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Old 2008-06-20, 03:51 PM   #1
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Question Honda fit or toyota prius?

This is *driving* me crazy..pun not intended but "fits" none the less! Anyway, I'm ready to buy a new car and I'm torn between the Honda fit sport with mpg estimates of 27/34/29 combined, and about $10,000 less than the toyota prius, which are selling out faster than dealers can get them.

Not only that, but supply in demand means that most are selling them atup to $3,500 OVER msrp! So we're talking-for just a base model-almost $30k out the door if paying cash! I can get an '08 fit sport (Automatic, cruise control, mp3) for about 18k out the door.

The prius supposedly gets about 45/50 mpg so yeah that is the huge selling point, even though when the tome comes to replace the hybrid battery pack it'll cost you at least $2,500-3.5k!

So, with all this in mind, I'm thinking that the fit might be the better long term value, because even with the prius' better mpg, it would take many years to break even with he cost of the fit, if ever.

Btw, toyota plans to unveil their next incarnation of the prius thqat will make current models look like gas-guzzlers!..in 2009!
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=109981


Btw#2: Go here for mpg estimates on all cars: http://www.fueleconomy.gov/
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Old 2008-06-20, 04:46 PM   #2
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Old 2008-06-20, 05:29 PM   #3
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I drive a Prius. (Both and 03 and an 07) And I love them (obviously the 07 is better). The turn radius is amazing, and the acceleration isn't as bad as one may assume. It really is a nice car. The 07 has a lot of trunk space too, which is nice (unlike the 03). Go Prius!
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Old 2008-06-20, 06:49 PM   #4
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I had the same idea and came up with the same conclusion. The Fit is a GO.

I helped the girl friend get the Fit. We liked the cheaper price and better predictability. She gets over 31mpg ( mountains and city).

Super roomy!! Have you seen how the back seats fold down? Easily FITS a mountain bike(14") or a bunch of unis. I like the looks of the back door better than the Prius'
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Old 2008-06-20, 06:51 PM   #5
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Well, I just had my '03 Honda crv detailed and since it only has 60k miles and is still like new im/out, I just cou;dn't justify spending $18,000 on a new (inferior quality) much smaller Honda fit, when I would only gain about 5 mpg improvement! Just doesn't make sense now. And it seems insane to spend the current RIP OFF going price of more than $30k out the door for a standard prius. Rediculous. I also only average about 12-15k total miles per year.

I could see if you were commuting a lot and putting on 30k or more a year, the you would definitely save a lot in gas cost, but is $30k worth the extra money you save in gas? I think we're going to see some MAJOR mpg improvements even in the pirus soon, and so the current models will become outdated soon. I'll just wait another year ot 2.
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Old 2008-06-20, 07:06 PM   #6
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We just traded in our '99 CRV! It had just over 100000 and a new timing belt. It was a sweet car but we don't miss it now. The Fit is like a mini CRV. We didn't need the extra space..... or the 4 wheel drive.

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I'm a Toyota guy, having the first car I drove being a camry, and then owning a prism (a cheapened version of the Corolla made by Toyota for GM), and now a highlander. Toyota's are nice, but while the Prius is nice; to you, I would recommend the Fit, but then again, if you are an environmentalist socialist, you may want to go with the prius since that gives the impression of being eco friendly even though the Fit is probably more eco friendly as the result of there being less enviromental impact in production. As a free market capitalist, I recommend you go with the car that matches the needs you have at the lowest cost, and that seems to be the Fit.

Yes, next to Toyotas, Hondas are probably my next choice.
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It looks like that '09 version of the prius would pay for itself in a couple months with today's gas prices. But before you make your decision based on the price of the cars, you should take some time to figure out how long it would take for the prius to pay off in the long run based on how much you drive. We have had a prius for about 3 years and my dad calculated that we saved at least $10,000 based on the driving we have done over an SUV.
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Old 2008-06-20, 08:49 PM   #9
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We have had a prius for about 3 years and my dad calculated that we saved at least $10,000 based on the driving we have done over an SUV.
Comparing a prius to an SUV. That's not a very good comparison. If you need the space and utility of an SUV, the prius just does not match up, but if you need the limited space of a small car like a prius or fit, then you can better compare them.

