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Old 2008-10-16, 07:04 AM   #16
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This list is garbage. Sorry to be so blunt.

Last level (Lvl 10) should include (to this date), but not be limited to:

SIF side hop with prehop 130cm
SIF side hop with prehop over bar 120cm
Gap SIF/SI 8 ft from level surfaces static or with prehop.
Consistently ride 3 meters of hand rail.
Consistently still stand for 10 seconds in both crank positions on all terrain/obstacles.
Sidehop to 3ft handrail and ride.
Static SIF 105cm
Gap 6ft between rails
From skinny, SIF hop up 100cm (weird 90 degree turn).

Rolling moves are bonuses in rare situations for trials, but not required. Look at Fabian. Better to have a strong side hop than a lesser one with a decent rolling up.

Again, there is so much to trials than figures. Landing on weird surfaces from drops/ups/etc, riding uphill rails, pecking up X degrees and the influence of height (vertigo) to lines that would be easy close to the ground but pro up high. There is quite a lot more that goes into trials than cm and inches. A list would be good as a general idea of where you should be, but remember to practice tech lines as much or even more than power moves.
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Old 2008-10-16, 07:05 AM   #17
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level 10 is supposed to be possible, make level 10 12+ stairs if thats even going to be in it.

static gap might be a little extreme as well, the point is to make it so that there are a few elite level 10s at the same time, never none.
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Old 2008-10-16, 07:15 AM   #18
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Im sure its landable
level 10 is not somthing easy reached, think joe hodges, skrobo, etc
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wow, where did that come from, i can't even hop up 100 cm that i know of, (a while back i was hitting 75-80 cm rolling, but i can't hit 60 static w/ any consistency)
the only thing i can do is hop for distance. I don't really have the ups of most trials riders.
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Old 2008-10-16, 08:30 PM   #19
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lol, i just read the post that the video was posted in reply to. i had to laugh, 15 stairs?!
possible, but 13 and 14 come before 15.
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Old 2008-10-16, 08:50 PM   #20
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imo, rolling anything isnt trials.

oh also, when you start getting to huge sets like that, there begins to be physics problems.

Landing a 15 set could possibly kill you. After taking my medical course, i know that if you fall from a height thats 2.5 times your height will dislodge organs such as kidneys. Not to mention fracturing bones, and causing spinal problems.

I know theres the whole thing of rolling away from the drop, but theres a LOT of force in there.
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Old 2008-10-16, 09:06 PM   #21
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I can do everything in level 3 but not hop down 10 stairs...that seems out of place for level 3. 10 is a lot. Unless they're really small stairs. That's a 5 foot drop if every stair is 6 in. tall, and 6 in. is kinda small. Make one in metric too.
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Old 2008-10-16, 09:09 PM   #22
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Petad, i meant up and down, not 1 hop
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a fall from 6 feet could easily kill you, but in this matter, unless you really jack up, you are going to be fine. your legs will cushion your fall along with the transfer of motion to the ground.
2 1/2 times your body height, the biggest set i've jumped down wasn't quite 1 1/2 times my height, and it was tall, adding 3 more stairs to that is only putting you a little over 1 1/2 times your height, easily doable, besides, skaters do 20 sets...and motocross...lets not even go there...

i agree on the non-trials because you are rolling, unless you're on a rail.

rolling trials is kind of an oxymoron.
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rolling trials is kind of an oxymoron.
exactly.
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Old 2008-10-16, 11:08 PM   #25
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Yay, i'm level 7.

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Old 2008-10-16, 11:14 PM   #26
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Last level (Lvl 10) should include (to this date), but not be limited to:...
Sounds a bit extreme to me. I think there should be several who are L 10 right now, say a dozen + people, world wide.

...and getting to a level means completing ALL of the skills.

How about this:
-SIF side hop with prehop 110cm
-SIF side hop with prehop over bar 100 cm
-Gap SIF/SI 7 ft from level surfaces static or with prehop.
-Consistently ride 3 meters of 2" diameter hand rail.
-Consistently still stand for 10 seconds in both crank positions on a 2" flat rail.
-Sidehop to 90 cm high round rail and ride.
-Static SIF 100 cm
-Gap 5 ft between rails
-From 2" round rail, SIF hop up 70 cm & 90 degrees to another 2" rail, to the left and to the right.
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-Gap from 2" round rail 90 cm to another rail w/ a 180 degree turn.
-Hop up 70 cm from a 4"X4" post to another 4"X4" post.
-Ride backwards 1 m. on a 2" wide flat rail.
-Roll up a set of 4 stairs
-Ride on a 2" round rail, roll up a 4" ledge 1" thick back to a rail, ride 2 m. roll up another ledge, back to a third rail and ride 1+ m. on it. All in a streight line.
-Ride up a 10 ft long, 2" round rail w/ one end mounted 100 + cm high above the first.

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rolling trials is kind of an oxymoron.
But for some things it's helpful if you can roll them.
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If somone has time, mind updating the list? Im HW tied.
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Old 2008-10-17, 12:26 AM   #28
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imo, rolling anything isnt trials.
Agreed, unless riding skinnies or riding through part of a line.


Also, last time I checked, stair sets were street.

I still think the levels are stupid because someone might be a crazy good trials rider with only a sidehop of 60.
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Even I can rolling hop over 65cm and my SIF sidehop technique sucks...
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Old 2008-10-17, 09:43 PM   #30
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YAY! i'm level 7. but i think rolling hop down stairs is not in trial, it should be in street. Tompec did a 12 set, it's the biggest i know.
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