True Christians Are Anti-War

BillyTheMountain · 2007-01-20, 03:38 PM

No controversy here.

It's just that there are a few non-Christians parading as Christians (like Bush), giving all the Christians a bad name.

Christianity is a religion of peace.

Jesus' words back this up.

musketman · 2007-01-20, 04:21 PM

Yes, but as Christians know, peace is only 2 fingers now. You have to go to war sometimes. We are living in hard times. War is coming!

surfer1024 · 2007-01-20, 04:47 PM

Yes you are right:
Jesus said:
43 "You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and your enemy.' 44 But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,
Matthew 5:43-44

39 But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40 And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. 41 If someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. Matthew 5:39-41

Jesus clearly states in these and other verses that Christians should not fight to advance Christianity and We should love our enemies but like Musketman said if the some one like the Muslims (their religion is not of peace) try to take over this country and the world we will have to defend our freedom to worship. Christians in Muslim and Communist countries are getting persecuted, d, beaten, imprisoned, and killed for their faith.

I challenge you non-Christians to Read the Bible for yourselves and to repent.
9 That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the , you will be saved. Romans 10:9
There is only one way to Heaven and that is through Jesus Christ (the only perfect man) who paid the Penalty for our sins by dying on the Cross.
16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16

The choice is yours, Heaven if you follow Jesus or hell for those who do not.

Surfer1024

johnfoss · 2007-01-20, 05:08 PM

Wonderful.

Billy says Christians are supposed to be pacifists, and is apparently implying that other religions aren't.

Musketman says war is coming. In Iran? North Korea?

Surfer1024 says Christianity is the only true religion and everyone else is going to hell, and that Islam is not a religion of peace (most Muslims will disagree). Also mentions how Christians get killed and persecuted in Muslim and Communist countries but doesn't mention other minorities, like Jews who probably get it worse. Our nation is not above persecution either, so if you want to throw stones, save the biggest ones for your local racists.

I will submit that true members of just about any religion are expected to live in peace. But if an invading army wants to take their homes or their land, we should not resent them from defending it.

bailingmarne · 2007-01-20, 05:10 PM

Yout don't have to be a christian to be anti-War. people who don't believe are anti-War.

James_Potter · 2007-01-20, 05:24 PM

forrestunifreak · 2007-01-20, 05:34 PM

Oh, so Jesus would rather us not stand up for what is good and right, and let inocent people be hurt? Read the bible yourself, remember when he stormed the tax collectors and money changers who were cheating the people?

And since when did you (billy) care what the bible said? Only when it says something to your advantage? Anything else you dissmiss as false?

James_Potter · 2007-01-20, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by forrestunifreak

Oh, so Jesus would rather us not stand up for what is good and right, and let inocent people be hurt? Read the bible yourself, remember when he stormed the tax collectors and money changers who were cheating the people?

Ever heard of Gandhi?
He stood up for what is good and right, he got more accomplished than George Bush ever has or probably ever will, and he never hurt a living being in his life.

forrestunifreak · 2007-01-20, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by James_Potter

Ever heard of Gandhi?
He stood up for what is good and right, he got more accomplished than George Bush ever has or probably ever will, and he never hurt a living being in his life.

Oh, so this is a bash Bush thread in disguise huh? I should have known.

musketman · 2007-01-20, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnfoss

Musketman says war is coming. In Iran? North Korea?

hahaha, I just thought Id ad that in

But yeah, probably to Iran. Iran is trying to make bombs to get rid of Isreal. So Isreal is going to defend itself. Then if Isreal starts fighting we will because they are our best ally.

And then did you hear about China? Making missiles to take out our satalites? War, War, War. We are living in the end times people. Be ready.

James_Potter · 2007-01-20, 05:49 PM

No it is not!!
If I bashed Bush in that last statement it's because I bash anyone who prefers violence over nonviolence. My last reply means that Gandhi's method of politics is far superior to what this country is doing.

James_Potter · 2007-01-20, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by musketman

hahaha, I just thought Id ad that in

But yeah, probably to Iran. Iran is trying to make bombs to get rid of Isreal. So Isreal is going to defend itself. Then if Isreal starts fighting we will because they are our best ally.
And then did you hear about China? Making missiles to take out our satalites? War, War, War. We are living in the end times people. Be ready.

Be ready for 21 December, 2012!

Chris.James · 2007-01-20, 05:53 PM

no offense to any of you, but, i find Christianity to be as bad as every other religon that has walked this earth. You speak of compassion and love, and yet you are hating on everyone different than you. You are just as bad as the muslim people that say that everyone else is going to hell.

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Originally Posted by surfer1024

There is only one way to Heaven and that is through Jesus Christ (the only perfect man) who paid the Penalty for our sins by dying on the Cross.

i am an atheist, simply cause for one, i dont believe in god (thats a pretty big one to being atheist) and that i find religon is a soul sucking endevour, where you just have to hate those different than you.

forrestunifreak · 2007-01-20, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James_Potter

No it is not!!
If I bashed Bush in that last statement it's because I bash anyone who prefers violence over nonviolence. My last reply means that Gandhi's method of politics is far superior to what this country is doing.

