a Coker wheel would be the other option.

The two styles of geared unicycles we currently have are the Schlumpf style hub and the Outta Phaze style jackshaft gearing.

I was talking about the Outta Phaze style that LiveWire Unicycles (U-Turn) can make. Of course U-Turn could also make a geared Coker using the Schlumpf hub too.

Some info on the Outta Phaze design are here:
http://www.livewireunicycles.com/Outta%20Phaze.htm
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