Theistic Belief Poll

[Jeremy R]

What belief do you subscribe to?

[crazyjoe]

Haha.

Umm.

Where's the poll? :confused:

[Jeremy R]

I added it.

Buddhism is an atheist belief, as it is not oriented around God.

[hobo_chuck]

Hahahahaha, while we're at it, I might as well make one of these threads as well:p

[Jeremy R]

Grrr, my poll settings didn't stick!

[nubcake]

Haha.

Umm.

Where's the poll? :confused:

there is no god, therefore there is no poll.

[crazyjoe]

So by the votes it seems that 3 people voted honestly and one person just decided to click all the boxes except Christianity. That's really mature. Way to ruin a poll.

Normally I would say it was unicycledood trying to mess with you but I heard he's banned from the forums so I have no idea who it is.

[nimblelight]

I did it because I already voted in the other two, and this one isn't all that much different.


Buddhism is an atheist belief, as it is not oriented around God.

That's no reason to group it with nonrelgion...

Out of the infinite number of possible religions, an infinite number of them do not believe in your "God."

[crazyjoe]

You can see who voted for each thing in this poll.


I did it because I already voted in the other two, and this one isn't all that much different.

This poll is anonymous. You can't see who voted for what in this one.

[Jeremy R]

Buddhism is more of a life philosophy, and less a religion. That is why I grouped it there.

[nimblelight]

Fair enough.

[brendan]

Buddhism is more of a life philosophy, and less a religion. That is why I grouped it there.

But isnt christianity a philosophy?

They are all phylosophical ideas although their supporters will claim they are fact.

Atheism is far far from buddhism. Much further than christianity is to jeuism. Join those two if you want too!

Stupid post

[Hazmat]

This poll is anonymous. You can't see who voted for what in this one.
Why would you want to know who voted for what though??? :confused:

[MuniOrBust]

So by the votes it seems that 3 people voted honestly and one person just decided to click all the boxes except Christianity. That's really mature. Way to ruin a poll.


That's why I like to put some kind of "honey pot" choice in there for people who aren't really interested.

And multiple choice doesn't make a whole lot of sense here. Maybe that was a setting that didn't stick.

[MuniOrBust]

Buddhism is more of a life philosophy, and less a religion. That is why I grouped it there.

Oh... is this poll about religion? I thought it was about "where I fall".
I fall when I trip, and I get tripped up by many of the beliefs here.
Maybe that's why it's multiple choice, and I should select all choices except one? :D

[maestro8]

Buddhism is an atheist belief, as it is not oriented around God.
Buddhism is more of a life philosophy, and less a religion. That is why I grouped it there.
Yeah, and Buddhism is really only a brand of blue jeans that was popular in the 90s, which is why it's so big in east Asia today. They're always 10 years behind fashion. :rolleyes:

[_Ground_Zero_]

Why do you not have Pastafarianism (Flying Spaghetti Monster)?

It's in the last one (FSM)

:/


This poll is stupid.

Same for more than half of the other religion threads.

[ntappin]

I just changed religion, so your poll is now void.

[Joseppi]

Though none are centered around god:

Buddhism does not equal atheism does not equal agnosticism

[nimblelight]

atheism does not equal agnosticism
Almost true. Except for any actual profits out there, everyone is an agnostic.

However, almost all people who identify themselves as agnostics are, in fact, atheists.

[johnfoss]

However, almost all people who identify themselves as agnostics are, in fact, atheists.Are you saying those people are lying on the poll, or that your definition of agnostic is not as wide as theirs?

This poll is stupid.With very rare exception, every poll posted here is stupid. I've stopped complaining about it (for the most part)

Where do I fall? On the ground. Hopefully not in poison oak.

[BillyTheMountain]

Buddhism does not equal atheism does not equal agnosticism

A Buddhist friend of mine named Robin recently died of brain cancer. In her last days, when she was unresponsive, we kept an alter in specific position, with a certain number of candles burning and 7 water offerings that were changed daily.

