Trial uni for a heavy person

[semplice]

Hi there, i`m new member of this forum - name is Chris and country is Poland :-)

My question is:
Which trial uni will last if i try to do some big drops on it? I`m rather big guy - 193 cm and 109 kg. :-)
I thought about koxx devil... how do you think?
I`m sure that there are a bunch of big guys riding trial or maybe this type of riding is not possible with weights over 60 kg?


Greetings
Chris

[brendan]

well its pretty impossible to decide which is stronger between the qu-ax yellow hub trials uni, the koxx devil and the KH 07.

The qu-ax MDC edition is abit heavier than the other two, but hardly makes a difference, and the koxx devil has a slightly weaker rim and crmo steel frame.

the KH20" has an aluminium frame so abit weaker but stronger rim. And its overall lightness, is good.

Now people can argue over crank strength for ages lol, but in the end no one knows. So as long as it is splined it'll hopefully be able to support you.

[feel the light]

I am sure even a top grade uni has a limit. For your sake lets hope it's 300 lbs. and not 250 ! I would suggest asking about warrenties. It sounds like you may need one. Ask UDC what the strongest rim is, or has the best warrenty etc.
It's not that hard or much more expensive to make a custom out of parts. It is rare for splined hubs to fail, yet if I were you I would pay extra for the profile hub (life time free replacement). Tell UDC why you want to build a truck, they may suggest what frame is strongest etc.
Normally, everyone just agrees you should get a KH or Koxx and nothing will break. For you, parts will break much much sooner. I say make a custom with a profile hub, and select your other parts more by the replacement policy then other considerations.
I fear you will be disappointed with any stock uni. You would be wise to research this carefully. Talk to UDC and renagade.

[semplice]

Right, good point with the warranty. Yet, it might be difficult here in Poland - we have just a couple of uni dealers... Maybe they will help me out - these stores are established by "uni freaks" :-)

[president_luke]

Originally Posted by feel the light

I am sure even a top grade uni has a limit. For your sake lets hope it's 300 lbs. and not 250 ! I would suggest asking about warrenties. It sounds like you may need one. Ask UDC what the strongest rim is, or has the best warrenty etc.
It's not that hard or much more expensive to make a custom out of parts. It is rare for splined hubs to fail, yet if I were you I would pay extra for the profile hub (life time free replacement). Tell UDC why you want to build a truck, they may suggest what frame is strongest etc.
Normally, everyone just agrees you should get a KH or Koxx and nothing will break. For you, parts will break much much sooner. I say make a custom with a profile hub, and select your other parts more by the replacement policy then other considerations.
I fear you will be disappointed with any stock uni. You would be wise to research this carefully. Talk to UDC and renagade.

I disagree. A KH/Qu-ax/koxx is stronger than anything you'll get custom. Also Kh isis cranks/hub are much stronger than proflies and much cheaper.

[maximus unius]

Unfortunately, even small stuff you do on the uni is gonna put a considerable amount of stress on it. If you really want to stick with stock uni's then get the qu-ax or KH. Otherwise, if you want a uni that can take a beating (even with your weight) I'd go with something like this:

UDC carbon fiber seat base
KH handle and bumper
KH fusion cover
Nimbus II frame
KH Hub and cranks
Pedals of your choice
Spokes from bike shop or MDC
Koxx STREET RIM- Not the drilled one!
Random tube
Tire of your choice

Now, all of this stuff is avaliable from MDC (municycle.com). Roland runs that, so you can email him or call about buying the things that you want. I'm sure that you can also get him to do the wheelbuild if you don't want to do it yourself.

[feel the light]

I think you want to shop here
http://www.unicycle.uk.com/
Shipping costs to Poland from the states will be considerable. On warranty claims, they will make you pay postage. So you should buy on your side of the pond. I doubt your local shops will have a selection to rival UDC (unicycle dot com).
It's intresting that UDC US stocks different parts then UDC UK.
Saddly, the warranty on stuff from UDC is only 30 days. Other then the Profile hub and crank set, you will have to gamble.
The profile was the first splined set on the market. Kris Holms used them for 5 years himself. The KH may be stronger but so what? As soon as you break one you will wish you had a broken profile instead.

[mornish]

Originally Posted by maximus unius

Unfortunately, even small stuff you do on the uni is gonna put a considerable amount of stress on it. If you really want to stick with stock uni's then get the qu-ax or KH. Otherwise, if you want a uni that can take a beating (even with your weight) I'd go with something like this:

UDC carbon fiber seat base
KH handle and bumper
KH fusion cover
Nimbus II frame
KH Hub and cranks
Pedals of your choice
Spokes from bike shop or MDC
Koxx STREET RIM - Not the drilled one!
Random tube
Tire of your choice

Now, all of this stuff is avaliable from MDC (municycle.com). Roland runs that, so you can email him or call about buying the things that you want. I'm sure that you can also get him to do the wheelbuild if you don't want to do it yourself.

Koxx STREET RIM - Not the drilled one!

why would he want the undrilled one? the KH rim is probably just as strong because of the superiour metal...


also, a cf base really isn't needed until you have broken your normal base, you'd have to buy a seat anyway for the foam, cover, and handle/ bumper.

[plumsie]

Originally Posted by president_luke

Also Kh isis cranks/hub are much stronger than proflies and much cheaper.

Can you prove this?

I would love to see some scientific basis for all the opinions that people on this newsgroup hand out as fact.

Plumsie

[Smilymarco]

no scientific basis
just experience people had with different hubs/cranks and so on

Ryan Atkins for example went through profiles like butter (Kris said it here in the forum somewhere i think) and rides his first pair of moments for over a year now (as maximus unius said)

[bungalistic]

Originally Posted by semplice

Hi there, i`m new member of this forum - name is Chris and country is Poland :-)
I`m sure that there are a bunch of big guys riding trial or maybe this type of riding is not possible with weights over 60 kg?

Greetings
Chris

Welcome Chris any of the unicycles mentioned in this thread will be fine, what I wonder is why you say you're a big guy when you weigh over 60kg. How much over 60kg?
I weigh 67kg and ride KH07 and so far no problems at all I have total confidence in the strength of the frame.
I'm more likely to break myself than the unicycle.

[DustinSchaap]

Originally Posted by semplice

Hi there, i`m new member of this forum - name is Chris and country is Poland :-)

My question is:
Which trial uni will last if i try to do some big drops on it? I`m rather big guy - 193 cm and 109 kg. :-)
I thought about koxx devil... how do you think?
I`m sure that there are a bunch of big guys riding trial or maybe this type of riding is not possible with weights over 60 kg?


Greetings
Chris

I've heard Egon say that Roland did 2 meter drops on a Qu-Ax unicycle, he's pretty tall and 90kg, maybe you should contact a unicycle store to see what they say? Roland is from Municycle.com and he has lots of experience with unicycles, you might as well ask him.