The Hunter meets the Muniac - Page 2

Frank A. · 2004-02-12, 01:59 PM

Scott,
Thanks, I'll be looking forward to that. It will finish things off nicely.

U-turn,
I hung the cycle from a digital fish wieghing scale (accuracy?)and without the brakes it registered 14.2 lbs. I've got a heavy downhill tube in there.
The complete Muniac set up (hub,bearings, cranks, bolts) before build up weighs 2.56 lbs. on a digital postal scale.
Weight savings wasn't my main consideration in this build-up, but I'll take it.

Gerble...

Yeah, Hunters rock!

Tommy,
Sorry

Chirokid,
Hopefully, that'll never happen.

The car is loaded up and I'll be on the trails this afternoon after work.

teachndad · 2004-02-12, 06:07 PM

Frank,

that is very sweet, yep. Light weight. Very very cool.

A few months ago I emailed Rick about making a light weight frame. He called it a LS model and was willing to build one. He estimated the weight when finished would be @2 lbs. Did you ask him for a light weight frame, or the one he usually builds?

Thanks

Frank A. · 2004-02-12, 07:32 PM

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Originally posted by teachndad
Frank,

that is very sweet, yep. Light weight. Very very cool.

A few months ago I emailed Rick about making a light weight frame. He called it a LS model and was willing to build one. He estimated the weight when finished would be @2 lbs. Did you ask him for a light weight frame, or the one he usually builds?

Thanks

Hi Rod,
No, I didn't ask for a lighter frame. I didn't weigh this new frame but I have weighed my 26" Hunter on a digital postal scale. It weighed 2.24 lbs and that has the old style canti bosses on it.
So, I guess my new one would be pretty close to 2.0 lbs, the 26" is quite a bit longer.

You really can't go wrong with a frame from Rick. By the way, I didn't see your e-mail til a few days ago. I answered you, sorry it took so long.

- Frank

U-Turn · 2004-02-12, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Frank A.
I hung the cycle from a digital fish wieghing scale (accuracy?)and without the brakes it registered 14.2 lbs. I've got a heavy downhill tube in there.
The complete Muniac set up (hub,bearings, cranks, bolts) before build up weighs 2.56 lbs. on a digital postal scale.
Weight savings wasn't my main consideration in this build-up, but I'll take it.

Thanks, Frank! I'm sure Joe Merrill will be interested in that number as well. My 26" Pashley with Suzue hub and Doublewide rim, CF seat and Reeder handle, heavy tube and Gazz Jr. weighs about 16 lbs.

merrill · 2004-02-13, 03:11 PM

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Thanks, Frank! I'm sure Joe Merrill will be interested in that number as well.

Yeah, this is useful information.

Quote:

Originally posted by Frank A.
I hung the cycle from a digital fish wieghing scale (accuracy?)and without the brakes it registered 14.2 lbs. I've got a heavy downhill tube in there. Weight savings wasn't my main consideration in this build-up, but I'll take it.

When I build mine, I'm going with a fireball and will try a lighter tube. I expect mine will hopefully weigh around 12 lbs by going with the following:

Wilder frame - save 1/2 lb?
Fireball - save 1 lb?
Lighter tube - save 1/4 lb?
Lighter seat post (no brake mount) - save 1/4 lb?

Does that sound right?

Theoretically, I think I could take another 1/2 lb or more off with various mods to the seat, but that will come later.

Frank, Are using a carbon fiber seat base?

Joe

Frank A. · 2004-02-13, 04:28 PM

Joe,
Yes, I'm using a carbon fibre base with a Leather Gemcrest cover. The Wilder seat post adapters are a bit on the heavy side but the Thomson posts are pretty light.

I think you'd be able to reach that weight, the difference between the Gazz and Fireball is pretty substantial. The difference between the Wilder frame and the Hunter is probably a little bit more than 1/2lb. I weighed a Wilder once and with the bearing holders and screws, but no post collar, it weighed 1.42 lbs. My Hunter is at least 2.0lbs.

- Frank

Frank A. · 2004-02-14, 05:12 PM

Rod and Joe,
I was able to weigh the Hunter frame on the digital scale at the UPS store. This is with the bottom bearing holders and bolts, but no seat collar.
2.14lbs.

So Joe, you'll be that much closer to you desired weight, it's nearly a 3/4 lb. difference from the Wilder.

Rod,
My spec was a 6" seat tube and the Magura mounts. I don't think you'd notice .14lbs. but at least you've got the info to help you decide.

- Frank

2004-02-12, 01:59 PM	#16
Frank A. downsizing Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: So. Fla. Age: 55 Posts: 345	Scott, Thanks, I'll be looking forward to that. It will finish things off nicely. U-turn, I hung the cycle from a digital fish wieghing scale (accuracy?)and without the brakes it registered 14.2 lbs. I've got a heavy downhill tube in there. The complete Muniac set up (hub,bearings, cranks, bolts) before build up weighs 2.56 lbs. on a digital postal scale. Weight savings wasn't my main consideration in this build-up, but I'll take it. Gerble... Yeah, Hunters rock! Tommy, Sorry Chirokid, Hopefully, that'll never happen. The car is loaded up and I'll be on the trails this afternoon after work. __________________ "Man's maturity: to have regained the seriousness that he had as a child at play." - FRIEDRICH NIETZSCHE, Beyond Good and Evil

2004-02-12, 06:07 PM	#17
teachndad ONE for the...Off Road Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: West San Fernando Valley, Southern California Posts: 1,076	Frank, that is very sweet, yep. Light weight. Very very cool. A few months ago I emailed Rick about making a light weight frame. He called it a LS model and was willing to build one. He estimated the weight when finished would be @2 lbs. Did you ask him for a light weight frame, or the one he usually builds? Thanks __________________ Rod Wylie

2004-02-13, 04:28 PM	#21
Frank A. downsizing Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: So. Fla. Age: 55 Posts: 345	Joe, Yes, I'm using a carbon fibre base with a Leather Gemcrest cover. The Wilder seat post adapters are a bit on the heavy side but the Thomson posts are pretty light. I think you'd be able to reach that weight, the difference between the Gazz and Fireball is pretty substantial. The difference between the Wilder frame and the Hunter is probably a little bit more than 1/2lb. I weighed a Wilder once and with the bearing holders and screws, but no post collar, it weighed 1.42 lbs. My Hunter is at least 2.0lbs. - Frank __________________ "Man's maturity: to have regained the seriousness that he had as a child at play." - FRIEDRICH NIETZSCHE, Beyond Good and Evil Last edited by Frank A.; 2004-02-13 at 04:29 PM.

2004-02-14, 05:12 PM	#22
Frank A. downsizing Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: So. Fla. Age: 55 Posts: 345	Rod and Joe, I was able to weigh the Hunter frame on the digital scale at the UPS store. This is with the bottom bearing holders and bolts, but no seat collar. 2.14lbs. So Joe, you'll be that much closer to you desired weight, it's nearly a 3/4 lb. difference from the Wilder. Rod, My spec was a 6" seat tube and the Magura mounts. I don't think you'd notice .14lbs. but at least you've got the info to help you decide. - Frank __________________ "Man's maturity: to have regained the seriousness that he had as a child at play." - FRIEDRICH NIETZSCHE, Beyond Good and Evil

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