After Robin died, we covered her body with a special cloth covered with designs. We brought a lama down from Boston. the lama arrived, we placed a plate of food next to her and burned material, all of which will nourish her soul for the journey. The lama prays and prays, all day and night, that Robin enters a good home with good parents.

No dead animals in the home for the next 49 days, at which time the lama returned for continued prayer, and Robin is already back in a body. At that ceremony, we had 100 candles burning. Many of Robin's friend's gathered with her husband and the lama. We shared a modest feast of fruit and nuts and sweets, and left a bit on our plate which was taken onto an offering plate in the back yard, for the spirits.

I was honored to participate in that process with her husband.

Billy

[nimblelight]

Are you saying those people are lying on the poll, or that your definition of agnostic is not as wide as theirs?

No. They usually just think that "atheist" sounds too extreme, and, like everyone else, they don't know for certain, so they use the word "agnostic."

[johnfoss]

Depends on your definition then. If someone isn't sure, are they not agnostic?

[Jeremy R]

FSM is a Mockery of religion with agnostic vibes.

[MuniOrBust]

FSM is a Mockery of religion with agnostic vibes.

In 2000 years, that statement might be as controversial as saying "Jesus is a Mockery of religion".

[nimblelight]

Depends on your definition then. If someone isn't sure, are they not agnostic?
Yes, they are.

[_Ground_Zero_]

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[BillyTheMountain]

Depends on your definition then. If someone isn't sure, are they not agnostic?

are you saying that a person of otherwise strong Faith, who is undergoing a crisis of Faith, is in that moment an agnostic?

[nimblelight]

are you saying that a person of otherwise strong Faith, who is undergoing a crisis of Faith, is in that moment an agnostic?

I'm saying everyone's an agnostic, unless there are currently any true prophets.

Faith is not a substitute for knowledge.

[BillyTheMountain]

I'm saying everyone's an agnostic, unless there are currently any true prophets.

Faith is not a substitute for knowledge.

silly wabbit.

knowledge has little to do with faith.

does your partner love you? or is your partner just ACTING like she loves you? just saying the right words? you cannot have knowledge of this, but you can have faith.

is your partner faithful to you? you cannot know this (because maybe she paid your investigator to lie to you), but you can have faith.

[MuniOrBust]

silly wabbit.

knowledge has little to do with faith.

does your partner love you? or is your partner just ACTING like she loves you? just saying the right words? you cannot have knowledge of this, but you can have faith.

is your partner faithful to you? you cannot know this (because maybe she paid your investigator to lie to you), but you can have faith.

Also, Trix are for kids.

[dudewithasock]

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[Mikefule]

(Buzzcocks)

I Believe In


In these times of contention it's not my intention to make things plain
I'm looking through mirrors to catch the reflection that can't be mine
I'm losing control now I'll just have to slow down a thought or two
I can't feel the future and I'm not even certain that there is a past

I believe in the worker's revolution
And I believe in the final solution
I believe in
I believe in
I believe in the shape of things to come
And I believe in I'm not the only one
Yes I believe in
I believe in

When I poison my system I take thoughts and twist them into shapes
I'm reaching my nadir and I haven't an idea of what to do
I'm painting by numbers but can't find the colours that fill you in
I'm not even knowing if I'm coming or going if to end or begin

I believe in the immaculate conception
And I believe in the resurrection
And I believe in
I believe in
I believe in the elixir of youth
And I believe in the absolute truth
Yes I believe in
I believe in

There is no love in this world anymore
There is no love in this world anymore

I've fallen from favour while trying to savour experience
I'm seeing things clearly but it has quite nearly blown my mind
It's the aim of existence to offer resistance to the flow of time
Everything is and that is why it is will be the line

I believe in perpetual motion
And I believe in perfect devotion
I believe in
I believe in
I believe in the things I've never had
I believe in my Mum and my Dad
And I believe in
I believe in

