Michael Moore Got It Wrong!

JJuggle · 2004-07-20, 06:04 PM

Yes, along with the Bush administrations errors around the presence of WMDs in Iraq, the Iraq Al-Qaeda connection, the number of troops needed to execute the war, Michael Moore erred grievously in his film Fahrenheit 9/11. In it he cites the story Bush was reading to the 2nd grade class as being called My Pet Goat. In fact, it was called The Pet Goat. Read the expose in this week's New Yorker.

Cheers,
Raphael Lasar
Matawan, NJ

tuna6869 · 2004-07-20, 06:28 PM

What a excellent movie though, huh? I think everyone in America should be required to watch it before they vote. Fuck Bush, Go Kerry!!

phil · 2004-07-20, 07:08 PM

I... I just don't know what to believe any more...

Phil

JJuggle · 2004-07-20, 07:18 PM

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Originally posted by tuna6869
I think everyone in America should be required to watch it before they vote.

Yes, but if we're required to see it, would we be eligible for overtime pay?

Raphael Lasar
Matawan, NJ

PopeSamXVI · 2004-07-20, 11:58 PM

I wish Michael Moore would get a hobby. Maybe unicycling. But I really believe that everybody should stop watching his movies and spend the time researching it himself.

jagur · 2004-07-21, 12:13 AM

sounds like there was an intelligence breakdown...

xtremeskier_ · 2004-07-21, 06:33 PM

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Originally posted by phil
I... I just don't know what to believe any more...

Phil

*rolling on floor laughing*

john_childs · 2004-07-21, 08:13 PM

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Originally posted by tuna6869
What a excellent movie though, huh? I think everyone in America should be required to watch it before they vote.

I think it would be more educational if everyone was required to read Kerry's voting record and his past positions on every political issue he has stated an opinion on.

JJuggle · 2004-07-21, 09:57 PM

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Originally posted by john_childs
I think it would be more educational if everyone was required to read Kerry's voting record and his past positions on every political issue he has stated an opinion on.

John,

I am not particularly a Kerry fan, but I plan on voting for him. He's what the Democratic party has come up with and I don't plan on voting for Nader this time.

But it would be interesting to have this discussion. Why don't you start us off by picking an issue and summarizing Kerry's position and voting record and your thoughts?

Raphael Lasar
Matawan, NJ

dubmuni2004 · 2004-07-22, 03:14 AM

its all greek to me. i dont understand government at all, and i understand politics a little bit. and i dont even read the newspaper. so if the usa blew up off of the earth i would have no idea

BillyTheMountain · 2004-07-24, 01:29 AM

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Originally posted by JJuggle
John,

I am not particularly a Kerry fan, but I plan on voting for him. He's what the Democratic party has come up with and I don't plan on voting for Nader this time.

But it would be interesting to have this discussion. Why don't you start us off by picking an issue and summarizing Kerry's position and voting record and your thoughts?

Raphael Lasar
Matawan, NJ

Raphael got threadjacked, but I don't think he minds. In NY, I can afford to vote Nader without hurting Kerry, but I don't know about NJ. Still, I think I'll hold my nose and pull the lever for Kerry.

His voting record shows he's a politician, and that's not good. Unfortunately, that's all we get in this country anymore.

Billy

paco · 2004-07-24, 04:56 PM

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Originally posted by JJuggle
I am not particularly a Kerry fan, but I plan on voting for him. He's what the Democratic party has come up with and I don't plan on voting for Nader this time.

This seems like a dangerous opinion to have. "The Democrats picked this guy so I'll vote for him."
Vote for the best candidate, or at least, vote for the least bad candidate. What happened to the days of good presidents who didn't cause huge scandals?

xtremeskier_ · 2004-07-24, 05:57 PM

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Originally posted by paco

This seems like a dangerous opinion to have. "The Democrats picked this guy so I'll vote for him."
Vote for the best candidate, or at least, vote for the least bad candidate.

yes, vote for the least bad candidate - that actually has a chance of winning! I think Nader would make a great president, but voting for him is only going to take away votes from the second least bad candidate that HAS a chance of winning.

