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Old 2003-02-23, 03:22 AM   #16
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John, it might be because with the imroper use of a metal DH tire lever you can rip right through the sidewalls of rims? maybe they dont want to be held responsible.
I would have to disagree...... With that logic, they wouldn't sell us a MUni because we could bang up our shins, break a wrist, sprain an ankle, hit your head.....

They just probably havn't had enough people ask them, or the suppliers won't make it profitable for them to sell them. Who knows, but I really doubt it's a matter of being responsible.

I ordered the Intense levers a few days ago through a LBS. For something that small, unless you are ordering a bunch of other stuff, the shipping charges on just a couple levers from uni.com would probably just about double the price. Online usually isn't the best place to buy small things.
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Old 2003-02-23, 03:25 AM   #17
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I was just saying it was possible is all.
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Old 2003-02-23, 03:33 AM   #18
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these composite levers made by Pedros have been good to me.

as far as plastic goes,these are the strongest yet.
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Old 2003-02-23, 03:59 AM   #19
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Well if I *have* been riding a different tire than the Arrow Savage, then it's unicycle.com's fault.

All I'm saying is that I ordered what said "Arrow racing Savage tire-- 24"/3.0" and that's what they sent me.

Maybe it is a different tire, but it *definitely* has 'Arrow' in bright yellow on the side.
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Old 2003-02-23, 04:30 AM   #20
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John, it might be because with the imroper use of a metal DH tire lever you can rip right through the sidewalls of rims? maybe they dont want to be held responsible.
The proper metal levers are blunt enough that you aren't going to rip the sidewall of the tire by using them. If you're using a metal screwdriver then yah, you could do some damage to the sidewall of the tire.

I also put some duct tape on my tire lever to keep it from scuffing up the rim as I use it.

As long as the metal tire lever is blunt with no sharp edges I see no problems with using a metal lever on a DH tire. A little duct tape on the lever will save the rim from some scratches while using the lever.
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Old 2003-02-23, 04:34 AM   #21
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Iv just heard from the guy at work that he witnessed an Intense type lever go through the side of a doublewide when used to install a Gazz, and figured it might happen other times. the most expensive tire lever I own is a Quickstick. nylon, yellow, and it works well enough.
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Old 2003-02-23, 08:57 AM   #22
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Jagur- yes, we are talking about 2 different tyres.

My Gazz has become a lot easier to get on and off the rim as it has aged. In the 10 months or so that I've had it, I've taken it on and off probably 10 times. The first few times the Gazz was very tight and I broke a couple of tyre levers in the process. I now use Park plastic tyre levers and they work OK.

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Old 2003-02-23, 05:51 PM   #23
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For an experiment last week I changed from my usual Gazz 24x3 to the Arrow 24x2.75. I'm afraid I can't say anything positive about the way it rides. It was fine on perfectly flat stretches but riding any slight camber was awful.
I've been using an IRC Kujo 24x3.0 tire (looks alot like the Arrow tire) since last summer and have experienced the same thing that Tony did when I ran the Kujo with too little air pressure. One time I let too much air out at the top of the trail and it was practically impossible to ride back down the trail. The tire wanted to go anywhere but straight and REALLY wanted to climb up and out of the dished trail.

The thing I found with the Kujo is that there's a very narrow range of tire pressure that works well. Too little and it wants to wander, too much and it's stiff. Under certain conditions though, I think it's a good tire. With enough air pressure it rolls nice and smooth, has great traction, lots of air volumn for a cushy ride and is lighter than the Gazz. I use a standard lightweight inner tube in the Kujo so the whole setup is roughly a pound lighter than a Gazz with downhill tube.

I have a new Gazz now and it's great. If I could only have one tire it would be a Gazz but it's nice to have a variety.

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Old 2003-02-23, 06:40 PM   #24
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I have a new Gazz now and it's great. If I could only have one tire it would be a Gazz but it's nice to have a variety.
Does anyone know how the Gazz compares to a Halo Contra? I've only ever ridden the Contra I have on my muni; what difference would a Gazz make, if any?

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Old 2003-02-25, 11:28 PM   #25
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Re: Arrow Racing Savage 24 x 3.0 DH Tire

On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 12:40:40 -0600, phil
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>showard wrote:
>> *I have a new Gazz now and it's great. If I could only have one tire
>> it would be a Gazz but it's nice to have a variety.*

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>Does anyone know how the Gazz compares to a Halo Contra? I've only ever
>ridden the Contra I have on my muni; what difference would a Gazz make,
>if any?
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I'm taking the liberty to reiterate this question from Phil which
could have been mine as well. The Gazzalodi always gets such a good
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Old 2003-03-03, 10:19 PM   #26
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this tyre
sure does look sweet!
it sure does look sweet online but i just opened my UPS box and the sidewall is NOT red like i asked 3 times over the phone.it is jet black like the rest of the tyre.

here we go again,sorry John.
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Old 2003-03-03, 10:26 PM   #27
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That's too bad. If you want red you could try an IRC Kujo?
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i knew that going in,but i thought i would give that Arrow a shot.i just cant belive this.
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Old 2003-03-03, 10:46 PM   #29
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Yeah, that really has to suck. Well, I had good luck with the Kujo, and you should be able to order one from about any shop. good luck with finding a tire you like though.
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Old 2004-07-12, 05:12 PM   #30
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Jagur, did you end up running the Wide Bite or returning it? I was thinking about getting on and wanted to here the opinion of somebody who had used it. Anyone elses opinion is welcome too. My Duro is about worn out and I need a new tire, I don't wanna run a Gazz b/c I ride on pavement a lot and would just wear it out.
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