Camelbak Antidote Bladder leaks?

[teachndad]

Hi,

My Ultimate Direction hydration pack that's 8 years old is wearing out, and I am looking for a pack that doesn't hold the sweat as much. I have started looking at the Camelbak MULE NVIS as a replacement.

Having read the reviews, I find a lot of negative reviews for the new Antidote bladder. Anyone having leak issues at the quick connection or the lid?

Thanks

Rod

[Feisty]

Originally Posted by teachndad

Hi,

My Ultimate Direction hydration pack that's 8 years old is wearing out, and I am looking for a pack that doesn't hold the sweat as much. I have started looking at the Camelbak MULE NVIS as a replacement.

Having read the reviews, I find a lot of negative reviews for the new Antidote bladder. Anyone having leak issues at the quick connection or the lid?

Thanks

Rod

I have a Lobo and my mate has a Mule but both with the older bladder, I had to get a replacement bladder but hunted for an old style one as I also heard bad things about the new ones detachable hose leaking due tp any pressure from being inside the bag (and on the Lobo it is very tight at that point with a full bladder and packed with tools etc).

The Mule has a lot more room though so that might not be as much as a problem.

Camel backs are awesome though and their bladder warranty is second to none!

[Dartmech]

I have a Lobo (i think) with the 3L new style bladder and haven't had any problems at all. I've been pretty rough with it too and had it loaded with tools and various items. No leaks yet. I haven't done any landing flat on my back but I know I've rolled over on it a time or two. I say go for it. I bought it about 9-10 months ago.

[MuniOrBust]

I just got an Antidote bladder for my Lobo. I've only used it twice and didn't notice any leaks.
Not much of a data point, but there ya go.

[johnfoss]

I don't know about the Antidote bladder, but I'll vouch for the Mule. Mine is many years old, but still basically comes out looking like new after a ride in the washer. I've replaced the 3-liter bladder once. It's only the second Camelbak I've owned; I think I got the first on in 1997!

[scotthue]

I have a Lobo with the new bladder, I've had it for about 8 months and been pretty rough on it. I just got a tiny leak in it, but it seems like something actually punctured the bladder though, the leak is not around any of the seals.

[teachndad]

This is all very interesting. The responses regarding the newer Antidote bladder are indicating something different from what I ran into elsewhere on the web. Maybe there are/were some bad production runs.

I encourage any new readers to this thread with direct experience with the new bladder, to chime in.

thanks! Keep em comin.

[Namlak]

I've had one for a number of months now and no leaks or complaints. I really like the new lid and that I can disconnect the hose to let it air out.

[JJuggle]

Well, I bought a Camelbak Lobo on Friday and took it out on a 13 1/2 mile ride yesterday and a 17 mile one today.

Needless to say, or happily, I have no comment yet on the durability issues, but I'm very happy with it. It is advertised as lasting for about 3 hours and today's ride was almost precisely that. And I drained the thing just as I arrived back home. Yesterday I was out for about 2 1/2 hours and had consumed about 4/5 of the contents.

I have no issues with the taste of the water. I just put tap water into it.

It could have a tad more storage but I am able to fit a small wrench, pliers, a tire thingy, a spare and my keys in the bottom pouch. I put a comb and some fruit strips in the middle area (which doesn't zip). And I put my wallet, a hanky, and glucose tabs in the top pouch. I have a small hand pump in the slot on the side (it's for a hand pump I think).

The damn thing is heavy when full, but you get used to it. It throws off my mounting at first, but at least that's when I'm least tired, so it's easy to compensate. Otherwise it's fine.

My biggest hold up in buying a Camelbak (or similar thing) is the maintenance. I'm air drying it, but I know at some point it will require cleaning beyond just making sure it's dry and I'm not confident about that. Just how do you keep them from getting gross?

But so far so good. I'm happy not to have to worry about running out of precious bodily fluids.

I might add that after having passed out after a ride last Wednesday, I was motivated to seeks measures I wouldn't normally have, i.e plopping down the bucks for this thing, to avoid a recurrence.

