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Old 2008-05-14, 07:04 AM   #1
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Ride the Lobster Teams- place your bets!

Just wondering which team will win this once in a lifetime event?

I thought it would be fun to start a thread and make a few educated guesses or put some money down on your favourite team (is that allowed?)

So...rank who you think will be the top three teams. And give your reasons.

The teams are available on here:
http://www.ridethelobster.com/race/teams.php

I'll start:

1- Korean Dream Team
2- Texacali
3- The Centurions

I picked the Korean Dream Team...because you expect a Dream Team to do pretty well. They've kept a pretty low profile (I guess this is an English forum after all) so I reckon they'll be the dark horse in the race. They will come out of nowhere to take out all the other teams.

Texacali for second place. Because I like the name

And Centurions for third. I believe I read somewhere that they had more years of unicycling experience than all the other teams combined.

Place your bets!
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Old 2008-05-14, 09:08 AM   #2
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Of the teams other than mine (about which I obviously can't comment!)

Teams that I know are going to be very fast because I've ridden with most of them:

Team NZUNI
Lost Wheelers

Teams I think may be very fast looking at how fast the riders I know in the teams are:
Smile
Yellow Line Fever
Texicali
Team Unicycle.com
Totally Doable

Most of the other teams I have very little idea about speedwise.

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Old 2008-05-14, 12:41 PM   #3
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I've ridden with quite a number of riders here...on various Unitours and at Unicon. I reckon Team NZUNI is in with a chance

But at the risk of jinxing my team, here are the top five excluding Team NZUNI.

1. Team Smile
2. Lost Wheelers
3. Yellow Line Fever
4. Totally Doable
5. Hans Islanders


1. Team Smile has 24hr Record Holder Sam Wakeling riding. He's not only fast over ultra-distance, his cruising speed by all accounts is up there with Roger Davies, who is one of the fastest people I've ridden with. They lose the old master yoda but gain youthful strength in Chuck Edwall. Yes, the guy who destroyed a Schlumpf hub with his thighs. From their postings, and previous results, this team should easily average 25km/hr throughout the whole race. I've not ridden with Des but I believe he's a bit of an animal at the Mountain Mayhem. This is the team to watch.

2. Lost Wheelers are all seasoned riders at long distance events like the 24hr Mountain-Mayhem. I haven't looked back at the results, but from memory, these guys should be hot on the tails of Team Smile. I have only ridden with Paul but if Joe Marshall thinks this is a team to watch, they probably are.

3. We head over the California for our next ranked team. The father and son combination of Nathan and Beau Hoover will be very strong indeed. These guys ride MUni and Coker more than anyone else I know, and same with Unitouring. Their strengths will be on the big climbs. Scott Cooper can really power up them, as can Beau and Nathan.

4. Totally Doable get's a rating in here because of their postings on RSU regarding team practice with Yellow Line Fever. I have only ridden with Mike, but this team is fully into their GUni's. Expect them to give Yellow Line Fever a run for their money, and maybe even come out on top on the flatter stages.

5. Hans Islanders are in with a pretty decent chance coming in the top 5. Tom Olson can climb like a goat. On the Laos Unitour, Tom and Jesper both from Denmark were leading most of the riders up every climb. Singe Jenson is the Womens Marathon World Champ, and would easily beat 3/4 of all the guys out there. The only unknown for me is Todd Sankey...I've not ridden with him or seen any results.

6. Texacali should also be another contender for the top 5. I've put them here in 6 because I have only ridden with Corbin. I know AJ did the MUT, so there should be quite a bit of touring experience as Corbin was on Uninam. I rate Corbin as one of the top riders at RTL, especially if he is as fast on the 36" Sclumpf as he says he is. This guy can really spin! Not really seen him climb but he's small and light so I expect that he'd fly up the climbs. He can certainly descend at speed. I don't know Kevin Chang, but I expect he would be pretty similar in strengths to the other two riders.

Overall, I think Team 3, 4, 5, and 6 are pretty equal. I reckon Team Smile will be streets ahead of everyone else, with Lost Wheelers close behind.

Other teams I expect in the top 10 include: Team Unicycle.com, Team Venus, The Goonies, and German Speeders. I don't know enough about the other teams but I expect there will be quite a few surprises.

It's a pity we don't have any Japanese riders. I can think of several combinations that could quite easily win it, especially if it was a flat race. Also missing is Hour Record Holder and 10km World Champ Patrick Schmid, and Juniour Marathon Champ Dustin Schaap. We're going to miss you!

Would be interesting to see the final result in June.

