Arrow Racing Savage 24 x 3.0 DH Tire

jagur · 2003-02-20, 06:30 PM

anyone riding this tyre?

its only $20 bucks,which is a bargin compared to a 55 dollar Gazz.

anyone have the both to compare? are the sidewalls thick?
http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=561

JonnyD · 2003-02-20, 10:11 PM

I ride the Arrow, but one of the strangest things about it is that no where on it does it say 'Savage', or anything of the sort. It says "Wildlife Leopard" something.

Anyway, it is definitely a bargain. I have ridden a Gazz tire (not owned one) but I haven't had enough experience to really compare. I don't know about the sidewalls, but the main differences are 1) the tread pattern, and 2) the Arrow is shaped round like the tube, and so most of the contact is on the treads in the middle: this probably means less traction. By contrast, the Gazz tire has a flat shape when pumped up and likely gets more surface area on the ground.

Yes, it's more money, but it's probably a better tire.

I'm in the process of making my Arrow a slick while i save up for a Gazz.

jagur · 2003-02-20, 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JonnyD
I ride the Arrow, but one of the strangest things about it is that no where on it does it say 'Savage', or anything of the sort. It says "Wildlife Leopard" something.

are you sure that is an Arrow tyre? because Duro makes the "wildlife leopard"

thanx for your thoughts though...

jagur · 2003-02-20, 11:22 PM

what about this tyre?

Arrow Racing Wide Bite 3.0 Tire
http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=565

that one is $44 bucks and looks better than the Gazz,anyone using that one?nice red sidewall

muddycycle · 2003-02-20, 11:53 PM

Jagur – I may be way out in left field on this, but I think the Duro that came with the new KH24 is the same tire as the Arrow. I had a close look at the Arrow and I saw formed in the rubber a very small Duro logo. It could be a case of branding or licensing or some other marketing slight of hand; the two do look the same. Cliff rides both, I remember him saying that he liked the arrow, but I can’t remember the details of why.

jagur · 2003-02-21, 02:02 AM

this tyre

sure does look sweet!

Scott Stephens · 2003-02-21, 03:11 AM

I have the savage tire on my Yuni Muni. Its not a bad tire at all, I have had it for about 6 months and have exoerienced no problems.

Scott

muddycycle · 2003-02-21, 07:00 PM

I see that ebay has some 24x3 tires. item# 2711261024

I am not and I do not know the seller.

jeffbinning · 2003-02-21, 08:04 PM

I had the Savage for a couple of months before I upgraded to a gazz. it's an alright tire for the price, but I noticed considerable tire fold when hopping sideways up a slope or onto stuff, due to the thin sidewall. I also noticed from my tire tracks that with the rounder tread shape, you don't get as much tread to the ground as you do with the gazz. I'd say pay the extra $30 and get a gazz.

TonyMelton · 2003-02-22, 07:23 AM

I have an Arrow Racing 24x2.75 tyre, which has a similar tread pattern to the picture Jagur posted. I haven't ridden on an Arrow 24x3 tyre but for the record here's my thoughts on the 24X2.75.

For an experiment last week I changed from my usual Gazz 24x3 to the Arrow 24x2.75. I'm afraid I can't say anything positive about the way it rides. It was fine on perfectly flat stretches but riding any slight camber was awful. I was really fighting the unicycle just to go in the direction I wanted. My arms were flailing wildly and I was cursing the tyre for not being able to handle a gentle gravel road. I was so p***ed off with the Arrow I turned around after 20 minutes of torture, rode/wobbled back to the car and changed back to my Gazz. Aaaaah! Sweet relief. The difference was enormous and reinforced my belief that the Gazz is a superb tyre.

If the Arrow 24x3 rides anything like the 2.75" version, I'd strongly reccommend against it! Save yr pennies and get a Gazz!

jagur · 2003-02-22, 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TonyMelton
If the Arrow 24x3 rides anything like the 2.75" version, I'd strongly reccommend against it! Save yr pennies and get a Gazz!

oh sure,go ahead and post a review like that after ive already ordered the thing.

now i have 10 dayz to wait and see what its like,i ordered the 44 dollar 24x3.0 WIDE BITE.

belive me,if its that bad,i'll notice and send it back without even getting it dirty. but that red sidewall is still sexy!

