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Old 2012-04-16, 12:07 AM   #1
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New 29er Tire from Schwalbe

http://twentynineinches.com/2012/04/...t-impressions/

Three styles, three prices:

http://www.pricepoint.com/detail/227...15&zmas=1&zmac

Anyone tried this tire yet? It looks tough, just wonder how much better it can be than the Ardent 2.4 and if it's as big as an Ardent or RR. It has promise, but we need a tester, Bueller?
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Old 2012-04-16, 12:17 AM   #2
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throw me a unicycle and i will let you know =D hehe, looks pretty ballin, (when i get a 26" Muni) i am going to try my

Kenda Kenetic 2.6" wide
Kenda Nevegal 2.5" wide
WTB exiwolf 2.3" wide

hehe but that one would be fun, seems like it would handle the fast corners well
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Old 2012-04-16, 01:27 AM   #3
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http://twentynineinches.com/2012/04/...t-impressions/

Three styles, three prices:

http://www.pricepoint.com/detail/227...15&zmas=1&zmac

Anyone tried this tire yet? It looks tough, just wonder how much better it can be than the Ardent 2.4 and if it's as big as an Ardent or RR. It has promise, but we need a tester, Bueller?

Hmm, interesting. I was getting ready to replace my Stout with an Ardent, but maybe I'll give this a try. A little heavier and pricier than the Ardent, and spec'd slightly narrower, but the snakeskin and tread pattern are very attractive.

I also like this comment to the twentynineinches reivew:

Eli Says:
April 11, 2012 at 1:44 pm
I recently purchased some 29″ Hans Dampfs in the Trailstar compound combo. I haven’t ridden them yet as I’m waiting for a new pair of wheels first. However I am very impressed with how grippy the tread compound feels and VERY impressed with how thick the sidewalls are. Seems a little thicker than Ardent 2.4 and Mountain King 2.4, and substantially thicker than Stouts and Nevegals.
FYI, the 29er tire has only two options.
http://www.schwalbetires.com/bike_ti...res/hans_dampf

Also, the link above was to the 26 version. Here's the 29er for sale.
http://www.pricepoint.com/detail/234...p=320%20SWBH91
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Old 2012-04-16, 01:52 AM   #4
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Anyone have thoughts on whether to go with the Trailstar or Pacestar rubber?

Descriptions here.

I'm probably edging toward the stickier, but probably slower and less durable, Trailstar. I figure if I'm ever riding extensively on road I'll switch to my Big Apple. However, I don't ride particularly technical terrain, and lower rolling resistance with better durability is also attractive. But then, I don't need to ride faster, especially where I'm trying to ride more with my son on his 24" wheel. . .
or maybe I should just go with the tried and true Ardent. . ..

I love having problems like this.

edit: I just noticed from the photo that the twnetynineinches write up was based on the Pacestar version. Doesn't sound like they thought there was any lack of grip with that compound.
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Old 2012-04-16, 02:18 AM   #5
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Best price I can find on the Hans Dampf (Trailstar version), with shipping, is $74.49. By the way, I don't see any for sale in the Pacestar rubber, so my prior post may be moot.

The best price I can find on the Ardent, with shipping, is $56.94.

31% more for the Hans Dampf is seeming a bit steep.
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I have seen the 26" version in person on the front of a girls bike I met at the bottom of Porcupine Rim Trail. It basically looked like a much more aggressive beefed up Racing Ralph.

The girl said that she mostly liked it but found it too grippy at speed on the rocks to the point where it wants to self steer. I offered to trade her for a Black Panther or a Bull Lock (which she actually looked at) but the sidewalls of the vredestein's weren't beefy enough for her liking.


I think it would be a great 29" MUni tire. Take the RR (which is lacking in the tread and sidewall department) and give it some serious tread and beefy sidewalls. Sounds like a winner to me.
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Old 2012-04-16, 04:27 AM   #7
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Well, I had thought it sounded pretty good, but "too grippy at speed" might be a deal killer.
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Old 2012-04-16, 04:28 AM   #8
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. . . just kidding.
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I would jump on the wagon and get one, but I am knee deep in tires right now, so I gotta wear one out (29 Ardent) before I buy a new tire.

I really liked the Racing Ralph, still have one folded up on a shelf, it was lacking in casing stiffness and armoring, both of which they appear to have added in this new tire. If it's as voluminous as the RR then it's a worthy option.

As much as I like the Ardent, the are times when I wish it had 10-15% more rubber in the sidewalls.
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Old 2012-04-17, 12:27 AM   #10
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Get the pacestar, the sticky version wears faast and once you expose the undlying be layer it is all but done, so you pay a lot for a tirthat doesn't last long, this would be more of an issue on a muni that gets mileage like a 29er...

I'm tempted to pull the trigger, but I just bought a washer; my cycling clothes need a good washing
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Old 2012-04-17, 04:23 AM   #11
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Yeah, I think I'll go for it if I can find one in pacestar reasonably priced.
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Old 2012-04-17, 03:39 PM   #12
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I found one in Pacestar for $71.99, shipped. I've loved every Schwalbe tire I've had, so couldn't resist.

Look out when ordering these - many sites have confused descriptions, and I don't think they're very accurate in distinguishing which rubber is on the tire. The site linked above has both compounds, and at different prices (Pacestar is cheaper), so I'm pretty confident about getting the correct tire.

I'll post photos and first impressions when I get it in a few days. However, it will probably still be another couple months before I can put it to the test on trails. I'm now back to riding my recumbent, but haven't tried getting on a uni yet (riding is not the issue, it's the dismounts I'm concerned about, putting too much shock on my still-healing ligaments).
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Hey, before mounting the tire, see an LBS has an Ardent in stock so you can compare them. I'm curious if the sidewall is beefier.
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Old 2012-04-17, 06:13 PM   #14
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Hey, before mounting the tire, see an LBS has an Ardent in stock so you can compare them. I'm curious if the sidewall is beefier.
There are no 29x2.4 Ardents in stock anywhere locally. I do know where there is a 29x2.25 - are the sidewalls the same?
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An MTBR thread with pics and dimensions, meaured with a caliper on a narrow mtb rim, looks to be about the same volume as an Ardent 2.4 or an RR 2.4, but beefier rubber and casing. Now how can they do that and still be so close in weight??

http://forums.mtbr.com/29er-bikes/sc...cs-746996.html

So, we need a solid, subjective opinion comparing this tire to an Ardent, which has a thicker sidewall, more rubber, etc....
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