Also, anybody else getting annoyed by Nader accepting all the money and support from republicans in three KEY "flip-flop" states?(Oregon, Wisconsin, Florida) Doesnt nader find it a little strange that the same right-wing Republicans that are anti-choice and anti-environment are suddenly pro-Nader? I mean, he's not stupid. He knows that their only objective is to strip away votes from kerry.

Is Nader Pro-Bush??? Or does he actually think he has a chance of winning? Someone help me understand this guy!

xtremeskier_ · 2004-07-24, 08:50 PM

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Originally posted by xtremeskier_

Someone help me understand this guy!

*Cricket... cricket...*

Okay, so maybe nobody understands Nader. But I got to thinkin maybe he's taking these grants from the republicans, and is going to use that money to build some momentum for his cause, then drop out before the election and turn those votes over to Kerry. I doubt this is the case, but I think that be the only right thing to do in this situation. If that is not the plan, then what really are his motives? Is he sincerely trying to give Bush another term?

GILD · 2004-07-26, 10:48 AM

worth a read

2004-07-20, 06:04 PM	#1
JJuggle Last of the Dogmato-Revisionists Join Date: May 2001 Location: Matawan, NJ, USA Age: 52 Posts: 8,096	Michael Moore Got It Wrong! Yes, along with the Bush administrations errors around the presence of WMDs in Iraq, the Iraq Al-Qaeda connection, the number of troops needed to execute the war, Michael Moore erred grievously in his film Fahrenheit 9/11. In it he cites the story Bush was reading to the 2nd grade class as being called My Pet Goat. In fact, it was called The Pet Goat. Read the expose in this week's New Yorker. Cheers, Raphael Lasar Matawan, NJ __________________ Raphael Lasar To plotz is human, to schvitz divine.

2004-07-20, 06:28 PM	#2
tuna6869 Level 9 Rider (Almost 10!) Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ham Lake, MN Age: 33 Posts: 180	Great Movie What a excellent movie though, huh? I think everyone in America should be required to watch it before they vote. Fuck Bush, Go Kerry!! __________________ Jamey Smile! It makes people wonder what you're up to! "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away"

2004-07-20, 07:08 PM	#3
phil Average wheels: 1.5 Join Date: May 2002 Location: Cannock Chase, UK Age: 32 Posts: 3,382	I... I just don't know what to believe any more... Phil __________________ "Cattle Prods solve most of life's little problems."

2004-07-20, 11:58 PM	#5
PopeSamXVI Bea Arthur Look-alike 2nd Place Join Date: May 2004 Location: La Jolla, California Age: 25 Posts: 760	I wish Michael Moore would get a hobby. Maybe unicycling. But I really believe that everybody should stop watching his movies and spend the time researching it himself. __________________ Giving a good title to a short story is like selling real estate to a small dog: it's an art unto itself, and it's completely futile, because no one reads short stories anyway, because obviously dogs have no need for real estate.

2004-07-21, 12:13 AM	#6
jagur My Uzi is a Tongue Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: {So-Lame,Oregon} Posts: 6,197	sounds like there was an intelligence breakdown... __________________ theres enough BS in life, without mobius contributing. Forget_Your_Life -------------------------------------- -------MUNI MILITIA ------- One Wheeled Death Squad twitter> @shot of jagur Last edited by jagur; 2004-07-21 at 12:14 AM.

2004-07-22, 03:14 AM	#10
dubmuni2004 this is quite tasty Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: the best place to ride, colorado Age: 24 Posts: 619	its all greek to me. i dont understand government at all, and i understand politics a little bit. and i dont even read the newspaper. so if the usa blew up off of the earth i would have no idea __________________ blahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblah extreme_unicyclist@hotmail.com AIM: IhaveAsuckySN Last edited by dubmuni2004; 2004-07-22 at 03:14 AM.

2004-07-26, 10:48 AM	#15
GILD Waffle-Tosser, Time-bider and JCTK Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: the bustling metropolis of Nelspruitia, south africa Age: 45 Posts: 15,622	worth a read __________________ Three short Gs and a long E-flat™ - UniHoki If I'm Murdered, Don't Execute My Killer. harper MikeFule Seager BluntRM NAMASTE! Dave

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