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Old 2008-04-10, 03:06 PM   #31
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I find that downshifting going up a hill, you need to get into a stillstand pedals flat position and kick it and just deal with the pedals spinning slightly.

I upshift while riding slowly now. I used to pretty much come to a stop to do it, which was okay with 150 cranks, but not so good on the 125s, I find that it shifts most solidly at about 4 mph or so, when I've got a teeny bit of speed but not much - I think that the little bit of momentum helps the wheel get past the gear change bit and click in very quickly.

One random thing, I find it much harder to shift with a T7 handle, also it is a fair bit easier to shift with my new lightweight 2" road tyre than with the 2.3" big apple.

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I think what works for one person may not work for others

I do find it easier to shift at slower speeds -- it is basically easier to predict when you should move your ankle towards the button.

But, to really be efficient at shifting and riding fast, I find it essential to be able to shift at 10 mph -- both up and downshift. When I hit about 10-11 MPH I tend to upshift -- sometimes I loose a few mph (down to 8) if I miss it a few times. For downshifting, I previously was waiting till I got down to about 5 mph, but I find it better if I start to downshift at 10mph (which is the speed I prefer to keep when going up moderate hills). Each miss causes you to slow down quite a bit and cover a lot of distance when in high gear.

That's just my preference. I haven't ridden at all this week! I really need to get on the guni some more...

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Old 2008-04-10, 04:01 PM   #32
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But, to really be efficient at shifting and riding fast, I find it essential to be able to shift at 10 mph -- both up and downshift.
Yeah, but it seems to be easier to switch from high cadence low gear to low cadence high gear than vice versa. So, I think I prefer to shift up at a higher speed than shifting down.
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Old 2008-04-10, 05:02 PM   #33
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One random thing, I find it much harder to shift with a T7 handle, also it is a fair bit easier to shift with my new lightweight 2" road tyre than with the 2.3" big apple.

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Really, what do you think makes the shifting easier on the smaller tire?
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Old 2008-04-10, 05:24 PM   #34
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Really, what do you think makes the shifting easier on the smaller tire?
The weight of the tyre + tube is about 33% lower (995+250=1245g vs. 690+140=830g), so it is much easier to keep the wheel spinning in high gear when you shift, it really feels very nice to shift.

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Old 2008-04-10, 09:34 PM   #35
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Yeah, but it seems to be easier to switch from high cadence low gear to low cadence high gear than vice versa. So, I think I prefer to shift up at a higher speed than shifting down.
I fully agree!

i still have trouble downshifting.
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