There is no love in this world anymore
There is no love in this world anymore

I'm skippin' the pages of a book that takes ages for the foreword to end
Triangular cover concealing another aspect from view
My relative motion is just an illusion from stopping too fast
The essence of being these feelings I'm feeling I just want them to last

I believe in original sin
And I believe what I believe in
Yes I believe in
I believe in
I believe in the web of fate
And I believe in I'm going to be late
So I'll be leavin'
What I believe in

There is no love in this world anymore

[hobo_chuck]

I believe in original sin


It always fascinates me, the ways that religion tries to convince people that they need it.

Buddhism: Life is suffering, caused by attachment. We can reach a state without suffering only by following the ways of the Buddha.
Christianity: We are all tainted by the sins of our ancestors, and salvation is only through Christ.
Islam: People do not know what is good for them. We must submit to Allah's wisdom if we are to live properly.

[BillyTheMountain]

It always fascinates me, the ways that religion tries to convince people that they need it.

Buddhism: Life is suffering, caused by attachment. We can reach a state without suffering only by following the ways of the Buddha.
Christianity: We are all tainted by the sins of our ancestors, and salvation is only through Christ.
Islam: People do not know what is good for them. We must submit to Allah's wisdom if we are to live properly.

You, like most people, hold significant misconceptions about religions you have rejected.

[hobo_chuck]

You, like most people, hold significant misconceptions about religions you have rejected.

Like what? In that last post under Buddhism, for example, I really just summarized the Four Noble Truths, right?

[BillyTheMountain]

You're argument requires the word "only," which is not necessarily true. Buddha never renounced his birth religion of Hinduism, just as Jesus never renounced Judaism.

From http://www.ch-of-christ.beaverton.or.us/Buddhism.htm :

“One of the most fundamental problems in Buddhism is that no one is certain what ‘true Buddhism’ is. For one thing, the manuscript evidence is far too late and unreliable. Buddha’s words were never recorded, which makes it impossible to ascertain if what we have are the genuine words of Buddha or merely those of his disciples centuries later. Second, the manuscripts we do possess are so contradictory that one despairs of ever finding truth. Buddha told his disciples they could ‘abolish all the lesser and minor precepts’. Unfortunately, he never identified what these precepts were” (p. 59).

Buddhism and Reality

“This whole world of delusion is nothing but a shadow caused by the mind….there is no world….outside the mind…..To Buddha every definitive thing is illusion…things have no reality in themselves but are like heat haze” (The Buddha). “It is a mistake to regard this world as either a temporal world or as a real one. But ignorant people of this world assume that this is a real world and proceed to act upon that absurd assumption. But as this world is only an illusion, their acts, being based on error, only lead them into harm and suffering. A wise man, recognizing the world is but an illusion, does not act as if it were real, so he escapes the suffering” (The Teaching of Buddha p. 112).

[Mikefule]

“One of the most fundamental problems in Buddhism is that no one is certain what ‘true Buddhism’ is. For one thing, the manuscript evidence is far too late and unreliable. Buddha’s words were never recorded, which makes it impossible to ascertain if what we have are the genuine words of Buddha or merely those of his disciples centuries later. Second, the manuscripts we do possess are so contradictory that one despairs of ever finding truth.

We only have what people say he said - and you tell talk from Buddha.* Not that different from Jesus, really.

I may not be religious, but I don't disagree with a single word Jesus wrote. Same with the Buddha and, for that matter, Socrates. We know Plato gave additional weight to some of his own ideas by putting them into Socrates' mouth. Thankfully, I am sure that no religious disciple or idealogue would have done the same thing to the Buddha, or Jesus.

*Pun for UK readers of a certain age.

[hobo_chuck]

Billy, I didn't mean to write "only."

Don't nitpick me and I might consider not nitpicking you.

[BillyTheMountain]

It always fascinates me, the ways that religion tries to convince people that they need it.

