SAM - Zero Emission Vehicle

[Seager]

I dunno man, I see nuclear as an extremely short sighted solution. Anything that creates waste that will be around for tens of thousands of years, in leaking, cracking concrete bunkers, is by no means a real alternative.

Especially when you consider that societies and empires generally don't last several thousand years - how many different governments will inherit and possibly forget about maintaining those waste disposal units?

[Danni]

Solar, wind, tidal and geothermal is the way to go. A deep geothermal plant could produce enough electricity for a whole city.

[de.bengel]

Originally Posted by Hazmat

Is it possible to have 1 custom made???

Some guy has bought all the remaining bodies when the original company went belly-up. You can now get one with Li-Ion instead of lead-acid batteries, doubling the range. But at $30K, I think I'll pass.

[Hazmat]

Originally Posted by de.bengel

Some guy has bought all the remaining bodies when the original company went belly-up. You can now get one with Li-Ion instead of lead-acid batteries, doubling the range. But at $30K, I think I'll pass.

I wouldn't cause it would work out better in the long run. Considering where petrol prices are heading.


So you got to look at things from outside the circle. So to speak.

[thejdw]

Originally Posted by Danni

A deep geothermal plant could produce enough electricity for a whole city.

Think how much that would cost though.

[Hazmat]

Originally Posted by thejdw

Think how much that would cost though.

So, you're willing to pay alot for petrol/burning oils. Rather then look for the alternative sources???

[explosionsq]

Originally Posted by Danni

Solar, wind, tidal and geothermal is the way to go. A deep geothermal plant could produce enough electricity for a whole city.

I agree with you partially. I feel that the future of sustainable energy will come from using solar or wind power to generate power from hydrogen.

[surfer1024]

it emits rubber as the tire wears down.

[john_childs]

Originally Posted by explosionsq

I agree with you partially. I feel that the future of sustainable energy will come from using solar or wind power to generate power from hydrogen.

How do you rely on solar and wind power? What if it is a cloudy day or the wind isn't blowing?

Solar and wind are fine as a supplementary source. You just can't rely on them too heavily on them or you'll come up short on cloudy and windless days.

[explosionsq]

Originally Posted by john_childs

How do you rely on solar and wind power? What if it is a cloudy day or the wind isn't blowing?

Solar and wind are fine as a supplementary source. You just can't rely on them too heavily on them or you'll come up short on cloudy and windless days.

Most photovalic cell technology has the ability to store energy, same with the more recent wind turbines. If the turbines stop turning, the power doesn't go away. Also, these sources(at least according to the idea I'm supporting) don't provide the power directly. They use it to generate even more power from hydrogen.

[Seager]

Originally Posted by john_childs

How do you rely on solar and wind power? What if it is a cloudy day or the wind isn't blowing?

Solar and wind are fine as a supplementary source. You just can't rely on them too heavily on them or you'll come up short on cloudy and windless days.

You put them in places where the wind never stops blowing, like the coast or Wyoming, or where the sun never stops shining, like phoenix. With enough turbines and cells in key places around each state is should take care of much of our issues, without creating nuclear waste. States with coastlines can use wave power, assuming their placed somewhere that won't mess too much with aquatic life.

[wobbling bear]

Originally Posted by Hazmat

Is it possible to have 1 custom made???

Cause if not, there are alternatives that may be found.
1) Peel P50.
2) Peel Trident.
3) BMW Isetta 500.
4) Campagna T-Rex
5) Yamaha Vmax Powered 3 Wheeler
6) RTM Tango 3 wheel scooter.

as far as I remember the Isetta Velam was not a BMW thing ...
there was also the Voisin in Spain and the Messerchmitt in Germany.
now we can see more and more of these in Paris

[MrBoogiejuice]

Originally Posted by john_childs

How do you rely on solar and wind power? What if it is a cloudy day or the wind isn't blowing?

You could ask the Danes. Forbes has named Denmark the best country to do business in several times in large part due to their energy independence that comes as a result of having an incredibly well thought out, robust grid and very low dependence on imported energy due to their high usage of renewables.

Originally Posted by john_childs

Solar and wind are fine as a supplementary source. You just can't rely on them too heavily on them or you'll come up short on cloudy and windless days.

These conundrums can be solved by placing more emphasis on thinking about the storage and movement of electricity rather than the individual merits of one energy source over another. A move away from centralised, one way energy flows towards decentralised, two way production and storage of energy can have a far greater impact on energy security and emissions than the wholesale shift from one source to another whilst retaining a centralised production and distribution system.

There's great potential to provide the storage necessary to maintain supply levels throughout the daily demand curve whilst favouring renewables if transport and energy production are linked together. An electric vehicle fleet for personal transport provides huge potential storage capacity at precisely the times demand is lowest. If we were able to plug our electric cars into a two-way socket on the wall at home to charge over night we'd have enormous capacity to store the renewable energy generated at the times there is least demand.

Fossil fuelled plants struggle to deal with the problem of providing energy at the times when it's most needed. Many plants spend the majority of their time not producing energy at all, only coming online during times of peak demand. It's an incredibly wasteful and uneconomic arrangement. The biggest issue of any energy infrastructure is how to get the energy to where it's needed at the right time but it's something of a fallacy that fossil fuels or nuclear are more able to address this problem than renewable sources.

Of course there are enormous hurdles in achieving such wholesale changes in transport, grid and production infrastructure. There are limited amounts of the materials needed to produce electric vehicles and many of them lie in the ground of countries that wouldn't necessarily have an interest in releasing their limited supplies onto the world market, not to mention the lack of political will and potential investment capital to make these changes happen.

[DrLightWind]

There is one I just made on is on the horizon which is aerodynamic.
The Pulse Hybrid which resembles to an F14 Fighter Jet and street legal tandem with sliding canopy.
It has a Peak up to 30KW peaks front hub motor with regenerative braking.
The rear has an independent suspension with optional tilt body & wheels,
driven with a racing motorcycle engine which is also capable to run on ethanol.
This is an idea to get a long distance when needed and to be environmentally friendly without plugging in and waiting to charge.
I just started testing it without the body

Bela