Juggling Thread - Page 54

unirox13 · 2011-07-29, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skilewis74

I had that book for balls, but I loaned it to a much better juggler friend. He moved and forgot to give it back and I have no way of contacting him (I don't think it was intentional).

If I member correctly it had no rankings of difficulties, although I think it did have suggestions of what to learn first and after. I'll prob get it and the club version again (and require collateral if I loan stuff out again).

Is there a video anyone strongly recomends? I was thinking about "Jason Garfield's Theory and Practice of Juggling"

That's a good video if you want to learn stuff like siteswaps and spins. His tutorial in that video on how to spin is really awesome and helped me a lot in learning 3up 360's. I've never been a huge fan of siteswaps, but his tutorials and things on that are also very informative.

unipeace101 · 2011-08-05, 04:12 AM

i can juggle and unicycle
i like to juggle clubs on my 6ft uni. but i just can't do a backflip

GILD · 2011-08-05, 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skilewis74

I had that book for balls, but I loaned it to a much better juggler friend. He moved and forgot to give it back and I have no way of contacting him

FaceBook?

Quote:

Originally Posted by unipeace101

i can juggle and unicycle
i like to juggle clubs on my 6ft uni. but i just can't do a backflip

By back-flip do you mean on the uni or do you mean throwing the club behind your back?
Also known as a "back-cross"?

Send word.

hydrophidian · 2011-09-16, 09:57 PM

My newest bounce juggling video.

http://youtu.be/lUwI8hRM4Ts

Enjoy.

-Rico

steveyo · 2011-09-17, 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hydrophidian

My newest bounce juggling video.

http://youtu.be/lUwI8hRM4Ts

Enjoy.

-Rico

Sweet!

Praestigiator · 2011-09-20, 11:11 PM

Second steveyo on hydrophidian, great performance!
I love watching bounce juggling, but only at the very beginning myself. . .

unirox13 · 2011-09-29, 01:28 AM

Hey jugglers, just posted some stuff for sale http://unicyclist.com/forums/showthr...12#post1481612

skilewis74 · 2011-10-21, 07:14 AM

I can now do the 4 ball fountain for ~25 throws and I can do Mills Mess as long as I want.

A week ago I figured out how to do a couple of cycles of the Box, now I can do ~ 20.

I've thought it'd be cool to do the 4 ball pattern 552 but I've never been able to do even one flash, so I omited the fourth ball. The pattern I was able to work out in the kingscascade simulator is 7077000, w/ the throws per second set to 6. Now I can do the occational flash starting on either side from cascade and back several times.

skilewis74 · 2012-03-17, 08:43 AM

How are you jugglers doing?

I can now do the fountain ~ 20 -30 throws consistently and a PB of ~ 50. 2/1 anosynchrous w/ 3 balls helps
(4440, 4404 in the calculator)

A variation of Mill's Mess I figured is clawing the ball that goes back and forth underneath to the outsides.

Boston Mess was tricky at first but I got it after a while. I can also claw the two ouside balls on this but only occationally.
This vid helped. I especially like how he freezes one ball in the air (by hanging it from his ceiling fan) while he explains and shows whats going on. His other tutorials (42 so far) are also much easier for me to understand than most (but usually above my skill to seriously attempt).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klfMQs0rLos&feature...

AngryGumball · 2012-03-20, 04:46 AM

I've been attempting juggling 3 balls but fail miserably... I have the idea down, as in the motions but it's a matter of executing it. In this sense, last year, I bought a diabolo (which to my understanding it's a form of juggling) that I can do a few things on.

And slightly related, I do yoyo, am pretty decent at it as yoyoing was a huge part of my childhood (good old Duncan Imperials and Butterflies...then Yomegas came into the scene with their transaxles and bearings).

skilewis74 · 2012-03-22, 06:44 AM

I recomend people start w/ the 2 ball shower, then build up speed till it seems lie at least 1 ball is always in the air. Learn the other side as well then switch sides w/o a pause. I liked to do it in 5's: 5L, 5R, 5L, etc. Work your way up to 60 total. This is not the technique you use in the cascade, but it builds your accuracy, consistency, speed and it feels kind of like juggling making it more fun. Every vid I've seen recomends to not do this.

