Is Kris the best...or just the most popular?

Sofa · 2003-01-21, 01:30 AM

I see Kris riding all the time in videos and stuff, but I wonder...there must be other 'really good' riders out there.

Does Kris have any real competition?

Are ther others out there just waiting for corporate sponsors?

Or are we gonna have to wait until Kris it too old and decrepid (sp?) before there is another 'most-famous' rider?

Anyone?

Or does Kris just blow everyone away?

Who do you think is 2nd best then? Sofa? Not quite

Is whoever is 2nd best come Klose to Kris?

There must be SOMETHING that Kris is 2nd best at!

ExtremeUnicycler · 2003-01-21, 01:45 AM

Downhill/XC results this year: 1st: Dan Heaton, 2nd: Kris Holm.

ExtremeUnicycler · 2003-01-21, 01:51 AM

Although the results really dont prove much, and even though it was just a race amongst friends, I thought I would bring them up... Kris didn't come first, although, I dont think that's really his specialty.

Dylan

unisteve · 2003-01-21, 02:01 AM

Not meaning to make fun of Kris but, that is COOOOOOL. I think we could beat him at something. Maybe even non-uni if we cant think of anything.... like hen slapping at forty paces. You know for a Shaeksperian (sp?) twist or something...

JonnyD · 2003-01-21, 02:32 AM

I don't know what it's like to be on top, as Kris is, but isn't it just tearing all he's worked for down to say, "I can beat you, only to prove myself, even though you've had to prove yourself to everyone else first!" I mean after all, HE was the one who got the Norco sponsorship after all.

I guess I don't really know what I'm talking about, it's just that I don't want to pull down someone who's great inspiration for so many people.... maybe it's just deep respect or something-- I dunno.

So basically, I am better than Kris Holm, I've been riding longer than John Foss, and I know everything. I just don't think we should bring down the "hero" of our sport.

Sofa · 2003-01-21, 02:38 AM

I didn't mean it like that...I'm just saying that there must be somebody with possibly the same amount of talent, that we just don't hear about as much.

I thank Kris for everything that he's done for us half-bike fanatics, but I was just figuring that he can't be THAT much better than absolutely EVERYONE.

I guess I'm just curious to see who's next

JonnyD · 2003-01-21, 02:49 AM

I see.

Anyhow, I realize that I am I bit loopy at the moment; I went for a very long and exhausting, yet extremely fun Muni ride today: a good three hours.

I'm sure there are some people, such as Kris, with great skill, but after all, no one is the same. This applies directly to talent/skill since everyone learns differently and everyone has their own strengths.

harper · 2003-01-21, 03:11 AM

I've seen Kris Holm ride a little (when I could catch up) and there is no doubt that he is an incredible athlete. He does things that are pretty much unbelievable even when you are watching them unfold right before your eyes.

I've also seen "the kids" ride. Ben Plotkin-Swing, Dylan Wallinger, Max Dingemans, Dan Heaton, these guys that are all 16 to 20 years old and doing fantastic trials and MUni riding. These guys have lots of years left in them and they are already amazing at what they do. They will probably surpass Kris. Then, the now 10 year olds will be chasing them. So it goes.

spokelerlarue · 2003-01-21, 04:01 AM

well, as for people that have the ability to.
i would put my money on The Homie of Uni. (jay brady)
he is amazing in everything he does, and if he wanted to shame kris holm, he could do it, no problem. but... as you put it, you don't want to shame the "hero" of our sport. but all of the people that are better than you are in some way your "hero" perhaps i think of him this way because i could NEVER be as good as either kris holm or jay brady.

spokelerlarue

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Max_Dingemans · 2003-01-21, 04:13 AM

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Originally posted by harper

I've also seen "the kids" ride. Ben Plotkin-Swing, Dylan Wallinger, Max Dingemans, Dan Heaton, these guys that are all 16 to 20 years old and doing fantastic trials and MUni riding. These guys have lots of years left in them and they are already amazing at what they do. They will probably surpass Kris.