GizmoDuck · 2003-02-23, 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TonyMelton
I have an Arrow Racing 24x2.75 tyre, which has a similar tread pattern to the picture Jagur posted. I haven't ridden on an Arrow 24x3 tyre but for the record here's my thoughts on the 24X2.75.

For an experiment last week I changed from my usual Gazz 24x3 to the Arrow 24x2.75. I'm afraid I can't say anything positive about the way it rides. It was fine on perfectly flat stretches but riding any slight camber was awful. I was really fighting the unicycle just to go in the direction I wanted. My arms were flailing wildly and I was cursing the tyre for not being able to handle a gentle gravel road. I was so p***ed off with the Arrow I turned around after 20 minutes of torture, rode/wobbled back to the car and changed back to my Gazz. Aaaaah! Sweet relief. The difference was enormous and reinforced my belief that the Gazz is a superb tyre.

If the Arrow 24x3 rides anything like the 2.75" version, I'd strongly reccommend against it! Save yr pennies and get a Gazz!

Hey Tony, you managed to get your 24x3 tyres off your rims just like that? I haven't tried yet but if it's anything like my 26' Gazz it will be a challenge.

I have the Duro tyre 3' on my new KH24'. Yeah, it does have a tendency to not go where you want it but I didn't think it was too bad. The traction is good but I'm comparing that to a 26x2.6' Gazz.

Ken

jagur · 2003-02-23, 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TonyMelton
If the Arrow 24x3 rides anything like the 2.75" version, I'd strongly reccommend against it! Save yr pennies and get a Gazz!

i just realised somthing,the Arrow tyre im getting is only available in 24x3.0 so i think we are talking about two differant tyres.

john_childs · 2003-02-23, 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by GizmoDuck

Hey Tony, you managed to get your 24x3 tyres off your rims just like that? I haven't tried yet but if it's anything like my 26' Gazz it will be a challenge.

Get some metal tire levers and it will be much easier to install and remove the DH tires.

Park Tool is now making a metal tire lever
<http://www.parktool.com/tools/TL_5.shtml>

Intense Tires also makes a metal tire lever
<http://www.intensetires.com/>

You can also get a tire lever very similar to the Intense lever at a motorcycle or moped shop.

I still don't understand why unicycle.com does not carry metal tire levers. They really should have them in the catalog. All of the local DH and freeride oriented bike shops (the shops that stock Gazz tires and other DH tires) have metal tire levers in stock. If you sell DH tires it should be a given that you also stock metal tire levers.

Max_Dingemans · 2003-02-23, 03:06 AM

John, it might be because with the imroper use of a metal DH tire lever you can rip right through the sidewalls of rims? maybe they dont want to be held responsible.

2003-02-20, 06:30 PM	#1
jagur My Uzi is a Tongue Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: {So-Lame,Oregon} Posts: 6,197	Arrow Racing Savage 24 x 3.0 DH Tire anyone riding this tyre? its only $20 bucks,which is a bargin compared to a 55 dollar Gazz. anyone have the both to compare? are the sidewalls thick? http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=561 __________________ theres enough BS in life, without mobius contributing. Forget_Your_Life -------------------------------------- -------MUNI MILITIA ------- One Wheeled Death Squad twitter> @shot of jagur

2003-02-20, 10:11 PM	#2
JonnyD Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Utah, USA Posts: 226	I ride the Arrow, but one of the strangest things about it is that no where on it does it say 'Savage', or anything of the sort. It says "Wildlife Leopard" something. Anyway, it is definitely a bargain. I have ridden a Gazz tire (not owned one) but I haven't had enough experience to really compare. I don't know about the sidewalls, but the main differences are 1) the tread pattern, and 2) the Arrow is shaped round like the tube, and so most of the contact is on the treads in the middle: this probably means less traction. By contrast, the Gazz tire has a flat shape when pumped up and likely gets more surface area on the ground. Yes, it's more money, but it's probably a better tire. I'm in the process of making my Arrow a slick while i save up for a Gazz. Last edited by JonnyD; 2003-02-20 at 10:13 PM.