[Dartmech]

Being able to hydrate when needed has helped immensely in my mountain b_ke riding and now with my Uni. You'll go further with water on demand.
About cleaning it. Honestly I have NEVER cleaned it and have had it for about... 9 months now? Something like that.
When I get done, I empty the bladder, blow out the straw and just stuff it into the pack (never taken it off), and set the bladder upside down leaning on something with those plastic flaps down to keep the bag open. (hanging is the best but I lean /"hang" the fitting on a knife handle in the knife block and tilt the opening toward the counter).
No taste, no smell, but I ONLY put tap water/ice in it. If I were to add anything to the water then I'd probably rinse it out afterwards. Congrats, enjoy and don't pass out anymore!

[jrwi]

Originally Posted by JJuggle

My biggest hold up in buying a Camelbak (or similar thing) is the maintenance. I'm air drying it, but I know at some point it will require cleaning beyond just making sure it's dry and I'm not confident about that. Just how do you keep them from getting gross?

I keep mine in the freezer. Air dry it utilising the fancy arms and that after use, then fold it up and shove it in the freezer compartment of my drinks 'fridge.

Not my original idea; saw it on the internet, possibly even this forum. The theory is this retards the growth of bacteria and goo and trees. So far so good, but then I've only been running mine for a couple of months, so it's no better than Dartmech's success and more bothersome. Thought I'd mention it, though. Like Dartmech, I never use it for anything other than unadulterated water or water ice - that's probably the key factor in avoiding goo...

[JJuggle]

Originally Posted by jrwi

I keep mine in the freezer. Air dry it utilising the fancy arms and that after use, then fold it up and shove it in the freezer compartment of my drinks 'fridge.

Not my original idea; saw it on the internet, possibly even this forum. The theory is this retards the growth of bacteria and goo and trees. So far so good, but then I've only been running mine for a couple of months, so it's no better than Dartmech's success and more bothersome. Thought I'd mention it, though. Like Dartmech, I never use it for anything other than unadulterated water or water ice - that's probably the key factor in avoiding goo...

Thanks. I haven't and don't plan on using it for anything other than tap water. One question though - and I hope this falls under the category that the only stupid question is the one not asked - putting it in the freezer doesn't involve any risk of it cracking from it itself freezing and becoming rigid? Is this correct?

And as for hanging it, I do use the arms and I remove the tube and have folded a large plastic paperclip to create a hook. I then put part of the paperclip without any pointy ends in the nozzle and hang the other side on a clothes drying rack.

[ally1776]

I've had my camelbak for a while too and pretty much do the same as Dartmech. I know you're supposed to "clean it" but so far it's been fine. As Dartmech said, no taste, smell and yes I have only put water into it. I use a water cooler to fill it but besides that pretty much the same. Enjoy it, I really appreciate mine when I'm riding.

[jrwi]

Originally Posted by JJuggle

putting it in the freezer doesn't involve any risk of it cracking from it itself freezing and becoming rigid? Is this correct?

Doesn't seem to be a problem, it doesn't go rigid. One thing to note: the first time I did this I thought it had broken the 'quicklink' connection because I just couldn't get it to click. This turned out to be simply because it was frozen, happens every time. I just leave it for a few minutes or run it under the tap.

I have no proof that this is a better way to store it, but I find the freezer is quite a handy place for it anyway and the theory seems vaguely logical, so I'll stick with it in the absence of any contrary advice!

[Zagira]

Originally Posted by jrwi

Doesn't seem to be a problem, it doesn't go rigid. One thing to note: the first time I did this I thought it had broken the 'quicklink' connection because I just couldn't get it to click. This turned out to be simply because it was frozen, happens every time. I just leave it for a few minutes or run it under the tap.

I have no proof that this is a better way to store it, but I find the freezer is quite a handy place for it anyway and the theory seems vaguely logical, so I'll stick with it in the absence of any contrary advice!

Hey thanks for the good idea!

Also to add to the reviews: I have had a Lobo for a few months and it's worked great as well. Pockets are nice too. The lower chest strap always seems to come loose right away, but the top one is the important one i guess.