A Question for Vegans

BluntRM · 2006-11-13, 03:23 AM

Here it is:

Fossil fuel is derived from an animal substance. Is it "vegan" to use these products?

zfreak220 · 2006-11-13, 03:23 AM

that is a good question...we should see an increase in vegan unicyclists soon.

Goats_On_Unicycles · 2006-11-13, 03:28 AM

Hmmmmmm... I don't know. I'm not a "real" vegan. I just don't eat meat or use animal products that come from factory farms or other horrible places like that. But considering that a whole lotta vegans consider honey farming exploiting bees...

BluntRM · 2006-11-13, 03:32 AM

Does it matter that they're already extinct?

BluntRM · 2006-11-13, 03:37 AM

What would Alec Baldwin say.....?

Goats_On_Unicycles · 2006-11-13, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by BluntRM

Does it matter that they're already extinct?

I dunno... The only problem I have with it is the harm that fossil fuels do to living things.

James_Potter · 2006-11-13, 03:50 AM

Thats interesting, I donno. I'm vegetarian and would be vegan if, you know, pretty much EVERYTHING didn't have some sort of dairy in it.
Anyway, I don't think that fossil fuels count, because it has nothing to do with cruelty to animals...you're not exploiting animal rights by using it. So no animals are being harmed.
That's my take on it.

BluntRM · 2006-11-13, 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by James_Potter

Thats interesting, I donno. I'm vegetarian and would be vegan if, you know, pretty much EVERYTHING didn't have some sort of dairy in it.
Anyway, I don't think that fossil fuels count, because it has nothing to do with cruelty to animals...you're not exploiting animal rights by using it. So no animals are being harmed.
That's my take on it.

So you're giving me a definition of veganism based on animal cruelty and exploitation: Is it possible to retrieve any other animal products that meet that criteria, besides fossil fuels?

*I'm also a vegetarian, but I think veganism can be outlandish.

Goats_On_Unicycles · 2006-11-13, 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BluntRM

So you're giving me a definition of veganism based on animal cruelty and exploitation: Is it possible to retrieve any other animal products that meet that criteria, besides fossil fuels?

*I'm also a vegetarian, but I think veganism can be outlandish.

I would say...... Yes. But if a cow dies and you don't really know what it died of you prolly wouldn't think "Oh, yummy!"...

Catboy · 2006-11-13, 06:46 AM

You aren't eating it, so it's still vegan.

I'm a level-5 vegan, I don't eat anything with a shadow...

tobbogonist · 2006-11-13, 06:49 AM

i tried being a vegan for about 1 month, i got hungry.

i am vegeterian when it is possible but my parents dont really support it.
i do enjoy the odd sausage though. God am i that bad a person??

ivan · 2006-11-13, 06:52 AM

I was a vegetarian for a whole year. Then stopped.

toddw9 · 2006-11-13, 08:14 AM

I met a guy who was a vegan just because he preferred the diet. No other reason. Had nothing to do with animal cruelty or anything like that.

kington99 · 2006-11-13, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Catboy

You aren't eating it, so it's still vegan.

I'm a level-5 vegan, I don't eat anything with a shadow...

So can vegans wear leather shoes and a nice fur coat? I don't think that's how most vegans see it.

Thanks for the quote Jessy Grass.

JJuggle · 2006-11-13, 04:36 PM

Given the nature of the ecosystem isn't all food likely to be dependent on an animal product, either through the death of an animal and it's reabsorption into the earth or the direct use of animal waste which likely implies animal exploitation, for fertilizer.

I'm a vegetarian. I know that the fact that I'm not a vegan means I am supporting the exploitation of animals to a greater extent than if I were; and believe me I hear it everyday from my kid who wont eat honey, by the way.

2006-11-13, 03:23 AM	#1
BluntRM The Technology Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,169	A Question for Vegans Here it is: Fossil fuel is derived from an animal substance. Is it "vegan" to use these products?

2006-11-13, 03:28 AM	#3
Goats_On_Unicycles Nice kids don't drop acid Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tum Tum, Washington Age: 21 Posts: 4,693	Hmmmmmm... I don't know. I'm not a "real" vegan. I just don't eat meat or use animal products that come from factory farms or other horrible places like that. But considering that a whole lotta vegans consider honey farming exploiting bees... __________________ If Jackie was a girl, I thinkd id date her. ~Jerrick If my government ever decides to blow me up, I hope they will choose to do it in a humane way also. ~johnfoss hinunggbinu!!! ~JJtheunicycle

2006-11-13, 06:46 AM	#10
Catboy Roadkill Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Scattered across the freeway. Age: 23 Posts: 4,190	You aren't eating it, so it's still vegan. I'm a level-5 vegan, I don't eat anything with a shadow... __________________ Rest in pieces.

2006-11-13, 06:49 AM	#11
tobbogonist Patronus unicycleus Join Date: May 2006 Location: Melbourne Age: 24 Posts: 4,111	i tried being a vegan for about 1 month, i got hungry. i am vegeterian when it is possible but my parents dont really support it. i do enjoy the odd sausage though. God am i that bad a person?? __________________ Your life is a storm, thunder is your music and lightning is your electric dancing legs, groove on friends. Groove on. Last edited by tobbogonist; 2006-11-13 at 06:50 AM.

2006-11-13, 06:52 AM	#12
ivan Non-Danish Girl Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Prague, Czech Republic Age: 25 Posts: 7,210	I was a vegetarian for a whole year. Then stopped. __________________ Did you know that lighter flame smells like burnt nose hair? Entropy isn't what it used to be.

2006-11-13, 03:23 AM	#2
zfreak220 Polska Możność Join Date: Apr 2006 Age: 21 Posts: 1,706	that is a good question...we should see an increase in vegan unicyclists soon.

2006-11-13, 03:32 AM	#4
BluntRM The Technology Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,169	Does it matter that they're already extinct?

2006-11-13, 03:37 AM	#5
BluntRM The Technology Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,169	What would Alec Baldwin say.....?

2006-11-13, 03:50 AM	#7
James_Potter Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The skinny part of Idaho Age: 24 Posts: 10,606	Thats interesting, I donno. I'm vegetarian and would be vegan if, you know, pretty much EVERYTHING didn't have some sort of dairy in it. Anyway, I don't think that fossil fuels count, because it has nothing to do with cruelty to animals...you're not exploiting animal rights by using it. So no animals are being harmed. That's my take on it.

2006-11-13, 08:14 AM	#13
toddw9 MRIS member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Lethbridge, AB, Canada Age: 29 Posts: 1,167	I met a guy who was a vegan just because he preferred the diet. No other reason. Had nothing to do with animal cruelty or anything like that. __________________ Todd

2006-11-13, 04:36 PM	#15
JJuggle Last of the Dogmato-Revisionists Join Date: May 2001 Location: Matawan, NJ, USA Age: 52 Posts: 8,094	Given the nature of the ecosystem isn't all food likely to be dependent on an animal product, either through the death of an animal and it's reabsorption into the earth or the direct use of animal waste which likely implies animal exploitation, for fertilizer. I'm a vegetarian. I know that the fact that I'm not a vegan means I am supporting the exploitation of animals to a greater extent than if I were; and believe me I hear it everyday from my kid who wont eat honey, by the way. __________________ Raphael Lasar To plotz is human, to schvitz divine.

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