2003-02-20, 11:22 PM	#4
jagur My Uzi is a Tongue Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: {So-Lame,Oregon} Posts: 6,197	what about this tyre? Arrow Racing Wide Bite 3.0 Tire http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=565 that one is $44 bucks and looks better than the Gazz,anyone using that one?nice red sidewall __________________ theres enough BS in life, without mobius contributing. Forget_Your_Life -------------------------------------- -------MUNI MILITIA ------- One Wheeled Death Squad twitter> @shot of jagur

2003-02-20, 11:53 PM	#5
muddycycle Nonchalance Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Corvallis, Oregon Age: 58 Posts: 190	Jagur – I may be way out in left field on this, but I think the Duro that came with the new KH24 is the same tire as the Arrow. I had a close look at the Arrow and I saw formed in the rubber a very small Duro logo. It could be a case of branding or licensing or some other marketing slight of hand; the two do look the same. Cliff rides both, I remember him saying that he liked the arrow, but I can’t remember the details of why. __________________ "What can possiby mystify a madman?" Hegira: Greg Bear

2003-02-21, 02:02 AM	#6
jagur My Uzi is a Tongue Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: {So-Lame,Oregon} Posts: 6,197	this tyre sure does look sweet! __________________ theres enough BS in life, without mobius contributing. Forget_Your_Life -------------------------------------- -------MUNI MILITIA ------- One Wheeled Death Squad twitter> @shot of jagur

2003-02-21, 03:11 AM	#7
Scott Stephens Equipment Destroyer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: San Antonio Texas Age: 25 Posts: 458	I have the savage tire on my Yuni Muni. Its not a bad tire at all, I have had it for about 6 months and have exoerienced no problems. Scott __________________ If it weren't for electricity we'd all be watching television by candlelight." George Gobol I have worked too hard to be a clown. I am an athlete and wish to be respected as one.- Checkernuts

2003-02-21, 07:00 PM	#8
muddycycle Nonchalance Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Corvallis, Oregon Age: 58 Posts: 190	I see that ebay has some 24x3 tires. item# 2711261024 I am not and I do not know the seller. __________________ "What can possiby mystify a madman?" Hegira: Greg Bear

2003-02-21, 08:04 PM	#9
jeffbinning 1x1 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Roseville, CA Posts: 19	I had the Savage for a couple of months before I upgraded to a gazz. it's an alright tire for the price, but I noticed considerable tire fold when hopping sideways up a slope or onto stuff, due to the thin sidewall. I also noticed from my tire tracks that with the rounder tread shape, you don't get as much tread to the ground as you do with the gazz. I'd say pay the extra $30 and get a gazz.

2003-02-22, 07:23 AM	#10
TonyMelton Proud owner of Kris Holms old shoes Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Auckland, NZ Posts: 1,006	I have an Arrow Racing 24x2.75 tyre, which has a similar tread pattern to the picture Jagur posted. I haven't ridden on an Arrow 24x3 tyre but for the record here's my thoughts on the 24X2.75. For an experiment last week I changed from my usual Gazz 24x3 to the Arrow 24x2.75. I'm afraid I can't say anything positive about the way it rides. It was fine on perfectly flat stretches but riding any slight camber was awful. I was really fighting the unicycle just to go in the direction I wanted. My arms were flailing wildly and I was cursing the tyre for not being able to handle a gentle gravel road. I was so p***ed off with the Arrow I turned around after 20 minutes of torture, rode/wobbled back to the car and changed back to my Gazz. Aaaaah! Sweet relief. The difference was enormous and reinforced my belief that the Gazz is a superb tyre. If the Arrow 24x3 rides anything like the 2.75" version, I'd strongly reccommend against it! Save yr pennies and get a Gazz! __________________ Take a squizz at my YouTube videos!

2003-02-23, 03:06 AM	#15
Max_Dingemans Pedal Pedal Crash Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 1,391	John, it might be because with the imroper use of a metal DH tire lever you can rip right through the sidewalls of rims? maybe they dont want to be held responsible. __________________ There is nothing worse than a gross exaggeration.

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