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Old 2006-03-06, 06:52 PM   #46
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You've made that joke before, and it still misses the point. We all know that the gun is always used be a person - the problem is that the presence of the gun gives that person a quick, clean, easy option that they would not otherwise have.
While we're repeating quotes, I quite like the Eddy Izzard one " 'Guns don't kill people, people kill people.' Yeah, but I think guns help."

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We should outlaw unicycles, because it you hit someone with it hard enough, you can kill them
We should also otulaw nuclear power....it can be dangerous
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Old 2006-03-06, 06:54 PM   #47
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Old 2006-03-06, 07:12 PM   #48
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We should also otulaw nuclear power....it can be dangerous
Not if you keep the nuclear-generated electricity separate from regular electricity. You know that nuclar' stuff causes cancer when it comes out from the recepticles in the house. So I contacted my local electrical company and asked them to only send regular electricity to my house. I feel much safer that way.
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Old 2006-03-06, 07:41 PM   #49
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You've made that joke before, and it still misses the point. We all know that the gun is always used be a person - the problem is that the presence of the gun gives that person a quick, clean, easy option that they would not otherwise have.
While we're repeating quotes, I quite like the Eddy Izzard one " 'Guns don't kill people, people kill people.' Yeah, but I think guns help."

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Yeah, they do help. Mine have provided me with diagrams and instructions on how to kill or maim. They're a big help around the house when it comes to chores, too. I actually complain too much about them. I should be more balanced.
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Old 2006-03-06, 08:55 PM   #50
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Get two victims and two Killers

Give one killer a Gun and the other a spoon.

each one picks there victim

Count how long each one takes to kill there victim.
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Old 2006-03-06, 09:23 PM   #51
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We should outlaw unicycles, because it you hit someone with it hard enough, you can kill them
We should also otulaw nuclear power....it can be dangerous
But I doubt anyone has ever been killed by a mis-used unicycle, and the basic principle involves having fun without killing things. Nuclear power (like it or not) provides electricity which allows me to use this computer, avoid walking into the walls of my house when it's dark, and is generally handy. About 3000 people die in car crashes every year in this country. However they are alos a very useful form of transport. As far as I know no-one has seriously suggested banning cars, but there are legal requirements like seatbelts, a yearly safety cheque, speed limits etc.

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Yeah, they do help. Mine have provided me with diagrams and instructions on how to kill or maim. They're a big help around the house when it comes to chores, too. I actually complain too much about them. I should be more balanced.
You're obviously a clever person, so I'll just assume that was posted as a cunning piece of irony, rather than further stretching a bad joke. In reply, I'll second Fly04066814s post.

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Old 2006-03-06, 10:14 PM   #52
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Get two victims and two Killers

Give one killer a Gun and the other a spoon.

each one picks there victim

Count how long each one takes to kill there victim.

thast sick... a spoon
good point though
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thast sick... a spoon
good point though
I believe that's the problem...spoons don't have points.
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Get two victims and two Killers

Give one killer a Gun and the other a spoon.

each one picks there victim

Count how long each one takes to kill there victim.
get two victims and two killers

give each victim a gun, and each killer a gun

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War on a really small scale?
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Old 2006-03-06, 11:23 PM   #56
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and also 1/10 the population
doesn't really matter, they have a fraction of the murders per capita.
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Old 2006-03-06, 11:32 PM   #57
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War on a really small scale?
you could say that, but the point is, guns can be used as self defence as well as to attack. and there will always be guns to kill people, whether we like it or not, so it is best to keep guns completely legal. if a woman turns a gun on her attacker, he's not going to try anything else.
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You're obviously a clever person, so I'll just assume that was posted as a cunning piece of irony, rather than further stretching a bad joke.
Wrong on two counts. I am not clever. That was further stretching a good joke.

I think I'll second JP's post where you give both the killers and the (potential) victims guns. I think this is the idea of the "equalizer" which is loosely thrown about. The other way to look at it is by changing the characteristics of the potential killers and victims. There's a 300 lb. linebacker gone haywire and he intends to rape and kill a 100 lb. woman armed with pepper spray (yum) in an enclosed parking lot. Who wins? Now give them both .45 caliber pistols and give the woman range training. A 300 lb. linebacker suddenly becomes a big target to a skilled shooter.

The bullet that saves her life is going to be worth more than $5000.

I remember wearing a T-Shirt to work with the name and logo of a gun shop that I frequented. One of the faculty said that there are some neighborhoods (especially in the Supreme Soviet of Washington) where I could walk around with that shirt on and people would be really offended. I asked him what I could possibly be worried about in a neighborhood like that; I would be the only one armed.

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Old 2006-03-07, 12:08 AM   #60
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get two victims and two killers

give each victim a gun, and each killer a gun

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ther ya go! That'll make it even...how it should be. And im not saying killers should have guns, but u dont know who is a killer untill they show u.

Everyone has the right to have guns untill they prove they cant handle a weapon and kill someone.
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