Anyone who prefers violence over nonviolence. So, are you saying that we should ask terrorist reeeaal nicely if they would please be good and not do bad terrorist stuff? Maybe we can all just be freinds? It does not work that way, you should know that. You can't be friends with terrorists.

Okay I'll bite. What is this Gandhi method of poltics?

musketman · 2007-01-20, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris.James

no offense to any of you, but, i find Christianity to be as bad as every other religon that has walked this earth. You speak of compassion and love, and yet you are hating on everyone different than you. You are just as bad as the muslim people that say that everyone else is going to hell.

i am an atheist, simply cause for one, i dont believe in god (thats a pretty big one to being atheist) and that i find religon is a soul sucking endevour, where you just have to hate those different than you.

Chris, you gotta believe. Read the Bible and go to church, and I bet you'd be changed forever. Seriously.

2007-01-20, 03:38 PM	#1
BillyTheMountain Happy Wal-Mart Employee Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: NYC, USA Posts: 11,565	True Christians Are Anti-War No controversy here. It's just that there are a few non-Christians parading as Christians (like Bush), giving all the Christians a bad name. Christianity is a religion of peace. Jesus' words back this up. __________________ While you and I are having our cake-and-ice-cream party, the others are having a drink-the-blood-of-the-poor party in the back room. --[QUOTE=maestro8;1433130]

2007-01-20, 04:21 PM	#2
musketman Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,529	Yes, but as Christians know, peace is only 2 fingers now. You have to go to war sometimes. We are living in hard times. War is coming! __________________ Musketman www.unicycle.com For Sale: Parachute, only used once, never opened, small stain kissing isn't what keeps me up to my elbows in placenta all day long...

2007-01-20, 04:47 PM	#3
surfer1024 Zachary Wenner Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chicago, IL Age: 21 Posts: 2,893	Yes!!!!!! Yes you are right: Jesus said: 43 "You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and your enemy.' 44 But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, Matthew 5:43-44 39 But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40 And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. 41 If someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. Matthew 5:39-41 Jesus clearly states in these and other verses that Christians should not fight to advance Christianity and We should love our enemies but like Musketman said if the some one like the Muslims (their religion is not of peace) try to take over this country and the world we will have to defend our freedom to worship. Christians in Muslim and Communist countries are getting persecuted, d, beaten, imprisoned, and killed for their faith. I challenge you non-Christians to Read the Bible for yourselves and to repent. 9 That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the , you will be saved. Romans 10:9 There is only one way to Heaven and that is through Jesus Christ (the only perfect man) who paid the Penalty for our sins by dying on the Cross. 16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16 The choice is yours, Heaven if you follow Jesus or hell for those who do not. Surfer1024 Last edited by surfer1024; 2007-01-20 at 04:48 PM.

2007-01-20, 05:08 PM	#4
johnfoss North Shore ridin' Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Carmichael, CA Posts: 14,966	Wonderful. Billy says Christians are supposed to be pacifists, and is apparently implying that other religions aren't. Musketman says war is coming. In Iran? North Korea? Surfer1024 says Christianity is the only true religion and everyone else is going to hell, and that Islam is not a religion of peace (most Muslims will disagree). Also mentions how Christians get killed and persecuted in Muslim and Communist countries but doesn't mention other minorities, like Jews who probably get it worse. Our nation is not above persecution either, so if you want to throw stones, save the biggest ones for your local racists. I will submit that true members of just about any religion are expected to live in peace. But if an invading army wants to take their homes or their land, we should not resent them from defending it. __________________ John Foss "jfoss" at "unicycling.com" www.unicycling.com "Unicycling is a way of looking at the world, making a choice to slow down, finish what you start, doing things not because they're easy, but because they're a challenge." -- Nurse Ben

2007-01-20, 05:10 PM	#5
bailingmarne Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 48	Yout don't have to be a christian to be anti-War. people who don't believe are anti-War. __________________ 1 wheel, 1000 ways to ride it

2007-01-20, 05:24 PM	#6
James_Potter Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The skinny part of Idaho Age: 24 Posts: 10,606

2007-01-20, 05:34 PM	#7
forrestunifreak is in college. and on magazines. Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Montana, USA Age: 23 Posts: 8,071	Oh, so Jesus would rather us not stand up for what is good and right, and let inocent people be hurt? Read the bible yourself, remember when he stormed the tax collectors and money changers who were cheating the people? And since when did you (billy) care what the bible said? Only when it says something to your advantage? Anything else you dissmiss as false? __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Last edited by forrestunifreak; 2007-01-20 at 05:35 PM.

2007-01-20, 05:49 PM	#11
James_Potter Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The skinny part of Idaho Age: 24 Posts: 10,606	No it is not!! If I bashed Bush in that last statement it's because I bash anyone who prefers violence over nonviolence. My last reply means that Gandhi's method of politics is far superior to what this country is doing.

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