True Christians Are Anti-War

[Chris.James]

gandhi was awesome, he is one of my political idols along with martin luther king (used gandhi ideals)
gandhi stood for using nonviolence to change the world around us. ever heard of the salt march? it was a protest agaisnt the british (colonial rulers at the time) and even when the police beat the protesters, they did nothing, just kept on walking

[Chris.James]

Originally Posted by musketman

Chris, you gotta believe. Read the Bible and go to church, and I bet you'd be changed forever. Seriously.

bro, i have read the bible

[James_Potter]

Originally Posted by forrestunifreak

Anyone who prefers violence over nonviolence. So, are you saying that we should ask terrorist reeeaal nicely if they would please be good and not do bad terrorist stuff? Maybe we can all just be freinds? It does not work that way, you should know that. You can't be friends with terrorists.
Okay I'll bite. What is this Gandhi method of poltics?

Gandhi was beaten nearly to death several times by the British police, because he was trying to get justice for his people. He never NEVER never once fought back. Fighting back would cause more suffering to both of them. Instead he was dragged off bloody and beaten to prison where he would meditate until he got out and could continue to work for his cause. The terrorists (in this case the British) eventually listened to what the Indians wanted and gave in.
So, Gandhi did as reeeaal nicely if they would please be good and not do bad terrorist stuff, and you know what, IT WORKED!! It worked and very few people were killed in the process. Gandhi did indeed make friends with the terrorists and now the British and the Indians get along with each other.
So if you don't know by now, Gandhi's method of politics is peaceful protests, nonviolence NO MATTER WHAT! never ever ever hurt another living being for any reason, because there is never any reason to.

[James_Potter]

Originally Posted by musketman

Chris, you gotta believe. Read the Bible and go to church, and I bet you'd be changed forever. Seriously.

You should read the Qur'an, it would change YOU forever!!

Quran 2:62 Surely, those who believe, those who are Jewish, the Christians, and the Sabians; anyone who believes in GOD, and believes in the Last Day, and leads a righteous life, will receive their recompense from their Lord. They have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve.

Tell me another religion that certainly guarantees all other faiths into Paradise!

[musketman]

Originally Posted by Chris.James

and even when the police beat the protesters, they did nothing, just kept on walking

yeah, I saw the movie.


Keep reading the Bible, and honestly ask god to show you a sign. Your thinking will change.

[forrestunifreak]

Originally Posted by James_Potter

You should read the Qur'an, it would change YOU forever!!

Quran 2:62 Surely, those who believe, those who are Jewish, the Christians, and the Sabians; anyone who believes in GOD, and believes in the Last Day, and leads a righteous life, will receive their recompense from their Lord. They have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve.

Do you just skip over the parts that tell you to kill all infidels?

[musketman]

Originally Posted by James_Potter

Gandhi was beaten nearly to death several times by the British police, because he was trying to get justice for his people. He never NEVER never once fought back. Fighting back would cause more suffering to both of them. Instead he was dragged off bloody and beaten to prison where he would meditate until he got out and could continue to work for his cause. The terrorists (in this case the British) eventually listened to what the Indians wanted and gave in.
So, Gandhi did as reeeaal nicely if they would please be good and not do bad terrorist stuff, and you know what, IT WORKED!! It worked and very few people were killed in the process. Gandhi did indeed make friends with the terrorists and now the British and the Indians get along with each other.
So if you don't know by now, Gandhi's method of politics is peaceful protests, nonviolence NO MATTER WHAT! never ever ever hurt another living being for any reason, because there is never any reason to.

Yes, but in todays case, the terrorists want America gone. That is there goal.We are the most free country, and are christian. Ghandi's method wouldn't work today. It just wouldn't. The terrorists would keep killing us untill we are all dead and America is gone.

[monkeyman]

[James_Potter]

Originally Posted by forrestunifreak

Do you just skip over the parts that tell you to kill all infidels?

I could ask you the same about the Bible.

Exodus 31:14 Ye shall keep the sabbath ... every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death.

11:4-6 And Moses said, Thus saith the LORD, About midnight will I go out into the midst of Egypt:
And all the firstborn in the land of Egypt shall die, from the first born of Pharaoh that sitteth upon his throne, even unto the firstborn of the maidservant that is behind the mill; and all the firstborn of beasts.
And there shall be a great cry throughout all the land of Egypt, such as there was none like it, nor shall be like it any more.

Deuteronomy 12:30 Take heed to thyself that thou be not snared by following them, after that they be destroyed from before thee; and that thou enquire not after their gods, saying, How did these nations serve their gods? even so will I do likewise.

[Chris.James]

tell me why these insurgents fight us.

It is the exact same reason we fight them. Why does the US have right to go in and play god? How are these so called "insurgents" any differnet the colonial patriots we have loved for almost 230 years? We are like the colonial brithish, large, powerful and way too full of ourselves. We are oppressing these people whether we like to think of it that way or not.

[musketman]

How are we oppressing these people? They are the ones who started this war on 9/11. This country is simply to good for them, and they want us dead.

[James_Potter]

Originally Posted by musketman

How are we oppressing these people? They are the ones who started this war on 9/11. This country is simply to good for them, and they want us dead.

WHOA, since when did the Iraqis start a war on 9/11?
News to me!

[musketman]

NOt really the Iraqi's but some are certainly contributing to the problem. There may be weapons over there still. We have confiscated lots of missiles, and guns and ammo from Iraq that the terrorists have used, or would have used on us.

[bungalistic]

Originally Posted by BillyTheMountain

No controversy here.

It's just that there are a few non-Christians parading as Christians (like Bush), giving all the Christians a bad name.

Christianity is a religion of peace.

Jesus' words back this up.

If thats true then what is your defence against what happened in the crusades and varying other times in history, there are plenty of times in the past where they have been anything but peaceful.
People are free to believe what they want but many wars were caused by religion and still continue to be so. Not saying thats how all religious followers practice but no one can say that one religion is better than any other and is more peaceful.

That being said its beginning to piss me off when we aren't even allowed to fly the st george cross or teach kids about our history in fear of offending others in the country.

[James_Potter]

Originally Posted by bungalistic

If thats true then what is your defence against what happened in the crusades and varying other times in history, there are plenty of times in the past where they have been anything but peaceful.
People are free to believe what they want but many wars were caused by religion and still continue to be so. Not saying thats how all religious followers practice but no one can say that one religion is better than any other and is more peaceful.

That being said its beginning to piss me off when we aren't even allowed to fly the st george cross or teach kids about our history in fear of offending others in the country.

I imagine he would say the same about the Crusades as he is saying about right now...that those who call themselves Christians then use violence against others are just hypocrites.

You can teach your own kids about your own history, it's a parents job to teach their own children what they feel is true.