Where Did My Spokes Go?!?!?!

maximus unius · 2006-12-10, 03:46 PM

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ivan · 2006-12-10, 03:50 PM

For a walk?

burjzyntski · 2006-12-10, 04:47 PM

Well it's not an especially high-quality camera, so it's more than likely that they just aren't visible

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What color are they, black or silver? That might explain it, too.

maximus unius · 2006-12-10, 05:28 PM

Acctualy the camera is decent, but when my sister took the picture someone bumped her hand and it turned out blurry, therefore no spokes. But, I did think it look kinda cool how half my wheel had no spokes.

johnfoss · 2006-12-11, 12:05 AM

Where did your face go?

http://www.unicycling.com/garage/invisibl.htm

Naomi · 2006-12-11, 01:44 PM

If you want a boringly logical explanation: read on.

Look at the rim. You can see that the camera shake was in a top right to lower left direction. Your spokes are black and moving, both because of wheel rotation and because there is relative movement due to camera shake. The background is far brighter, and because of the shake , no part of it remains invisible to the camera lens for the duration of the exposure. The black spokes reflect little light, so to see them at all, they must cover the lighter background for the most of the duration of the exposure. This they don't do.

All of the background behind those spokes has managed to contribute significantly to the exposure, overriding the spokes contribution to the image.

A quarter turn further round, the spokes are in line with the camera shake, and so their black colour can still "shadow" out the background.

Looking again, much of the apparent camera shake could actually be movement of the unicycle. The same principles apply though.

Nao

brendan · 2006-12-11, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burjzyntski

so it's more than likely that they just aren't visible

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No shit really?

lol thats a cool picture, and john those pictures of you are really cool

and i'm thinking you might have been idling very stabely and your brother had a quite slow shutter release time.... i might be a mile off but ehehe.

johnfoss · 2006-12-11, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brendan

i'm thinking you might have been idling very stabely and your brother had a quite slow shutter release time.... i might be a mile off but ehehe.

Right you are. Camera on tripod, exposure of several seconds, only light source is the floodlight on the side of the house. In the one picture, with the light behind me, all side-to-side movement tends to make me skinnier as the light shines around me on either side. In some of the longer exposure shots, my head is a mere sliver or gone completely!

In the other picture, with the light "painting" me, the more I moved side-to-side the fatter I got. You can see a few stray reflections off my Miyata's frame, but the rest of the unicycle is too blurred out to show.

Done on purpose, you could probably do a much better example of an invisible unicycle. Those were done on a cold night in 1981, on film so we didn't see the results until days later. With digital it's a lot easier to experiment...

brendan · 2006-12-11, 06:35 PM

yeah digital is so much easier to experiment with...

I got a nikkon D70 and i've messed around with it alot and its just so much easier than a normal camera.

but ur shots are still cool, i'm glad i got it right

i read an entire book on photographing techniques about a year ago when i got the camera

Most of them were kinda out of date with digital cameras but its still nice to know

burjzyntski · 2006-12-11, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brendan

No shit really?

lol thats a cool picture, and john those pictures of you are really cool

and i'm thinking you might have been idling very stabely and your brother had a quite slow shutter release time.... i might be a mile off but ehehe.

asshole.

thejdw · 2006-12-11, 09:26 PM

I can see them just

monkeyman · 2006-12-12, 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brendan

No shit really?

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brendan · 2006-12-12, 09:39 AM

jeez dont be so fussy, i was joking myself, it wasnt meant as an insult. And i had noticed the sarcastic thing :P

Chill out, the post was a joke, stupid question "where are my spokes one" is asking for a stupid answer

2006-12-10, 03:46 PM	#1
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2006-12-10, 03:50 PM	#2
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2006-12-10, 04:47 PM	#3
burjzyntski be norml Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hobe Sound, Florida (HSL) Age: 24 Posts: 1,731	Well it's not an especially high-quality camera, so it's more than likely that they just aren't visible . What color are they, black or silver? That might explain it, too. __________________ It's no good being Polish unless you prove it once a day. "Every silver lining's got a touch of gray." -Nude & Proud-

2006-12-10, 05:28 PM	#4
maximus unius Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,419	Acctualy the camera is decent, but when my sister took the picture someone bumped her hand and it turned out blurry, therefore no spokes. But, I did think it look kinda cool how half my wheel had no spokes. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUKySpQh2qU

2006-12-11, 12:05 AM	#5
johnfoss North Shore ridin' Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Carmichael, CA Posts: 14,928	Where did your face go? http://www.unicycling.com/garage/invisibl.htm __________________ John Foss "jfoss" at "unicycling.com" www.unicycling.com "Unicycling is a way of looking at the world, making a choice to slow down, finish what you start, doing things not because they're easy, but because they're a challenge." -- Nurse Ben

2006-12-11, 01:44 PM	#6
Naomi Stupid Asian tart riding that thing Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Posts: 1,145	If you want a boringly logical explanation: read on. Look at the rim. You can see that the camera shake was in a top right to lower left direction. Your spokes are black and moving, both because of wheel rotation and because there is relative movement due to camera shake. The background is far brighter, and because of the shake , no part of it remains invisible to the camera lens for the duration of the exposure. The black spokes reflect little light, so to see them at all, they must cover the lighter background for the most of the duration of the exposure. This they don't do. All of the background behind those spokes has managed to contribute significantly to the exposure, overriding the spokes contribution to the image. A quarter turn further round, the spokes are in line with the camera shake, and so their black colour can still "shadow" out the background. Looking again, much of the apparent camera shake could actually be movement of the unicycle. The same principles apply though. Nao __________________ The dress in which I unicycled was not THAT short, but in retrospect, I think that maybe the blue one would have been more appropriate to the terrain. Last edited by Naomi; 2006-12-11 at 01:47 PM.

2006-12-11, 06:35 PM	#9
brendan Unicycling = trials Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: UK - Cambridge/Canterbury Age: 23 Posts: 2,184	yeah digital is so much easier to experiment with... I got a nikkon D70 and i've messed around with it alot and its just so much easier than a normal camera. but ur shots are still cool, i'm glad i got it right i read an entire book on photographing techniques about a year ago when i got the camera Most of them were kinda out of date with digital cameras but its still nice to know

2006-12-11, 09:26 PM	#11
thejdw elcycinu Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: UK Age: 23 Posts: 5,472	I can see them just __________________ I didn't spell it wrong, you just read it wrong!

2006-12-12, 09:39 AM	#13
brendan Unicycling = trials Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: UK - Cambridge/Canterbury Age: 23 Posts: 2,184	jeez dont be so fussy, i was joking myself, it wasnt meant as an insult. And i had noticed the sarcastic thing :P Chill out, the post was a joke, stupid question "where are my spokes one" is asking for a stupid answer

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