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Old 2001-12-08, 06:29 PM   #1
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harper wrote:

> this list refers to fora as "forums" (nasty little cross-lingual
> plural, that)

I just looked it up in a dictionary
http://www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/di...erm=forum&r=67 and it says the
plural can be either forums or fora. But if you feel better about using
fora, you can access the fora at http://www.unicyclist.com/fora/

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Old 2001-12-08, 08:37 PM   #2
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The same dictionary will tell you that radiuses is an acceptable plural of radius. Does that tweak your engineering nose or what, Kevin?

I also like octopuses, hippopotamuses, and indexes (rather than indices). Viruses, instead of viri, really irks me because I see it so often. Why is data (plural of datum) still widely used but stadia (plural of stadium) never used?

I think English was never meant to be taken seriously. It's kind of like a cartoon language....transient and flexible like the elastic, animated characters of old.

I likewise think that I am not to be taken too seriously. Please don't. But thanks for adding the link to "fora". That's a hoot. I'll have to remember to use it everyday.
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Old 2001-12-08, 09:57 PM   #3
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In article <9utu4n$4b4$1@laurel.tc.umn.edu>, harper
<forum.member@unicyclist.com> wrote: ) Viruses, instead of viri, really
irks me because I see it so )often.

You probably see it often because it's correct, and viri isn't.

) Why is data (plural of datum) still widely used but stadia )(plural of
stadium) never used?

data is usually used in a sigular sense these days, and datum is
rarely used. If datum were commonly used, I'm sure we'd be pluralizing
it as datums.

)I think English was never meant to be taken seriously. It's kind of like
)a cartoon language....transient and flexible like the elastic, animated
)characters of old.

Language is what people speak to each other, and it has always been
transient and flexible. -Tom
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Old 2001-12-08, 10:12 PM   #4
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On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 12:29:21 -0600, Kevin Gilbertson
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[color=blue]>harper wrote:[/color]
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[color={usenetquotecolor2}]> > this list refers to fora as "forums" (nasty little cross-lingual[/color]
[color={usenetquotecolor2}]> > plural, that)[/color]
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[color=blue]>I just looked it up in a dictionary[/color]
[color=blue]>http://www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/di...erm=forum&r=67 and it says the[/color]
[color=blue]>plural can be either forums or fora. But if you feel better about using[/color]
[color=blue]>fora, you can access the fora at http://www.unicyclist.com/fora/[/color]

Funny, that. But apart from the url everything on the page is still
"forums". If you're serious about it (which I think you're not), download
iReplace. Google finds it. It does search and replace on multiple html
files. (I have no other connection to iReplace than that I downloaded it
the other day.)

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Old 2001-12-09, 09:02 AM   #5
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>)I think English was never meant to be taken seriously. It's kind of like
>)a cartoon language....transient and flexible like the elastic, animated
>)characters of old.

I like making fun of English(my mother tongue) too. We have silly grammatical rules, which we abuse by having exceptions for each one. Take the phrase "mother tongue." What does that have to do with my mom? I prefer French "langue maternelle." Anyways, maybe I like French because it doesn't seem all stupid to me, because I don't know it as well. (But I wish francophones wouldn't laugh at my accent..)
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I have to say that I see two identical postings from Klaas up there. I've seen it in other threads(not all). I post exclusively via (non-english word!!!) Unicyclist.com(thanks Gilby!) I most often see Klaas' postings doubled, but I've seen others here, and sometimes even quadrupled. The double postings seem to happen only from people who post via the newsgroup.

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Old 2001-12-09, 12:22 PM   #6
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Exclamation viruses

"Viruses, instead of viri, really irks me because I see it so often."
Viruses is the correct plural of virus. Not all Latin nouns ending in -us change to -i in the plural; only second declension nouns. I believe virus is fourth declension, so in Latin it would remain unchanged in the plural. In English, though, it is viruses. Viri is the plural of vir, viri, the second declension noun meaning man.
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Old 2001-12-09, 04:33 PM   #7
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Oops...I'll change the subject (or my screen name) to hide my embarassment (for Klaas Bil the plural being embarassmenten).

I get double postings from Michael Grant and Klaas Bill occassionally. I usually get 5x postings from John Foss. Iget multiple postings from others sporadically.
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Old 2001-12-09, 04:40 PM   #8
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Sorry, Rebbeca: out of pure long-hair solidarity, I have to side with Harper.

Quote:
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Is so.

Ya, word to your mother!

Time to go sing the "You say toe-may-toe, I say toe-mah-toe" while practicing my run-on-sentace mount. Basami Juggling, anyone?

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Old 2001-12-09, 04:44 PM   #9
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Quote:
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I get double postings from Michael Grant and Klaas Bill occassionally. I usually get 5x postings from John Foss. Iget multiple postings from others sporadically.
Ya, me to, in the same ratios (ratia?).

I view the forum via Gilby's service (thanx, Mr. G).

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Old 2001-12-09, 05:09 PM   #10
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You preach it, Christopher. If conquering forces and NPR journalists can change the face of language then so can unicyclists. I believe that the prefix, uni, is Latin in origin and that the root, cycle, is Greek. We've already begun. Now, let's wait for the plethora of plurals to pour in and we'll be ready to attack.

Viva le cheveux long, comrade!
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Old 2001-12-09, 06:07 PM   #11
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Quote:
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I get double postings from Michael Grant and Klaas Bill occassionally. I usually get 5x postings from John Foss. Iget multiple postings from others sporadically.
In the unicyclist.com forums you're all going to see the same double postings... it's a problem with the script I use to import posts from the newsgroup that is caused by emails that do not have the proper headers to thread it properly. So when my script has to figure out where to put the post, it sometimes multiplies them. I am not sure exactly what the cause of it is, but I'll look into it to see if there is an easy fix. I'm planning on rewriting the import script soon though to better suit these forums (I didn't write the original import script, but hacked it quite a bit). Sorry about the annoyance of the multiple postings.
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Old 2001-12-09, 07:02 PM   #12
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Quote:
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Sorry about the annoyance of the multiple postings.
Hey, man: you'r doing us a FAVOR- for nada. No need to apologise. You'ze 'da MAN!

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Old 2001-12-09, 07:06 PM   #13
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Exclamation Vernacular

>"Language is what people speak to each other, and it has always been
transient and flexible. -Tom"

I cant agree with that statement! Vernacular is what people speak to each other, and it has always been
transient and flexible. Language is the way the vernacular is supposed to be spoken.
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Old 2001-12-09, 07:45 PM   #14
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Re: Vernacular

Quote:
Originally posted by UniDak
. Language is the way the vernacular is supposed to be spoken.
-David Kaplan
Are you trying to entice me into missusing the word rassberry? Realy! Hrumph! I'd never! I.. I... oh, what the hell...

Pppphhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhttttttttttttttteeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrpppppp!

Ah- I feel much better.

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Old 2001-12-10, 07:01 PM   #15
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[color=blue]> I cant agree with that statement! Vernacular is what people speak to[/color]
[color=blue]> each other, and it has always been transient and flexible. Language is[/color]
[color=blue]> the way the vernacular is supposed to be spoken. -David Kaplan[/color]

I think he's right. Boy, am I glad I'm out of school!

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