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Old 2020-01-10, 02:26 AM   #16
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If you ever head down to the OC ("Behind the Orange Curtain"), you can try my G26. While that size could end up being your dream uni, a Schlumpf hub takes more than a little getting used to.
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Old 2020-01-10, 03:31 AM   #17
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So my remaining Uni is a 26x3, my 29 was x2.3 with one of the old KH undrilled rims. Pretty skinny.

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Old 2020-01-10, 06:30 AM   #18
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If you ever head down to the OC ("Behind the Orange Curtain"), you can try my G26. While that size could end up being your dream uni, a Schlumpf hub takes more than a little getting used to.
I did try one before for a few minutes and couldn't get the hang of shifting. I kept missing when I thought I would hit it then I'd finally get it at a time I wasn't expecting and UPD. I also had a hard time overcoming the bizarre sensation of static mounting it in high gear. My brain wanted it to be a 26, and even if I told it to think like I was mounting a bigger unicycle it couldn't seem to figure out how to apply the right pressure to the pedals and I didn't make it anywhere haha.

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Old 2020-01-10, 09:45 AM   #19
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Does anyone have any experience with the Hatchet line of unicycles and the different tire sizes?
I wouldn't get a hatchet. They are very bouncy and my legs touch the wheel all the time. Only ride every so many months to remember what it felt like. It is too heavy and has too much friction. I think it is a bit over the top (won't sell it though )
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Old 2020-01-10, 02:20 PM   #20
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I have a hatchet with a 27.5 x 4.5 tire. Not my favorite . I use it mostly for snow. It 's slow, takes a lot of effort, heavy, and sometimes that's why I use it.
Maybe I'll feel different when I get more comfortable on it. I might try a skinnier tire and/or tweaking my tire pressure.....

Everything just feels better on my 26x3, like a pair of old comfortable shoes.
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Old 2020-01-10, 06:12 PM   #21
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Ah I see, so they're a big more specialized to unusual terrain like sand, mud, snow, etc?

I see the mad4ones run an internal disc, is the hub spacing also such that it wouldn't accept a schlumpf hub?

It kind of sounds like a 27.5 or 29 might be my perfect setup with the future option of adding a schlumpf hub.

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Old 2020-01-10, 11:54 PM   #22
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I've always liked my KH29 with the 3 1/4" Crux which made for a 31" diameter (I think). I ride semi-technical muni cross country/all mountain and I'm 6' 3".
I'm sure my 36"er will take over half of my muni rides now.
Lots of good info and I agree with almost everything that's been suggested, especially from Finnspin.

Although I have never ridden a 32", I mostly ride my KH29+ and my 36" off road.

As Canoeheadted stated, the 29" with a plus tire comes pretty close to a 32" (mine is about 30.5" with the DHR 29x3" and 31" with the Crus 29x3.25").

As Finn stated, the primary thing to consider is the tire selection: for 29+ you have a LOT of great tires to choose from (although some are pretty pricey at $50-125). Presently on the 32 the selection is limited and the market is small.

On the other hand, I really love riding my 36" for XC and the Nightrider 36x2.25" tire works amazingly well off road but it is not a downhill machine.

So I would strongly consider the 29+. If the limited tire selection is ok, then the 32" should also be a great choice. The more extreme downhill you want to do, the more the 29 would be a better choice, both as there are better tires and as it's more wieldly on the steeps. (I love my 29+ for true Downhill).

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Old 2020-01-10, 11:59 PM   #23
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Or maybe I should even look for something in the schlumpf variety?
While the Schlumpf is an incredible piece of machinery and opens up some new dimensions, be aware that this is a whole different animal!!

Be aware that riding a Schlumpf off road requires a much much much higher skill and fitness level.

I bought a Schlumpf a few months ago with the goal of riding high-speed downhill in bike parks as I ride a lot of 29+ and 36" off road. While it has been fun, it is more challenging than I expected and incredibly physically taxing! Also, the added weight is a major disadvantage for muni and downhill. You mentioned jumping and hucking and the Schlumpf is totally the wrong choice for that.
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Old 2020-01-11, 12:08 AM   #24
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I can't wait to use my new KH36 for cross country come spring.
I realize it's more commitment in some ways (wiping out, energy to mount, etc...) but the payoff is the smooth flowy handling that just eats up the miles.

I've always liked my KH29 with the 3 1/4" Crux which made for a 31" diameter (I think). I ride semi-technical muni cross country/all mountain and I'm 6' 3".
I'm sure my 36"er will take over half of my muni rides now.
Even though we've never met, seems like we have been on the same page for quite a while now (I bought my KH29+ the same time as you yours and we both love them).