3 ball shower

I like the been bags I make myself. 1/3 cup in a 12" party balloon tie a not on the end, chop off the extra. Repeat two more times.

Then start on the cascade w/ two balls. Do RL, RL, etc for ~ 30 times then reapeat starting w/ the left.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqF0oRNJFys

onewheeldave · 2012-03-22, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skilewis74

I recomend people start w/ the 2 ball shower, then build up speed till it seems lie at least 1 ball is always in the air. Learn the other side as well then switch sides w/o a pause. I liked to do it in 5's: 5L, 5R, 5L, etc. Work your way up to 60 total. This is not the technique you use in the cascade, but it builds your accuracy, consistency, speed and it feels kind of like juggling making it more fun. Every vid I've seen recomends to not do this.

With, IMO, good reason

I run juggling workshops and pretty much the first thing I stress during the initial demo, is that the '2 ball shower' pattern is not only not a juggling pattern, and, not useful for learning to juggle, but, is actually counter-productive.

The number of people I've seen at workshops who say- "I can do 2, but not 3...." is in the thousands- all having aquired the 2ball shower habit, which has then totally crippled their chances of learning to juggle- until they encounter someone who explains to them that, 'no, you're not uncoordinated or useless, you've just learnt the wrong way to do to'.

You see, once someone's spent time on the 2ball shower and developed that 'zipping' motion on the bottom ball, it totally messes with their ability to do the 2 ball cascade pattern.

There are cures for it- I use a technique which involves deliberately not catching the balls, and then gradually building up to the proper 2 ball cascade pattern, but, in my experience, the single biggest reason some people can't juggle is because they have had the misfortune to have 'learnt' the 2 ball shower.

Just out of interest, what's your success rate for teaching people to juggle using the 2 ball shower pattern?

If it's not 100%, I really would suggest re-assesing the method, cos, those who walk away unable to juggle, are pretty much doomed to remain that way unless they are lucky enough to encounter someone who can 'de-program' them out of the zipping habit.

skilewis74 · 2012-03-23, 05:09 AM

Theoretically it makes sense to practice the technique closest to what you want to do and it would take less time. It did take me a while to get myself to consistenly throw both balls to the same hight and at first I was shuffling one of the balls instead of throwing it like I wanted.

For me when I tried the 2 ball cascade, I was throwing balls accross the room and dealing w/ that much failure was depressing. The same has been true when learning most tricks I usually have to figure out a middle step from what I've been shown w/ two or even one ball.

Kids, say under 12, in my experience would usually need to start w/ the shower if any chance they will stick w/ it, considering the lower hand-eye coordination little kids have, and how easily distracted/discouraged they can be, w/o having some relatively quick success or regular incouragement. I make a point that it's not juggling yet but it'll help and I then show them the technique for the cascade w/ two balls. I always show someone the whole process w/ them trying each bit w/in 5 min.

Older kids and adults, it usually seems like it's 50/50 who could start directly w/ the cascade or who is uncoordinated like I was. I always start w/ the shower so even if the person who is interested in learning is very uncoordinated, or a friend they later teach is, they have a process they can practice that'll get them to the cascade.

Also, I find being very comfortable w/ a variety of patterns makes it easier to recover from mistakes and learn new tricks.

unirox13 · 2012-07-23, 10:58 PM

Figured I'd share my review of the soon to be released 32-Panel Tossaballs from www.flyingclipper.com

I had a ton of fun making this review and these beanbags are absolutely incredible.

32- Panel Tossaball Review - YouTube

unirox13 · 2012-08-23, 09:44 PM

Bump and some new info!

The balls from the above review are now available at www.flyingclipper.com

Head over there and check out the Tossaball Phat Tyre 32 juggling balls!

http://www.flyingclipper.com/home/fl...ggle_ball.html

2011-08-05, 04:12 AM	#797
unipeace101 xtreame unicyclist Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 12	juggle i can juggle and unicycle i like to juggle clubs on my 6ft uni. but i just can't do a backflip __________________ “People do not decide to become extraordinary. They decide to accomplish extraordinary things.” Sir Edmund Hillary

2011-09-16, 09:57 PM	#799
hydrophidian Unicron Join Date: May 2008 Location: Bartlesville, Oklahoma Age: 35 Posts: 193	My newest bounce juggling video. http://youtu.be/lUwI8hRM4Ts Enjoy. -Rico __________________ www.myspace.com/hydrophidianband Last edited by hydrophidian; 2011-09-16 at 09:58 PM.