Me Surpass Kris? Cant happen!

Checkernuts · 2003-01-21, 04:19 AM

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Originally posted by Max_Dingemans

Me Surpass Kris? Cant happen!

Not with that aditude...

harper · 2003-01-21, 04:41 AM

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Originally posted by Max_Dingemans

Me Surpass Kris? Cant happen!

I've seen you ride. You've never seen you ride. You've seen me ride. If you think that everyone else that rides, rides like me, including you, I can understand why you would think that way. But they don't. Some people ride like you, including you. Is that at all clear? Am I missing some words or punctuation or paragraphs?

You also have special talents that no one else possesses. When they fall on logs, they break their unicycles or themselves. You break the logs. That's a cool feature. I've seen you ride skinnies before and you're good at that, too. I've seen you jump around on unstable stumps while the rest of us were gasping for air and watching, waiting for you to get tired so we could go on and maybe keep up. And that's just the MUni stuff.

I saw you do a routine in a gym blindfolded. I've seen you do high level standard skills stuff....blindfolded, and with an audience. You're good, Max, get used to it.

Scott Stephens · 2003-01-21, 05:18 AM

Ive always thought that Nathan Hoover was underated........

Erin · 2003-01-21, 05:43 AM

Yeah, I agee with your comment about Nathan. He is such an exceptional rider and so humble. He just rides along with Kris and has fun. Doesn't draw attention away from Kris and yet he certainly is good enough to ride with the 'best'.
And...
he, shares Kris's generosity in terms of helping out new and even not so new riders with suggestions on technique and equipment.

For sure, Nathan, inadvertantly in the shadow of Kris Holm, is underated.

Erin

GILD · 2003-01-21, 03:05 PM

>You're good, Max, get used to it.

and if u need some practise max, try n push the space bar on your keyboard
no, i said try n push it
no,TRY

it's very cliche i know
it also happens to be true
u either do or dont do something
there is no try
and if u do stuff and do it well, u owe yourself the respect of recognition
part of that 'self-respect' is the humility u'll find a lot of people mention when they discuss kris
( i dont know him personally)

have fun with it

2003-01-21, 01:30 AM	#1
Sofa you - pee - dee Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: London, Ontario Age: 38 Posts: 3,202	Is Kris the best...or just the most popular? I see Kris riding all the time in videos and stuff, but I wonder...there must be other 'really good' riders out there. Does Kris have any real competition? Are ther others out there just waiting for corporate sponsors? Or are we gonna have to wait until Kris it too old and decrepid (sp?) before there is another 'most-famous' rider? Anyone? Or does Kris just blow everyone away? Who do you think is 2nd best then? Sofa? Not quite Is whoever is 2nd best come Klose to Kris? There must be SOMETHING that Kris is 2nd best at! __________________ Happy Life Day

2003-01-21, 01:45 AM	#2
ExtremeUnicycler Dylan Wallinger Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Black Creek, BC, Canada Posts: 100	Downhill/XC results this year: 1st: Dan Heaton, 2nd: Kris Holm. __________________ "Hey guys! Whoah, big gulps huh? allright. Well, see ya later"

2003-01-21, 01:51 AM	#3
ExtremeUnicycler Dylan Wallinger Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Black Creek, BC, Canada Posts: 100	Although the results really dont prove much, and even though it was just a race amongst friends, I thought I would bring them up... Kris didn't come first, although, I dont think that's really his specialty. Dylan __________________ "Hey guys! Whoah, big gulps huh? allright. Well, see ya later"

2003-01-21, 02:01 AM	#4
unisteve Yes? Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 23 Posts: 1,336	Not meaning to make fun of Kris but, that is COOOOOOL. I think we could beat him at something. Maybe even non-uni if we cant think of anything.... like hen slapping at forty paces. You know for a Shaeksperian (sp?) twist or something... __________________ "...if a bunch of fellow unicyclists can't rally around, commiserate and say 'chin up, lad', then what is this world coming to?" -GILD