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Old 2008-05-14, 01:51 PM   #4
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Thanks for those team reviews. It reminds me how many contenders there are - RTL is going to be infested with fast riders. I think Ken (GizmoDuck) shouldn't be so modest, and that NZUni is a favorite for a top three placing here.

Like a couple others have mentioned, it's the folks with hardcore endurance who'll come out on top. Uni tours and 24-hr race experience are good indicators. Also, don't count out older riders or female riders, or older female riders, as youthful, testosterone-full males don't typically dominate the toughest endurance sports.

Another field-leveling factor may come into play, too, and that's bad weather. If Mother Nature is cranky that week, wind and cold and rain could take some teams down a notch or two, giving a better chance to the riders who've trained in inclement conditions. Geared unis will lose some of their advantage in that case, too.

While my team "Personal Rollercoaster" is a long shot for the podium, we have a decent shot at top ten in RTL. We've all done 24 hr muni races, and Roland and I have a lot of big mountain-climb races under our collective belt.

In fact, we're muni'ing in 3 days in another 24 hr MTB race, the "Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous". My whole team (Vincelemay, rolandisimo, steveyo), plus another RTL rider, Perry from Team Balance (capuni), comprise a 4-muni team in this weekend's race. At the very least, it will be huge fun, and definitely an awesome workout a month before the "big event".
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Old 2008-05-14, 04:33 PM   #5
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What Gizmoduck said, for sure, but there are other strong riders in the mix, as well as a ton of unknowns, from whom we really don't know what to expect. The Koreans only qualified to qualify based on speed among their fellow Korean riders. Some "new" riders may have bike racing or other athletic backgrounds helping them out.

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1- Korean Dream Team
2- Texacali
3- The Centurions
That's very kind of you. The Centurions have 101 years of riding experience between the three of us. We're not slow either. Our oldest member, Dave White, has won the 10k race at NAUCC (Memphis, 2006) He beat everybody, including Irene! David Stone is famous, among other things, for Coker commuting in New York City (eating sushi while talking on the cell phone while riding). I'm a past world champion of racing, but those were all short races. Until Unicon XIII, the longest unicycle race I'd been in was 9 miles (which I won the first time, and tied with Andy Cotter and Dustin Kelm the second time). Who knows how we'll do?

Kudos for the organizers (Nathan Hoover, Andy Cotter and the guys in NS) for inventing an event where there are no obvious dominant teams. The whole thing is just so huge and unprecedented, it'll be an honor to be part of it.
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Old 2008-05-14, 04:43 PM   #6
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Just wondering which team will win this once in a lifetime event?
Win in what sense? I'm pretty sure The Old Peculiers are in the running for "Most beer consumed while riding".


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Old 2008-05-14, 04:58 PM   #7
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Of the teams other than mine (about which I obviously can't comment!)
I'll comment for you then. Team Goonies looks awesome.

Team NZuni will win first place. That was my original prediction, but now that I found out that Sam will be on the same team as Chuck (geared 36) I am starting to wonder how it will work out.

I am hoping that Team Goonies finishes top 10, but it is going to be tough to finish in the top third of the teams since so many of the teams look strong.
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Old 2008-05-14, 06:21 PM   #8
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I'm betting on the richest team.

Which ever one has the most expensive, geared uni.
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We've done some time trials with different unicycles. A geared 36, a geared 29er, and a single-speed 36er. We consistently found that the rider was far more important than the cycle.

There's no amount of money you can put into a unicycle to make you a fit and fast unicyclist. Between a geared unicycle and an ungeared one, my money is on the one with the stronger rider.

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Which ever one has the most expensive, geared uni.
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Yes, but a team of geared uni's has a crazy advantage over non-geared.
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From my experience, that's not the case. I think geared unicycles have an advantage but only in certain scenarios, and definitely not a "crazy" one.

Geared-unicycles also have liabilities. They're heavier, have some energy loss, and time lost trying to shift results in being passed.

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Old 2008-05-14, 06:52 PM   #12
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I'll comment for you then. Team Goonies looks awesome.
Well, of course we do. But we need more than just our rugged good looks to get us a top place

STM - Placing a virtual tenner on Team Smile
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Old 2008-05-14, 06:57 PM   #13
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Team(s) I think well win because of their awesome name(s):
1. Hans Islanders

'nuff said.
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Yes, but a team of geared uni's has a crazy advantage over non-geared.
I wonder why you think so. Geared unicycles do great on the flat and downhill, but the efficiency drops off quickly at the first sign of an upslope. RTL is not flat.
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Yes, but a team of geared uni's has a crazy advantage over non-geared.
Geared or ungeared, you do the same amount of working moving from point A to point B. The guni may go faster, but they'll be more tired after a given amount of time riding, too. This race is about speed, but also, hugely, about endurance.
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