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Old 2012-03-06, 07:25 PM   #31
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I just picked up a few mid fat 26er tires to try out, a Duro Savage 2.6, an Intense 2.35, and an Ardent 2.6 3D
I like the sound of mid fat. Let us know which one you prefer.
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a 26er is a safer bet for developing muni skills.
I'm convinced. I will now attempt to move this discussion back over to the "official" MUni Tyre Review thread where it belongs. As I move forward with my purchase decisions I'm thinking about building my stable from the ground up. I might get a 26" Oracle in April purpose built (rides like a 24x3") to contrast a future XC 29" Oracle next year.
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Old 2013-07-02, 12:49 AM   #32
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The ageless question. Now that I have my 36 I never use my 29 for road riding. The 29 is my muni, but I am 5'8 and the 29 has always felt a bit big on the trail, esp. uphill. So I am thinking of selling it and getting either a 24 or 26. I don't muni that much and don't do super technical, but some pretty rooty steep hills. I am thinking a 26, or would that be so close to a 29 that it wouldn't be worth the change?
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Old 2013-07-02, 01:24 AM   #33
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I really dont like the 24 for riding but hopping around and such its great, but for riding on the trails is painfully slow :/ i would say a 26
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Old 2013-07-02, 01:28 AM   #34
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The ageless question. Now that I have my 36 I never use my 29 for road riding. The 29 is my muni, but I am 5'8 and the 29 has always felt a bit big on the trail, esp. uphill. So I am thinking of selling it and getting either a 24 or 26. I don't muni that much and don't do super technical, but some pretty rooty steep hills. I am thinking a 26, or would that be so close to a 29 that it wouldn't be worth the change?
My 26" and 24" feel pretty much the same to me; the 24" has a slightly bigger tire (2.6" vs. 2.5") but not hugely so. The 29" feels like an entirely different ride, much klutzier on anything technical, harder to hop, harder to mount on tricky terrain, harder to maneuver, it's just a different animal. But a lot faster.

I use the 29" for easier XC type trails; people certainly ride tough terrain on 29", but I wouldn't worry about a 26" being "so close to a 29 that it wouldn't be worth the change".
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Old 2013-07-02, 01:43 AM   #35
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I am thinking I can use my 36 with the 150 holes for easier XC muni. I feel like I have a lot of control with the longer cranks and the 36 so that's why I am thinking the 29 may be a waste of space at this point (as much as I like the uni).

For those of you with both a 26 and a 29, do you notice much of a difference up hill on rocky, rooty trails between the two, or is it a wash?
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Old 2013-07-02, 01:43 AM   #36
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I was wondering if anyones jumps a 29 in particular a fat 29 and rides them of drops and jumps because if anyone does im thinking about getting one
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Old 2013-07-02, 01:57 AM   #37
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I once successfully hopped up maybe 10 fairly high wooden steps near a dock with munimag as my witness. It took a few tries. It's not easy though, esp for a smaller guy like me, and especially when you are tired. It's a big wheel for that kind of thing, and you can feel the flex in the rim.

I wouldn't call it fun to hop on the 29. It's really not made for that kind of riding. I've found the 29 is fun for downhill to flats to some steepish uphills, but once it gets past a certain point in terms of steepness and esp with roots and rocks in the way it's hard to maintain the momentum. Plenty of people do amazing things on the 29, but it takes perhaps more time to practice than I have time for at this point in my life. I think I'd be better off with a smaller wheel when doing muni.
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I was wondering about large drops and skinnes
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Old 2013-07-02, 02:22 AM   #39
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I think there are some videos of unigeezer doing some pretty large drops on a 29. It's certainly possible. The KH and Nimbus rims are pretty strong, but again a smaller wheel is obviously meant more for that kind of thing.

Though a 29 is really fun for rolling-oriented riding.

BTW, I fit my 36er with handlebar in the backseat of my Mazda3 (with a carseat and a booster seat). It was tight, but it is certainly possible with the passenger seat pulled up all the way. So, I really see no reason now for using a 29 on almost any kind of road riding, at least the kind I do. That 36 is just so sweet, esp, with the 127mm cranks.
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I don't hop my 29er much, but lately I've been doing a lot more drops and riding off of rocks. The biggest I've done on it though was only around 3 feet. I think that on any wheel size you can get comfortable enough on it to hop it or do drops etc. You just have to put in the time to get used to it.
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how much do you weight if you dont mind me asking?
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Old 2013-07-02, 02:47 AM   #42
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200 lbs. I do have to run a bit higher psi, but that's due in part to the HD I'm running and it's being tubeless. I'm riding a Drak and it seems to built like a tank. Steel frame, D2 rim, Nimbus hub, etc. all seem pretty bomb proof.
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Old 2013-07-02, 02:49 AM   #43
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I am thinking I can use my 36 with the 150 holes for easier XC muni. I feel like I have a lot of control with the longer cranks and the 36 so that's why I am thinking the 29 may be a waste of space at this point (as much as I like the uni).
I went through this same thing about 2 years ago. After I got my 36, I sold my 29" and my 24" munis and built a 26 thinking I would use the 26 for "real" muni and the 36 for easier trails. It worked out great. Fast forward a year and a half, I was curious about a 29" again, built one and found it more fun than the 26" for many of my local trails. Now I have a 26", 29" and 36" and all get ridden off-road. There is some overlap between them (and the 26" gets ridden the least) but I don't consider any of them a waste of space at this point.

This little story was what was behind my reply to your question about getting a smaller muni. If you sell the 29" now you may end up looking for another in a year or two. You'll probably pay more but may get some new tech. Or you could just hang the current KH29 up while you switch to the 36 and smaller wheel, it will be waiting for you to come back to it.
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ok, i am kinda thinking i want one but i like to jump and do drops and like short tec terrain at the moment
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Old 2013-07-02, 09:50 PM   #45
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I've got a 24x3 muni and a 26x2.35 guni. For rough downhill terrain the 24er is faster and more fun, everywhere else the 26 is better. The tire volume makes the biggest difference.
A fairer comparison would be both with a 3 inch tire. Then I guess it would come down to the 24er begin more agile and the 26er maybe being a bit faster but heavier.
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