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Old 2010-04-20, 02:58 PM   #1
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Lightbulb Echo 2010 components.. save weight, and make your uni stand out

For those that need it or care, save weight.



ECHO SL platform pedal

Super light, 282g per pair.
super slim, 22mm thickness..
Titanium axle and pins.
one piece 6061 body, CNC milling.
sealed ball bearing + DU bearing.
In black color only.






ECHO seat clamps.

AL 7075 T6 aluminum body with titanium bolt.
For 27.2mm seat post use.
13.5g
in 10 different anodized color.





FULL INFO: http://tartybikes.co.uk/product.php?...category_id=72



FULL INFO: http://tartybikes.co.uk/product.php?...category_id=72






FULL INFO: http://tartybikes.co.uk/product.php?...category_id=23
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Old 2010-04-20, 03:03 PM   #2
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OMG Sponge, first you bring out the Tritons now this.

I just hyperventilated, fainted and hit my head on on the computer

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Old 2010-04-20, 04:36 PM   #3
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Unfortunately, they're all out......
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Old 2010-04-20, 05:06 PM   #4
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Very cool, nothing worth fainting over though. Those pedals look pretty similar to the wellgo mg-1s with ti axles that currently exist.

I'd be interested in hearing reviews on those brakes though, I wonder if they will provide smoother braking than the HS-33s.
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Old 2010-04-20, 05:13 PM   #5
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Hopefully, Brycer will chime in on the brakes. He recently had a set of echo brakes.
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Old 2010-04-20, 05:32 PM   #6
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These new Echo SL Ti pedals look and feel absolutely nothing like Wellgo MG-Tis. Totally different shape, and a bit lighter and meaner looking.

Worth a shot, the platform seems a bit wider. I held both in my hands and compared.


Brakes-wise, the older Echo brakes from 2008 and before weren't great.

From 2009 onwards, they have been very reliable. Better performance than a Magura in many cases. The SL brake pictured is better than the TR brake (red pictured) but it's mainly a case of the alloy used in the slave cylinders. The levers are definitely considered an upgrade over the standard Magura ones though.


Coloured seatclamps ahoy... now you can use 'em on your Koxxs and KHs... even gunmetal, turqoise, orange, purple... all available now.

Oh and thank god.. anodized green
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Old 2010-04-26, 07:41 PM   #7
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Echo brakes

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Hopefully, Brycer will chime in on the brakes. He recently had a set of echo brakes.
Echo's gets the award for industrial design and making them pretty.

For what its worth: I've messed around with a couple of sets of Echo rim brakes made in 2006 and 2008, both new and used. I really had a hard time seeing how, for unicycling they are an upgrade over Maggies. The slave cylinders may be fine and are low-profile compared to the HS33 slaves, but its mainly the Echo levers that seemed to be less bomb-proof as the HS33's and HS22's.


Strangely, I had trouble getting them to bleed well with Maggie fluid. Some air seemed to want to remain in the master cylinder?? I've bled hundreds of Maggies and haven't had this problem.

The hydro fittings that Echo's take are slightly shorter and the stock Maggie fittings bottomed at the end of the hole just before seating.

The lever blades aren't sponer compatible and just didn't feel very comfortable at the angle that uni riders seem to use them under the saddle.

The master cylinder piston, bore and pivot point are arranged for maximum brake leverage and power for trials bike riders - but not for driving the pads a longer distances as Nature Quack noted in this thread. For most MUNI, peak braking power isn't needed, so the lever seems to need to travel more to have the same effect as with Maggies - if that makes sense.

The master cylinder pistons I had had two o-rings, which sounds good, but it doesn't have a nylon scraper like Maguras have to keep dirt out of the o-ring seal area. Seems like, though I don't have proof that this means that the outer o-ring is going to collect grit and wear faster??

So, IMHO, I think Echos are great for Trials riding, but I just haven't had good luck with them (or the old Kookas, RB Designs or other older flashy Magura knock-offs) for unicycles.

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