Buddhism: Life is suffering, caused by attachment. We can reach a state without suffering only by following the ways of the Buddha.

The only seemed significant to your argument

[Mikefule]

The only seemed significant to your argument

I find myself in agreement with Billy, here.:eek:

[hobo_chuck]

I wasn't making much of an argument... or do you disagree that religions try to get more followers in various ways?

One of my local cults has girls that go into the town to "recruit":rolleyes:

[Mikefule]

I wasn't making much of an argument... or do you disagree that religions try to get more followers in various ways?

One of my local cults has girls that go into the town to "recruit":rolleyes:

Your argument seemed to me to be that for each of the three religions you mentioned (and, by implication, for many other religions) the religion introduced an artificial problem which could only be solved by following the religion.

I broadly agree with you on that.

Then when Billy challenged you, you withdrew the word "only".

Billy said that he felt that the word "only" was pretty central to what you had been saying.

Although I agree with the point you were making, I agree with Billy's analysis that the word "only" was central to what you were saying previously. I was surprised that you withdrew it.

In response, you have shifted your ground to a less substantive point. of course religions try to recruit. Very few organisations don't try to recruit.

[hobo_chuck]

Hey, the word "only" works with Christianity and Islam. Both claim that the followers of the other will go to hell.
Incidentally, do you know of any means of severing attachment that do NOT resemble the ways of the Buddha? How well do they work in comparison?

In any case, that wasn't my point to begin with. I just said that recruitment was interesting to me.

The recruitment methods of smaller cults can be even more interesting sometimes;)

[BillyTheMountain]

Most Christians (especially Catholics) and Muslims have nothing to say about people who don't follow their religion, just like most atheists have nothing to say about non-atheists.

It's not inherent in atheism christianity, or Islam to condemn others who think differently. There have been Muslim sheikhs who follow other religions, and christian ministers who follow Islam without giving up their christian faith.

My point is that most people just are not as intolerant as you seem to believe. You have a limited sample.

[hobo_chuck]

Yes, I agree that there are moderates, but in Islam, even the moderates are condemned( EDIT: condemned is the wrong word to use here. Billy just tricked me into using it with his last post. I didn't use it before now.. I)f you reject even one tenant of the Qur'an...



Bismillaahir Rahmaanir Raheem

Dear Reader,

The purpose of this message is to invite you to think of and contemplate about the real purpose of your life on this earth and where you will end up in the Hereafter. Will you end up in Paradise or in Hell-Fire? Please, take note, that when you have read this message, you are considered to have legislatively been given proof and been informed of the admonition of all messengers, and after which you will not be excused by ignorance:

Take note that Allah the Almighty is the One and Only God. He is Eternal. He is Absolute. He has not begotten and has not been begotten and no one is like Him.

* Allah says: “Say: He is Allah, the One; Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; and there is none like unto Him.” Surah No.112, Verses 1-4.
* Allah says: “He is the Creator of the heavens and the earth: He has made for you pairs from among cattle: by this means does He multiply you: there is nothing whatever like unto Him, and He is the One that hears and sees.” Surah No. 42, Verse No. 11.

Learn that Allah the Almighty is the Creator of all creatures. There is no god for this universe and what it holds but Allah.

* Allah says: “Allah is the Creator Of all things, and He is the Guardian and Disposer of all affairs.” Surah No.39 Verse 62.
* Allah says: “Such is Allah, your Lord, The Creator of all things, there is no god but He: Then how you are deluded away from the Truth!” Surah No.40, Verse No.62.
* Allah says: “To Allah belongs all that is in the heavens and earth: To Allah do all matters return.” Surah No.3 Verse No. 109.

Be informed that Allah the Almighty has created you for one single purpose which is to worship Him alone.

* Allah says: “I have only created Jinns and men, that they may serve Me”. Surah No.51 Verse No. 56.

