LM Rim cost?

[onetrack]

Originally Posted by vivalargo

Is the XC available in a 24"?? I have one of the first LM 24s and I assume it's a DH.

JL

The xc only comes in 26".

[vivalargo]

Originally Posted by onetrack

The xc only comes in 26".

That's weird. I read Surley saying the XC was made specifically for Munis, and who rides a 26 incher??

JL

[SurlyDave]

Originally Posted by vivalargo

That's weird. I read Surley saying the XC was made specifically for Munis, and who rides a 26 incher??

Where did you read that? Who's Surley?

[vivalargo]

Originally Posted by SurlyDave

Where did you read that? Who's Surley?

"Surley" is a typo. And where did I read what? That hardly anyone I ever ride with is on a 26 inch Muni?

IME, the ratio of 24 to 26 inch munis favors the 24 perhaps by 10 to 1, if not more. At the last Cal. Muni Weekend I'm not sure if I saw a single 26 incher in the whole group.

My only point is that the commercial market for a 24 inch Muni rim is likely much deeper than it is for a 26 incher. If you made a lighter version of the 24 I know most of the Santa Barbara Muni club would buy one in a flash.

JL

[trials_uni]

Im with John on the 24" vs 26" debate...Ive ridden a 26 a few times and its just to beasty for me. I like the 24".

[SurlyDave]

Originally Posted by vivalargo

"Surley" is a typo. And where did I read what?

Where did you read that the XC rim was intended for muni? I wrote "The 36-hole XC rim was produced with unicyclists in mind." I mentioned nothing of muni, specifically.

Is it a muni if it's equipped with a Maxxis Hookworm 2.5 and used as an all-season commuter? That's a topic for another thread, I guess.

I understand what you're saying....just having a little fun at your expense. Didn't mean to confuse the issue.

The reason we don't have a 24" XC is because we have to make DH and XC rims at the same time. And, I have enough 24" DH rims in stock to last a while. When the 36-hole 24" DH rims need to be reordered, I'll order XC rims at the same time. I have to consider production minimums and warehouse availibility when I place orders for Large Marge rims. As you can imagine, they take up a lot of space.

The 26" 36-hole XC rims were produced because I had to place an order for 26" 36-hole DH rims anyway. It was just a matter of timing.

[SurlyDave]

Let me add....

Don't hold out for the 24" XC version if you want a 24" Large Marge. You'll miss a lot of great riding if you do so. As I mentioned before...the XC version saves 100 grams over the DH version. Yeah, it's rotating mass, and that's generally the best area to lighten your ride. But, it's not going to make that much of a difference in reality. Don't dwell on it too much.

[Loosemoose]

Originally Posted by trials_uni

Im with John on the 24" vs 26" debate...Ive ridden a 26 a few times and its just to beasty for me. I like the 24".

This is a daft debate, there are times when a 26" favours a 24" and vice versa. At Unicon 13 the Extreme DH was so tough I would only have favoured a 26" for its rock clambering and its ability to smooth out the really rough terrain. But some people did exceptionally well on 24" munis. I personally ride a 26" LM with a 3" Gazz and was blasting stuff at speed and getting grip where the 24s were having real trouble. Despite Jeff Groves being considerably more skilled than me, my 26" allowed me to keep up with his 24" comfortably on the way back down the mountain in very tricky terrain.

You pays your money, you takes your choice, my 26" LM will never be replaced as my monster Muni, I can do all I could on a 24" and more.

Loose.

P.S. To keep on topic: If you are considering getting a LM, its worth it, just make sure you can get a frame that a) allows brakes to be mounted on its wider profile and b) has the clearance for an Endomorph tyre. Even if you use a 3" tyre, the extra clearance is a godsend on wet claggy mud and clay, and you've always got the chance to upgrade.

[Dirtsurfer]

I bought my LM when they first came out. I went with the DH version because of the problems I had with the air pressure eventually blowing out the tubeless strapping tape on the Try-all rim (also drilled out). The only complaint I have is that it's pinned and not welded. It takes extra latex to seal the pinned joint. Definately worth the money, though.

[vivalargo]

[QUOTE=SurlyDave]Where did you read that the XC rim was intended for muni? I wrote "The 36-hole XC rim was produced with unicyclists in mind." I mentioned nothing of muni, specifically."

I'm afraid it goes without saying, "specifically," that a 65mm wide rim is only useful for Muni, the width and stability being totally needless for any manner of commuter unis. I can't help but tease you on that point--but an LM on a commuter is like a D9 tractor tire on a Harley Duoglide. It might work, but who but a quentessential dork would ever drive it.

I'm always looking to lighten my Muni, that's why I asked about the 24 drilled article. As mentioned, I bought one of the first LM rims and am quite happy with it and have, by and large, converted all the guys at SBMC over the the LM. So the product rocks, especially on the rocks.

JL

[The Bruiser]

does that DH rim fit on a DX?

[SurlyDave]

Originally Posted by vivalargo

It might work, but who but a quentessential dork would ever drive it.

That's quintessential. I'm a quintessential dork.

Up here in the northland, where we have winter with snow and ice, a tire with a wide (but not necessarily aggressive) tread-coupled with an appropriately wide rim-can be a good thing on a commuter. I regularly rode my Conundrum, equpped with a 26" Marge, last winter when the roads were completely covered with snow and ice. Some days it might have been overkill, but I've never regretted having a little safety net in the form of more tire footprint and better traction. People commute on whatever works for them. In Santa Barbara, you may have no need for a LM commuter. But some folks commute (or have the potential to commute) on gravel roads, dirt paths, and icy pavement. For them, it might make sense.

Different strokes for different folks.

Thanks for rockin' the Large Marge and spreading the good word in Santa Barbara.

[trials_uni]

So, will a 24" Marge rim and a 3" tire fit a 24" frame rim or would i have to go the 26" frame route?

[entropy]

Originally Posted by trials_uni

So, will a 24" Marge rim and a 3" tire fit a 24" frame rim or would i have to go the 26" frame route?

Large Marge 24" + Duro Wildlife fits no problemo in the current KH 24" frames. I haven't tried with a Gazz.

[trials_uni]

Id be running a Gazz If anything...Ill email Darren...he would kno.