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Old 2008-10-09, 02:04 PM   #1
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Should farm animals gain a legal right to stand, sit, lie down, turn around, stretch?

What kind of animal would keep veal-calves immobile in crates barely large enough to contain their bodies? Or egg-laying hens in cages so small they can never stretch their wings?

Californians have the opportunity to become more human this November, by voting on the California Farm Animal Cruelty Act -- Proposition 2.
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Old 2008-10-09, 02:16 PM   #2
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Proposition 2: Treatment of Farm Animals. Statute.
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Old 2008-10-09, 03:40 PM   #3
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Yes, I think farm animals deserve much more rights.

This may screw the economy over even further... but some things are more important (though the economy is well important).
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Old 2008-10-09, 04:00 PM   #4
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Mmmm....farm animals......mmmm.
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Old 2008-10-09, 04:44 PM   #5
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They need to figure out how to grow meat in a test tube already, then we won't have to worry about harming these tasty animals. If meat did come from a tube instead of cute little animals, would there be fewer vegetarians in the world? And would we still be allowed to eat animals at all? hmm...
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Old 2008-10-09, 04:54 PM   #6
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Nevermind That; Prop never gonna happen
All animals have the right to live. This will be enacted in 2015 to allow existing cattle stock to be diminished to a natural count.
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Nevermind That; Prop never gonna happen
All animals have the right to live. This will be enacted in 2015 to allow existing cattle stock to be diminished to a natural count.
I've always wondered when something like this would happen...

I'm guessing it will happen at some point or another, to be honest. I mean, assuming that animals are equal to humans this is worse then slavery, and my guess is that perhaps eventually it would become illegal to eat animals...

I doubt it would be any time soon though...
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Just because we have a higher IQ and thumbs doesn't mean we are greater than a bull. Actually dolphins are just as equal to me in my oppinion.
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Old 2008-10-09, 05:06 PM   #9
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There's a psa running in my area showing the terrible mistreatment of these poor animals and it really sickens me and breaks my heart to see them in those conditions. Like a forklift driver knocking over a helpless cow and almost running it over. Or a baby pig biting down on the metal bar of his tiny cage out of sheer desperation to escape. Disgusting and sad.
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food from animals that are free to roam always tastes better than food from couped up animals. i grew up on a farm and we raised cows, pigs, and chickens and the meat and eggs were SO much better than store bought. it takes more land to raise animals this way, but the food is better and i think animals should never be kept in small pens. it's mean.
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Old 2008-10-09, 05:51 PM   #11
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Vote against factory farming and animal abuse with your purchasing dollars. Reconnect with your local small, family farmers (who desperately need your support). Meet them and talk with them. Buy from those who have the best practices.
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There's a psa running in my area showing the terrible mistreatment of these poor animals and it really sickens me and breaks my heart to see them in those conditions. Like a forklift driver knocking over a helpless cow and almost running it over. Or a baby pig biting down on the metal bar of his tiny cage out of sheer desperation to escape. Disgusting and sad.
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Just because we have a higher IQ and thumbs doesn't mean we are greater than a bull. Actually dolphins are just as equal to me in my oppinion.
You can't balance a ball on your nose while swimming backwards, or take a swimming leap out of the pool through a hoop, or jump up and take a fish out of the bikini girl's mouth.

Is your claim of being equal to the dolphin an overstatement?
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Old 2008-10-09, 07:22 PM   #13
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Proposition 2 is on our ballot, so how do the Californians out there plan to vote? It'll be a yes from Jacquie and me. In reading the arguments about it, the opposition side speaks only of hens and eggs, and never mentions the other animals. I think the hen/egg part is the vast majority for this proposal. The No side claims California would lose its egg market due to higher prices. The Yes side says the difference would be a few pennies per egg, or per dozen. I'm willing to pay such a difference, and I think a majority of Californians are too. And since there is no argument against the stuff for the veal and pork (can't say there's no pork in this one), our Yes votes are reconfirmed.

To me it's a no-brainer. Slightly higher costs on the one hand, and better treatment of the animals on the other. While some people will always just buy the cheapest stuff, those of us who care (and we can afford it) will happily pay a little more to feel better about that stuff if we choose to buy it.
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You can't balance a ball on your nose while swimming backwards, or take a swimming leap out of the pool through a hoop, or jump up and take a fish out of the bikini girl's mouth.

Is your claim of being equal to the dolphin an overstatement?
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You beat the dolphin.

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