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Old 2016-04-26, 03:56 AM   #16
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Yum. For a few years now, I considered my "next" unicycle to be a KH 26 with disc (leaving room for future Schlumpf hub). Now I have to make a decision. I already have a 29" and, at least with the rims and tires I've used, don't like it for the technical stuff. Reading the copy on the KH website, Kris seems to relate wheel size mostly to rider size, in terms of what will work best (plus terrain). 27.5 might be too close to my 29", but 26" might also be kind of similar to my old Wilder with 24 x 3" tire. Hmmm.

For the moment, I think I'm still in the 26" camp, as a replacement for my "classic" Wilder (lovingly depicted at the end of Kris' book). It will be my Muni for pounding the hard stuff, while my 29", if I ever ride it again, will still be great for the milder trails that are still too technical for a 36".

This is not to be negative about the new 27.5, oh no! It looks like an excellent size to fill the gap there, and to fit the many riders who will love that wheel size and fit.
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Old 2016-04-26, 06:15 AM   #17
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The 27.5+ tire has an outer diameter thats nearly the same as of a 29x2.2 or so. So it's basically a 29er with more suspension. If the 29er is too big for you, the 27.5+ probably will also be. Or you change it's tire by a smaller one and lose some suspension.
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Old 2016-04-26, 05:55 PM   #18
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this is what I'm thinking is that the 27.5 is too close to the 29. But that frame would be quite flexible. You could fit a 26, 27.5 or 29 in it. Still havent made up my mind.
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Old 2016-04-26, 08:30 PM   #19
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For muni, 27.5+ is indeed an exciting size. Being the outside diameter is that of the 29" could prove to be the Goldilocks size. It's a bonus that the biking world really thinks so too at this point.

The 29 size frequently focused on being lightweight at the expense of sidewall stiffness. Up until 29+ hit there wasn't a good selection of decent volume tires in the 29 rim size. 29+ is fun, but it is a bit big for technical situations. 27.5+ should prove to be about as fast as a 29 with a less XC and more Trail and Enduro emphasis on tires. This is good for us unicyclists.

I don't have a 27.5+ yet, but have been riding a 26+ since last summer. It too is a great size. Since the first ride I was very impressed. It is a bit smaller than the 29er for sure, but right away I found myself clearing rock gardens and technical sections that had given me difficulty for a long time. Although there aren't a whole lot of 26+ tires available at this point, the selection will be significantly increasing in this size as more bikes are embracing this size for smaller riders.

Having KH unis available (27.5+, 26+, and 29+) that are rolling with the current trends in the bicycling world is win. It not only allows us a better selection of tires, but it also increases the interest of mountain bikers when we stop to High 5 them on the trail. I've had several biking friends take up unicycling recently. They aren't put off by the price of high end unicycles at all. The fact we have great looking, strong, functional equipment available at a fraction of the price of a high end bike piques their interest in a hurry.

27.5+ It looks like it's time to (at the minimum) build another wheel...
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Old 2016-04-26, 09:19 PM   #20
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What is a 26+? Will I regret putting down good money for a kh26 when apparently 26ers are on the way out? Or is that just hype? Do we expect to see plenty of tire selection for years in the 26? That is one of the reasons I ditched the 24.
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Old 2016-04-26, 09:24 PM   #21
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What is a 26+? Will I regret putting down good money for a kh26 when apparently 26ers are on the way out? Or is that just hype? Do we expect to see plenty of tire selection for years in the 26? That is one of the reasons I ditched the 24.
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"Normal" tires are the ones up to 2.5" or so
+ tires are the ones from 2.8" to about 3.5"
FAT tires are the ones over 3.5" up to 5" or more.

So 26+ is just a normal 26er Muni with a 3" Duro or so ...
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Old 2016-04-27, 08:17 AM   #23
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I made a diagram for tire sizes:


Same color means same rim diameter.

As it is in german, here are the transations:
Außendurchmesser - outer diameter
Einradtyp - type of unicycle
Einsatzgebiet - application
Federung - suspension
Felgengröße - rim diameter
Geschwindigkeit - speed
Halle - gym
Kinder - children
Reifenbreite - tire width
Rennen - race
Rennhexe - race witch
Rollwiderstand - rolling resistance
Schnee - snow
Straße - road
Verkaufsbezeichnung - name as marketed
Wendigkeit - maneuverability/ nimbleness
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Old 2016-04-27, 09:07 AM   #24
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What is a 26+? Will I regret putting down good money for a kh26 when apparently 26ers are on the way out? Or is that just hype? Do we expect to see plenty of tire selection for years in the 26? That is one of the reasons I ditched the 24.
I'm on the wrong path then. I've got a 26' (2.5 tyre) and it is great but (due to my lack of skills) I find some bits of trails I 'd like to do a bit too challenging for me with the 26'.. so now I'm thinking I could do with a smaller wheel: I should get a 24' with the 3' to tackle those and improve my skills (never tried a 24')
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I made a diagram for tire sizes:


Same color means same rim diameter.

As it is in german, here are the transations:
Außendurchmesser - outer diameter
Einradtyp - type of unicycle
Einsatzgebiet - application
Federung - suspension
Felgengröße - rim diameter
Geschwindigkeit - speed
Halle - gym
Kinder - children
Reifenbreite - tire width
Rennen - race
Rennhexe - race witch
Rollwiderstand - rolling resistance
Schnee - snow
Straße - road
Verkaufsbezeichnung - name as marketed
Wendigkeit - maneuverability/ nimbleness
Great work! Thanks Eric, makes things clearer
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As much as I want to try the 27.5 seems like the 26 would be more suited for muni and short ur an commuting for me given that I'm 5'7". Most people agree that the 27.5 is too close to the 29. Plus the idea may be to add a geared hub so eday. Will I have a good tire choice for many years? I understand the 26 wheel size is dying in the bike world but as unicyclists we are more aensitive to small differences in wheel sizes. When will the new kh unis be in stock at udc?
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You really think 26" is dying?
24" might be as it was always a weird size, between trial and kid bikes.
But apart from hardcore mountain bikers who want to have the latest gear, all I see when I go out are 26".

27.5 must be great on xc, light muni. It's the size of a 29" yet with way more cushioning from the tire.
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UDC.uk is also annoncing a Nimbus Oracle 27.5" !
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UDC.uk is also annoncing a Nimbus Oracle 27.5" !
I had no idea. Cool. I am interested to try the flat saddle though. And I want the flexibility of being able to try a geared hub at some point. Though I must say my Oracle 36 is one of the best unis I ever owned.
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