2003-01-21, 02:38 AM	#6
Sofa you - pee - dee Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: London, Ontario Age: 38 Posts: 3,202	I didn't mean it like that...I'm just saying that there must be somebody with possibly the same amount of talent, that we just don't hear about as much. I thank Kris for everything that he's done for us half-bike fanatics, but I was just figuring that he can't be THAT much better than absolutely EVERYONE. I guess I'm just curious to see who's next __________________ Happy Life Day

2003-01-21, 02:32 AM	#5
JonnyD Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Utah, USA Posts: 226	I don't know what it's like to be on top, as Kris is, but isn't it just tearing all he's worked for down to say, "I can beat you, only to prove myself, even though you've had to prove yourself to everyone else first!" I mean after all, HE was the one who got the Norco sponsorship after all. I guess I don't really know what I'm talking about, it's just that I don't want to pull down someone who's great inspiration for so many people.... maybe it's just deep respect or something-- I dunno. So basically, I am better than Kris Holm, I've been riding longer than John Foss, and I know everything. I just don't think we should bring down the "hero" of our sport.

2003-01-21, 02:49 AM	#7
JonnyD Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Utah, USA Posts: 226	I see. Anyhow, I realize that I am I bit loopy at the moment; I went for a very long and exhausting, yet extremely fun Muni ride today: a good three hours. I'm sure there are some people, such as Kris, with great skill, but after all, no one is the same. This applies directly to talent/skill since everyone learns differently and everyone has their own strengths.

2003-01-21, 03:11 AM	#8
harper 768 - It's in your DNA Join Date: Sep 2001 Age: 60 Posts: 8,557	I've seen Kris Holm ride a little (when I could catch up) and there is no doubt that he is an incredible athlete. He does things that are pretty much unbelievable even when you are watching them unfold right before your eyes. I've also seen "the kids" ride. Ben Plotkin-Swing, Dylan Wallinger, Max Dingemans, Dan Heaton, these guys that are all 16 to 20 years old and doing fantastic trials and MUni riding. These guys have lots of years left in them and they are already amazing at what they do. They will probably surpass Kris. Then, the now 10 year olds will be chasing them. So it goes. __________________ -Greg Harper Destroying the climate by shutting down nuclear power plants, one by one, since 1979. JC is the only main man. There can be no other. "A fool on a unicycle is redundant" - J.D. Miller

2003-01-21, 05:18 AM	#13
Scott Stephens Equipment Destroyer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: San Antonio Texas Age: 25 Posts: 458	Ive always thought that Nathan Hoover was underated........ __________________ If it weren't for electricity we'd all be watching television by candlelight." George Gobol I have worked too hard to be a clown. I am an athlete and wish to be respected as one.- Checkernuts

2003-01-21, 05:43 AM	#14
Erin wheeler Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Vancouver Canada Age: 57 Posts: 1,029	Yeah, I agee with your comment about Nathan. He is such an exceptional rider and so humble. He just rides along with Kris and has fun. Doesn't draw attention away from Kris and yet he certainly is good enough to ride with the 'best'. And... he, shares Kris's generosity in terms of helping out new and even not so new riders with suggestions on technique and equipment. For sure, Nathan, inadvertantly in the shadow of Kris Holm, is underated. Erin __________________ "If you have no goals, you can accomplish almost anything!" Slugbath

2003-01-21, 03:05 PM	#15
GILD Waffle-Tosser, Time-bider and JCTK Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: the bustling metropolis of Nelspruitia, south africa Age: 45 Posts: 15,569	>You're good, Max, get used to it. and if u need some practise max, try n push the space bar on your keyboard no, i said try n push it no,TRY it's very cliche i know it also happens to be true u either do or dont do something there is no try and if u do stuff and do it well, u owe yourself the respect of recognition part of that 'self-respect' is the humility u'll find a lot of people mention when they discuss kris ( i dont know him personally) have fun with it __________________ Three short Gs and a long E-flat™ - UniHoki If I'm Murdered, Don't Execute My Killer. harper MikeFule Seager BluntRM NAMASTE! Dave

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