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Old 2013-08-12, 05:37 PM   #1
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What would you take with you to a 30km ride on 36er?

Hi All,

In about a month from now I plan to attend a sport event of 30km road ride.
Since that is my first long ride (I ride 20km each day from home to work and back), I wanted to ask for your opinion on which minimal equipment I should take with me in my backpack.

I currently have the following equipment on a daily basis in my backpack:

1- One liter of water
2- Multi-tool
3- Hand pump
4- First Aid bag

What should I keep or get rid of?
Is there anything else I need to take with me?

Weight is of course a big issue and I'd like to have as little weight as possible.

Thanks,
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Old 2013-08-12, 06:12 PM   #2
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5 Identification
6 tire tools/patch kit
7 money
8 a small snack or energy bar
9 mobile phone/camera

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Old 2013-08-12, 06:40 PM   #3
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What Glen said plus more water.

I would consider using a camel pack or equivalent for your water and a small under-seat pouch for whatever you can fit in it (tools, snacks, etc). The more you can get under your seat the less is on your back.

You could even strap the pump to the frame behind a fork.

EDIT: depending what other tools you have you might be able to leave the multi-tool at home. One or two allen wrenches is sometimes all you need for any trail side repair that you are likely to make.
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Old 2013-08-12, 06:43 PM   #4
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Maybe I live dangerously, but I do 20 mile rides with only a water bottle and a cell phone.

I've got some tools and a pump in the car, but I don't take that stuff with me on the ride. If you tighten all the bolts before you leave, you won't have to tighten many on the road.

Pack light!
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Old 2013-08-12, 07:08 PM   #5
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1. Spare tube, pump and tyre lever. Patches can be difficult to apply when
you're caught in the rain.
2. Appropriate allen wrenches.
3. Water cage under seat. Water is quite heavy so it's better to carry it on the
frame.
4. Snack food.
5. First aid kit.
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Old 2013-08-12, 08:08 PM   #6
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Just a camelback with 1 liter water, wallet and cell phone.
I don´t need any food for a 2 hour ride.

Most of the time I dont carry tools. There is not much that can go wrong with a uni.
That being said, one time I had to walk back 10 km with a flat tire.
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Old 2013-08-12, 08:43 PM   #7
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my packlist for a 36er ride


1l water in bottle cage
flapjack/fruit pastilles/glucose tablets (on a 30 miler just glucose)
phone
4,5,6mm hex keys (6 only if you have a shadow bar)
ipod
bank card+£5 note
id

on a road ride, first aid kits can be found in many cars passing you and the possibility of puncturing a TA (which i assume you ride from your profile pic) is rather small. In the case that something goes wrong, you are unlikely to be that far from a bike shop that can patch you up.
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Old 2013-08-12, 09:27 PM   #8
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I ask myself which parts are the most likely to break? The problem is I don't know. Also, maybe some wire, zipties and scotch tape as they are all fairly light and could allow you to rig something up good enough to get home in the event of a minor failure.
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Old 2013-08-13, 12:08 AM   #9
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I have a bag on the back of my 36er that carries all of my tools. I never take it off, so I've always got this stuff with me. Inside it's got:

Small hand pump
Spare 2 oz. bottle of Stans
Some patches
Small band aids
A pedal wrench
Folding allen wrench set
10 mm wrench
Spoke Key
Zip ties
And then usually a baggie with my wallet, cell phone, and keys in it.

I plan to start commuting to work in the next couple of weeks, and will go from my current 2-3 liter hydro pack set up to a water bottle or dual water bottle set up since I'll only be riding ~8 miles a day.
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Old 2013-08-13, 06:14 AM   #10
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More than 1 litre of water. Isn't it hot there? It gets pretty hot here! And a bit of food.

I always ride with a little pump, though there's no way I'm likely to be able to fix a flat on my 36". It's reeeely hard to get the tire off the rim, even with decent tire levers! It gets used more for other rides, or other riders along the trail.

I also recommend a camera, if you're into such things.
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Old 2013-08-13, 04:06 PM   #11
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I keep my back pack stocked year round, not much changes except for water level, extra clothes, and extra food. I have a basic first aid kit, E blanket, tools, a few spare parts, sometimes a tube, a camera on and off, an E light.

About the only extra parts I have used are a spare grab handle and a spare seat post clamp/adjustable seat post bolts. I have broken all of the above on rides, it's hard to ride without a handle, but that's nothing compared to riding with a seat

For sure you need a liter an hour, start with good hydration before the ride and maintain good hydration after the ride. Even with good hydration, there are times when I cannot keep my fluid intake equal to my sweat, so I end up dehydrated and spend the next day hydrating. I've lost as much as 5# of fluid over a long hot ride; about 2 liters.
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Old 2013-08-14, 01:17 AM   #12
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More than 1 litre of water. Isn't it hot there? It gets pretty hot here! And a bit of food.

I always ride with a little pump, though there's no way I'm likely to be able to fix a flat on my 36". It's reeeely hard to get the tire off the rim, even with decent tire levers! It gets used more for other rides, or other riders along the trail.

I also recommend a camera, if you're into such things.
John, this is very interesting, and I think the first time I've seen someone say the 36" wheel is basically unrepairable on the trail if it goes flat.

I'm keen on this topic since I'm planning a 240 mile (386 km) unicycle-camping trip. I've got a spare 36" tube, but decided it wasn't worth carrying (space is at a premium). But I am planning to take a pump, patch kit, and tire levers...I'm wondering now if even that is worth it.
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Old 2013-08-14, 02:48 AM   #13
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I'm planning a 240 mile (386 km) unicycle-camping trip.
Are you doing the Katy trail?
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Old 2013-08-14, 04:46 AM   #14
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John, this is very interesting, and I think the first time I've seen someone say the 36" wheel is basically unrepairable on the trail if it goes flat.

I'm keen on this topic since I'm planning a 240 mile (386 km) unicycle-camping trip. I've got a spare 36" tube, but decided it wasn't worth carrying (space is at a premium). But I am planning to take a pump, patch kit, and tire levers...I'm wondering now if even that is worth it.
I agree with John. I cannot repair a Nightrider tire with plastic tire irons--I ended up buying special oversized metal ones to allow me to pry the tire off the hub. I do not take these long and heavy tire irons on my rides. If I get a flat I walk home--it has only happened once, and it was a nice 5 mile walk. If I wanted to go half way, I would bring a small pump and some Stans sealant with the appropriate injector. That way I would have some possibility of fixing a tire on the road.

If I were going on a long ride I would put together a credible repair package, but I would probably bring along a support vehicle to carry it.

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John, this is very interesting, and I think the first time I've seen someone say the 36" wheel is basically unrepairable on the trail if it goes flat.
Some 36" rim/tire combinations might not be so tight but the ones I've had are all pretty hard to mount and unmount. To the point where I'll pay the bike shop to do tires on my old Coker (with Airfoil rim).

I do own a big metal tire lever, though I haven't used it yet. I might consider bringing it if I were to do a long, unsupported ride. But at the same time, I am reminded that all the 36" tires on the market are pretty tough, and flats are pretty rare, for me at least. I've never had one on a 36". Murphy's Law suggests otherwise, but so far I've been okay without having to change a tire... knock-knock.
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