Again, it all comes down to what you need in a vehicle. If you can get by with a small vehicle, then get the most economical one that suits you... one that is the lowest cost for it's total useful life in your case. If you need the space an SUV provides, then you need to look at all those SUV options and their total cost of ownership. The real problem comes when someone like me needs a large vehicle that can tow a trailor for some of the time, but most of the time can get by with a small vehicle like the prius or fit (or even smaller).

In my household, we have a civic and a highlander, so much of the time we can choose to commute in the one that gives us the best utility for the trip.
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It looks like that '09 version of the prius would pay for itself in a couple months with today's gas prices. But before you make your decision based on the price of the cars, you should take some time to figure out how long it would take for the prius to pay off in the long run based on how much you drive. We have had a prius for about 3 years and my dad calculated that we saved at least $10,000 based on the driving we have done over an SUV.
Wow you must drive like 60k miles per year to save that much! My yearly gas cost based on $4 per gallon is roughly $2,500.

If I got a prius I'd cut that in half, which would mean a savings if $1,250 per year. To save 10k it would take EIGHT years! The cost of the prius right now-for new- is about $30k out the door minimum! I'd get at most, 10k for my '03 crv, making the pirus net cost $20k. Then you'd likely need a replacement battery a couple years later that would cost you about $3,000 or more with installation.

Doesn't sound to well worth it-at least for me. Especially now when dealers are gouging the price of the prius by up to $4,000 OVER msrp, let alone the fact that they sell out before they even get to the showroom! It's hype and mania, but it's not always well thought out. Btw, My annual mileage is about 12k only. Plus as a piano tuner the crv has much more room and has more power. So I have to ask myself if it's worth shelling out $30,000 mainly to just double my mpg?

Btw, I've been checking pirus' selling on ebay-even the ones with "salvaged" titles are going like hotcakes! 20,30,50 bids! And selling for well over $20,000!!! It's totally crazy! Here's a salvaged title prius with 33 bids and nearly 19k! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Toyot...m220246891902&
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Wow you must drive like 60k miles per year to save that much!

Btw, My annual mileage is about 12k only.


So I have to ask myself if it's worth shelling out $30,000 mainly to just double my mpg?
Actually, I think we only have about 55,000 miles on it. I think my dad might have exaggerated a little bit by saying we saved $10,000. But had we been driving a big SUV we might have saved about that much.

If you only drive 12k miles a year, it would take a lot longer for the prius to pay off. The Honda Fit sounds like a good compromise for your situation.

You make that sound like it's a bad thing.
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Wow you must drive like 60k miles per year to save that much! My yearly gas cost based on $4 per gallon is roughly $2,500.
Now with gas a buck cheaper, don't you wish you got a Fit?
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Now with gas a buck cheaper, don't you wish you got a Fit?
My goodness it *is* a buck cheaper now! How nice. You seem to think it's going to stay that way?

Toyotas and Hondas are both great cars, you could do far worse in a choice of brand in terms of reliability and resale value. I love my Toyota, though it's not as fuel-efficient as I wish...
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Gas has never bothered me, and now with it being around 2.40-2.60 a gallon, I dont even think about it. Its been dropping about 10 cents every couple of days pretty much. Cheaper than a gallon of milk now. As long as milk doesnt raise a lot ill be happy.

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I'm not sure, Terry, what your car needs are, but I can report that for a single human driving mainly to and from work (70 miles total each day, half city half freeway), with the occasional jaunt to some unicycling event someplace, the Fit is just perfect.

Though it has a very small, sub-compact footprint on the ground (translation: you can park it anywhere), it's roomy inside even for the larger adult humans you might travel with.

I can get my N36, T7 handle and all, in and out through the rear passenger doors with no trouble at all. I also can carry a 20", a 24" and a 29" in the hatchback area quite easily, with room to spare for other equipment.

I think with your city driving and the hills you'll still manage 30 mpg pretty easily. (I am getting near 34 without using any drastic hypermiling techniques)

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