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Old 2008-11-21, 03:13 AM   #16
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And do you feel as much acomlishment when you stand still vs landing a treyflip down a 5 set? Didnt think so. My opinion is that standstills are lame to watch, lame to do, and are overall a lame trick. Unless done on a rail or something highup or skinny. Otherwise boring and unsatifying.
Do you even ride trials? Stand stills are a trials skill. I don't get what you're trying to accomplish coming in this thread that is a question about trials from a trials rider and you spamming, "125s are better cause they're street and that's what I do. Trials and freestyle tricks are lame."

His question wasn't asking your opinion on what genre of unicycling is better and what is/isn't cool in your eyes.

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Anyways, I think you should get a crank size 137+. Moments are extremely strong and good for trials.
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Old 2008-11-21, 03:15 AM   #17
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I cant even land a trey flip yet, but i can stand still, and i dont think its anything too great

Others might not think so, but all i was trying to do was encourage the use of 125mm cranks. Thats it.
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Old 2008-11-21, 03:23 AM   #18
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I don't think shorter cranks (to a point) effect stillstands that much. I can stillstand for just as long or longer on a flatlandish freestyle uni setup with 114mms as I can on a KH with 137mms.

Even on a freestyle with 89mms I can standstill pretty decently. Standstills are all about the side-side action, but shorter cranks only effect torque on front-back corrections negatively, and they should be pretty basic to a decent uni rider.
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Old 2008-11-21, 03:29 AM   #19
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Others might not think so, but all i was trying to do was encourage the use of 125mm cranks. Thats it.
In a trials related thread.

Should I recommend 145s to freestylists because I like them?
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Old 2008-11-21, 03:30 AM   #20
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Sure. I'm pretty big on freestyle but I own 3 pairs of 150mm cranks.
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Old 2008-11-21, 03:32 AM   #21
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Sure. I'm pretty big on freestyle but I own 3 pairs of 150mm cranks.
Yeah, good point.

and besides, nobody said this was trials related, im pretty sure that there are stand stills in freestyle, and flatland.

No need to be hostile toward one another.
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Old 2008-11-21, 04:24 AM   #22
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How long counts as a "good" stillstand? I can do something like 2 seconds consistently maybe more if I am lucky.
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Old 2008-11-21, 04:28 AM   #23
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I think i did mention that i did ride trials... but ya i might just stick with the quax crmo 125s cuz either way ill get used to it. anyways i think SHAY CAM just likes to argue and state his opinion which is fine so whateva. Thanks for the comments. but no need to hate guys. Peace
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Old 2008-11-21, 08:59 PM   #24
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137, 140, 145, 150's are the way to go if you ride trials. Period. Every good trials rider uses 137 and up, not many use 150, I did and they were nice. If you want to ride like Joe, max or any other great rider you'll need a longer crank. I really don't think you will enjoy the 125's for more advanced levels. Also, more street riders use 137's-140's than any other length that I know of. If your planning on hopping to rails, skinnies, really anything that you need great precision for the 125's will not preform as well. Also if you want to do large ups the longer cranks help out alot.
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How long counts as a "good" stillstand? I can do something like 2 seconds consistently maybe more if I am lucky.
15 seconds or more. Once you hit the 15 second mark you know you are doing something right.
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Old 2008-11-21, 10:48 PM   #26
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are there more people who have 150 mm cranks??
Is it a lot better then 137mm, to stand still,.....

maby I will buy in the future 150 mm cranks
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Old 2008-11-21, 10:52 PM   #27
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No, atleast not on a trials wheel set, 19". I rode like that for a while, 137's work just as good for the most part. If you've got 137's-145's you'll be fine. No need for 150's.
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Old 2008-11-21, 10:59 PM   #28
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are there more people who have 150 mm cranks??
Is it a lot better then 137mm, to stand still,.....

maby I will buy in the future 150 mm cranks
I have/had a crappy square tapered trials uni. I have 150s on it when doing trials. It is much better than 125s for control and anything stationary but 125s are definitely nicer for rolling around. I would like to try 140s or 137s as I think that would be my ideal size for trials.
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Old 2008-11-22, 03:12 AM   #29
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Q-factor really seems to be more important doing still stands than crank length.


Today I tried it out, and a completely straight pair of cheap 150mm cranks on a 24 inch learner resulted in poorer still stands than a pair of 114mm Qu-Ax cranks with very good outward taper on a 20 inch freestyle( I'm including wheelsize to show there were other factors here that may have played a part, but for the record most of my stillstand practice is on a 24" MUni.)

Straight 150mm cranks ~ average around 10 seconds
114mm cranks with excellent outward taper~ average around 20 seconds

Normally I would have 89mm or 102mm crank arms on the freestyle uni, but I'm working on more flatland right now and these cranks really aren't that bad with griptape on them--without griptape even the cheap united cranks are better though.


137s are definitely better for hopping than 125s, especially doing natural trials jumping to lots of uneven surfaces. I'm just saying that stillstands aren't a big issue here.

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