2011-09-20, 11:11 PM	#801
Praestigiator Firstborn of Kerv Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Belchertown, MA Age: 18 Posts: 21	Second steveyo on hydrophidian, great performance! I love watching bounce juggling, but only at the very beginning myself. . . __________________ Pilas et fustes per aero iacio quod praestigiator sum. (Latin-English: I throw balls and clubs through the air because I am a juggler.)

2011-09-29, 01:28 AM	#802
unirox13 Unicycling Ninja! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 24 Posts: 536	Hey jugglers, just posted some stuff for sale http://unicyclist.com/forums/showthr...12#post1481612 __________________ The World is on fire, are you the smoke, or the flames?

2011-10-21, 07:14 AM	#803
skilewis74 Stupidity gets you 2 of these: Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Santa Rosa, Ca. Age: 38 Posts: 3,825	I can now do the 4 ball fountain for ~25 throws and I can do Mills Mess as long as I want. A week ago I figured out how to do a couple of cycles of the Box, now I can do ~ 20. I've thought it'd be cool to do the 4 ball pattern 552 but I've never been able to do even one flash, so I omited the fourth ball. The pattern I was able to work out in the kingscascade simulator is 7077000, w/ the throws per second set to 6. Now I can do the occational flash starting on either side from cascade and back several times. __________________ Ride everywhere and never just ride anywhere. If you can ride where you are going within a hour, do it, and if you can do a trick 50-75% of the time do it along the way.- Bob Burnquist What's next? Learn2Ride&doTricks TrialsClasses&Building

2012-03-20, 04:46 AM	#805
AngryGumball Registered User Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 128	I've been attempting juggling 3 balls but fail miserably... I have the idea down, as in the motions but it's a matter of executing it. In this sense, last year, I bought a diabolo (which to my understanding it's a form of juggling) that I can do a few things on. And slightly related, I do yoyo, am pretty decent at it as yoyoing was a huge part of my childhood (good old Duncan Imperials and Butterflies...then Yomegas came into the scene with their transaxles and bearings).

2012-03-23, 05:09 AM	#808
skilewis74 Stupidity gets you 2 of these: Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Santa Rosa, Ca. Age: 38 Posts: 3,825	Theoretically it makes sense to practice the technique closest to what you want to do and it would take less time. It did take me a while to get myself to consistenly throw both balls to the same hight and at first I was shuffling one of the balls instead of throwing it like I wanted. For me when I tried the 2 ball cascade, I was throwing balls accross the room and dealing w/ that much failure was depressing. The same has been true when learning most tricks I usually have to figure out a middle step from what I've been shown w/ two or even one ball. Kids, say under 12, in my experience would usually need to start w/ the shower if any chance they will stick w/ it, considering the lower hand-eye coordination little kids have, and how easily distracted/discouraged they can be, w/o having some relatively quick success or regular incouragement. I make a point that it's not juggling yet but it'll help and I then show them the technique for the cascade w/ two balls. I always show someone the whole process w/ them trying each bit w/in 5 min. Older kids and adults, it usually seems like it's 50/50 who could start directly w/ the cascade or who is uncoordinated like I was. I always start w/ the shower so even if the person who is interested in learning is very uncoordinated, or a friend they later teach is, they have a process they can practice that'll get them to the cascade. Also, I find being very comfortable w/ a variety of patterns makes it easier to recover from mistakes and learn new tricks. __________________ Ride everywhere and never just ride anywhere. If you can ride where you are going within a hour, do it, and if you can do a trick 50-75% of the time do it along the way.- Bob Burnquist What's next? Learn2Ride&doTricks TrialsClasses&Building Last edited by skilewis74; 2012-03-23 at 05:18 AM.

2012-08-23, 09:44 PM	#810
unirox13 Unicycling Ninja! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 24 Posts: 536	Bump and some new info! The balls from the above review are now available at www.flyingclipper.com Head over there and check out the Tossaball Phat Tyre 32 juggling balls! http://www.flyingclipper.com/home/fl...ggle_ball.html __________________ The World is on fire, are you the smoke, or the flames?

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