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Old 2006-07-12, 12:41 PM   #1
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the deathgrip handle changed my life

Well you know how middle-aged men behave: they like enhancing their little Ferrari with any fancy feature they can lay their hand on
Since I had problems with holding my seat handle I decided to order a "deathgrip" handle from Scott Wallis to modify my "trail gazelle" (a 29er with 114 cranks).
I am dumbfounded by the resulting modifications in my riding style. How come such a simple thing can make such a difference? Is "ergonomy" such a magic word? or is it a simple psychological advantage (like Dumbo's feather)?
Nonetheless now I can grip my handle without wrist fatigue, I can grip my hanlde properly when rushing up a slope, and I am riding faster!
Still 10 magical modifications like that and I will finish in the 1000 first riders at the next 10km race
thanks Scott!
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Old 2006-07-12, 04:06 PM   #2
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Old 2006-07-12, 04:32 PM   #3
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Since I had problems with holding my seat handle I decided to order a "deathgrip" handle from Scott Wallis to modify my "trail gazelle" (a 29er with 114 cranks).
Oooh, a big wheel with small cranks...

One day the Bacon Slicer may meet the Trail Gazelle...
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Old 2006-07-12, 04:37 PM   #4
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yeah i'm thinking of getting one of those. i tried one once and it was so much nicer than the cheap plastic handle that comes with all dx's. xP
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Old 2006-07-12, 09:02 PM   #5
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yeah i'm thinking of getting one of those. i tried one once and it was so much nicer than the cheap plastic handle that comes with all dx's. xP
the handle on the DX seat is almost exactly the same as the ones that come on a KH. i dont see why it is very crappy either.
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Old 2006-07-12, 09:20 PM   #6
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Kh handles are cool...

yeah the deathgrip is better but not for any style where you don't want a huge handle. It's like a carbon fiber molded reeder, too big.
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Old 2006-07-12, 09:25 PM   #7
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No, its really not. The v grip is what you are thinking of. The deathgrip is roughly the same size as every other handle. I use it for trials.

Edit: Oh whatttt I didn't know it was Spencer...too many screen names.
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Old 2006-07-13, 08:23 AM   #8
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One day the Bacon Slicer may meet the Trail Gazelle...
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Gazelle bacon is not bad: I am talking out of experience. My dad used to hunt gazelles to feed his hungry little bear cub (gosh if he were to do that now he will be hanged by conservationists ) Since he used just a "normal" hunting gun you can guess it required real skills to do that and thus I have got strange hunting stories to tell to my grand-children.
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Mike you are influencing me: this morning I just ordered shorter cranks
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Old 2006-10-05, 09:36 PM   #9
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So, I just ordered a new KH 20" trials and would like to get a carbon fiber base with the death grip but have some questions first.

1) How is the death grip for freestyle tricks? Does it get in the way for like 360's, sib, sif, etc?

2) How does it do for seat drag in front on cement or pavement? Does it wear away and cause the carbon fibers to get in your hands and stuff?

3) Any other comments of suggestions I should know? Will it work for the new KH street saddles?

Thanks in advance!

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Old 2006-10-06, 08:11 PM   #10
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So, I just ordered a new KH 20" trials and would like to get a carbon fiber base with the death grip but have some questions first.

1) How is the death grip for freestyle tricks? Does it get in the way for like 360's, sib, sif, etc?

2) How does it do for seat drag in front on cement or pavement? Does it wear away and cause the carbon fibers to get in your hands and stuff?

3) Any other comments of suggestions I should know? Will it work for the new KH street saddles?

Thanks in advance!
My DeathGrip handles and CF bumpers are made with a "tough" resin system rather than a rigid resin such as is used in cf seat bases. This allows it take impacts, flex slightly when needed, and wear without splintering. All of these properties are counter to what you would find in most carbon fiber components which are made as thin, light, and rigid as possible. Same fibers, but completely different construction methods.

It will get beat up and scratched like any handle. If it cracks or becomes unsafe to use within 3 years I will replace it.

I have not checked the fit on the KH street saddle. If the same KH handle fits the new saddle, then the DG should also. If you intend to put a DG on a KH base that is already drilled to the KH pattern, I can drill the handle accordingly before shipping.

The DeathGrip will fit on a plastic KH base, or a Gemcrest KH style base. It will not fit up snugly to the upholstery due to the shallower depth of a KH base compared to a Miyata style or my DeRail bases.

The SIF-Grips will work on a KH style CF base. I sell the grips with 3M VHB (Very High Bond) foam tape for mounting them to the base. They do not fit as perfectly on the Gemcrest bases, and in some case might need to be heated to soften them and help them conform the the shape of the base. Mounting them with an epoxy paste adhesive rather than the mounting tape will solve any surface mismatch problem.

The DG handle will bring out the flex in a seat base not only because the handle is stiff, but because the comfortable shape allows you to pull harder without hand and wrist pain.

Thanks for the comments and questions. I am really behind on production right now, and want to catch up before taking any new orders. I intend for my products to be more available in the not-too-distant future, but for now I am kind of keeping a low profile while I get things set up. As always, thanks to everyone for being patient.

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Old 2006-10-06, 08:17 PM   #11
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What are the sif grips made out of? and the heating process to make it fit the kh gemcrest base better...is that something that i could do on my own or do you do it before you ship it?
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