So what tire will you be riding on your 36? As I mentioned above I continue to be amazed how great the Nightrider Lite is off-road even though it's obvious that in major mud there are no knobs.

I've considered the VeeTire 32x2.25" tire but decided it wouldn't bring so many advantages (slightly narrower and seems to be less volume than the Nightrider) and would be way worse on the road and at present I don't want to have a second wheelset or switch tires frequently, and the Nightrider is perfect for the road and pretty darn good off-road.

I don't ride my 36" on true downhills (I use the 29+ for that), but for my local muni rides I almost always choose my 36 over the 29" unless I absolutely need the extra traction for mud or snow.

So enjoy the 36" on the trails! The 36" is totally a blast and the added momentum really adds a new dimension to rides (banks and berms a awesome!) as well as down-up trail sections where you can maintain speed. After you get a little experince, I recommend trying 125-130mm cranks, as just so much fun.
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Old 2020-01-11, 12:16 AM   #25
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I'm definitely leaning towards a 29. When you say 29+ that's in reference to the larger tires? The KH29 with dual hole 150/127 cranks might just be the ticket.

The schlumpf is about 3lbs right and a normal hub around 1lb, so you're gaining 2lbs of weight? That does seem a bit much. I loved riding the 36, and I always imagined I'd eventually upgrade to a lighter weight disc brake version. So that might still be in my future.
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I did try one before for a few minutes and couldn't get the hang of shifting. I kept missing when I thought I would hit it then I'd finally get it at a time I wasn't expecting and UPD. I also had a hard time overcoming the bizarre sensation of static mounting it in high gear. My brain wanted it to be a 26, and even if I told it to think like I was mounting a bigger unicycle it couldn't seem to figure out how to apply the right pressure to the pedals and I didn't make it anywhere haha.
From my experience if you have some skills and determination, then learing to shift and mount in high gear is not so significant and mostly just a matter of practice.

But learing to deal with the play in high gear is a major gamechanger. My local 3 hour off-road ride on my 36 with 125mm cranks is "normal" for me, with 36/100mm cranks the same tour is then more strenuous but kind of like adding 10% effort both on muscles and cardio (i.e. I hardly relax at all in the 3 hours b/c of the short cranks). But riding the G29 in high gear with 137mm cranks totally kills me even after 2 hours!! I get so tired that I can't even mount any more in high gear (although I could easily at the beginning of the tour). With lots of training I think I could adapt, but I think it is lots and lots of training...
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Old 2020-01-11, 02:18 AM   #27
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I also had a hard time overcoming the bizarre sensation of static mounting it in high gear.
If you mount in low gear, then shift up, then ride, then shift down, then dismount...then you are committing yourself to learning how to shift. The ability to mount in high gear, IMHO, is not a necessary requirement for Schlumpf ownership.
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Old 2020-01-11, 05:35 AM   #28
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If you mount in low gear, then shift up, then ride, then shift down, then dismount...then you are committing yourself to learning how to shift. The ability to mount in high gear, IMHO, is not a necessary requirement for Schlumpf ownership.
ahhh good to know! I won't waste my time on that then haha. I think mostly you just want to see so badly how much faster your uni is going to be. Like trying to skip ahead to the good part.
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Old 2020-01-11, 08:01 AM   #29
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MUCFreerider, too funny about the same page. I've thought the same.

I'll be keeping the standard Nightrider on there.
It's such a treat to ride that I don't even really notice the heavy tire and it is quite grippy.
If something ever came out that had a little more aggressive tread then maybe I might splurge on that.

For cranks I'm a 127mm fan for both my wheels. !50mm just feels too clunky for anything other than sustained super steep climbing.
I'm debating bringing my cranks to a local machinist to add a third set of holes to my Spirits.
I think I'd shoot for 100mm but 110mm might fit the bill too.


Setonix... If you won't sell it then just lend me your Hachet.
Hear me out.

I'll provide her with a great home to stay at.
She'll have my full attention through the winter.
You can come visit her anytime.
Her name would be "Molly" while she's here.
...and I'll buy her plane ticket.

Whadayathink?
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Old 2020-01-11, 01:38 PM   #30
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hi dane m

i have a hatchet and love it too bits, i have it on quax 170 cranks which bend out so the pedals are slightly wider and have not hit my leg on the tyre even once.im tall and weight 100kg and i find it solid and planted,im not the greatest of riders and new to riding off road but just love being on it.i have a nimbus muni 26 which is on a maxxis hookworm which i should swap over to a knobbly so i have something to compare it to really but im sold on my hatchet and well pleased i built one.
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