Allah says: “And they have been commanded no more than this: To worship Allah, offering Him sincere devotion, being true (in faith); to establish regular prayer; and to give zakat (i.e. charity given to the needy); and that is the Religion Right and Straight”. Surah No.98, Verse No. 5.

Understand that it is out of sincerity and purity of worship to Allah to avoid worshipping the created whoever and whatever they may be.

* Allah says: “Certainly they disbelieve who say: “(Allah) is Christ the son of Mary." But said Christ: "O Children of Israel! Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord.” Whoever joins other gods with Allah, - Allah will forbid him the Garden, and the Fire will be his abode. There will for the wrong-doers be no one to help.” Surah No. 5, Verse No. 72.

Allah says: “Say: "I do no more than invoke my Lord, and I join not with Him any (false god).” Surah No 72, Verse No. 20.

Allah says: “Say: "I am but a man like yourselves, (but) the inspiration has come to me, that your God is one God: whoever expects to meet his Lord, let him work righteousness, and, in the worship of his Lord, admit no one as partner.” Surah No. 18, Verse No. 110.

Allah says: “Those to whom We have given the Book rejoice at what hath been revealed unto thee: but there are among the clans those who reject a part thereof. Say: "I am commanded to worship Allah, and not to join partners with Him. Unto Him do I call, and unto Him is my return.” Surah No. 13, Verse No. 36.

Learn that he, who worships Allah joining with Him another whoever or whatever it may be, has associated partners with Allah and consequently his deeds will turn fruitless and he will be among the losers.

* Allah says: “But it has already been revealed to thee, - as it was to those before thee, - “if thou wert to join (gods with Allah), truly fruitless will be thy work (in life), and thou wilt surely be among the losers.” Surah No. 29, Verse No. 65.

Allah says: “This is the Guidance of Allah: He giveth that guidance to whom He pleaseth, of His servants if they were to join other gods with Him, all that they did would be vain for them.” Surah No. 6, Verse No.88.

Take note that Allah the Almighty sent all Prophets and Messengers to reinforce and remind people that there is no god but Allah. That is nothing is worthy of being worshipped but Allah.

* Allah says: “For we assuredly sent amongst every people a Messenger, (with the command), “serve Allah, and eschew Evil”: of the people were some whom Allah guided, and some on whom Error became inevitably (established). So travel through the earth, and see what was the end of those who denied (the Truth).” Surah No.16, Verse No. 36.

Allah says: “Not a messenger did We send before thee without this inspiration sent by Us to him: that there is no god but I; therefore worship and serve Me.” Surah 21 Verse 25. There is no prophet who said to his people but: “We sent Noah to his people. He said: “O my people! Worship Allah! Ye have no other god but Him. I fear for you the Punishment of a dreadful Day!” Surah No. 7, Verse No. 59.

Be informed that having faith and believing in all Prophets and Messengers is a must. If anyone rejects faith or doesn’t believe one Prophet or Messenger of Allah’s the Almighty, they are rejecting faith in Allah and disbelieving Him and all His Prophets and Messengers.

* Allah says: “The Messenger believeth in what hath been revealed to him from his Lord, as do the men of faith, each one (of them) believeth in Allah, His angels, His books, and His Messengers. “We make no distinction (they say) between one and another of his Messengers.” And they say: “We hear, and we obey: (we seek) Thy forgiveness, our Lord, and to Thee is the end of all journeys.” Surah No. 2, Verse No. 285.

Allah says: “‘Verily it has been revealed to us that the Chastisement (awaits) those who reject and turn away.” Surah No. 20, Verse No. 48.

Allah says: “And who does more wrong than he who invents a lie against Allah or rejects the Truth when it reaches him? Is there not a home in Hell for those who reject Faith?” Surah No.29, Verse No. 68.

Allah says: “Those who reject the Book and the (revelations) with which we sent Our messengers: but soon shall they know.” Surah No. 40, Verse No. 70.

Be informed that Muhammad bin Abudullah bin Abdullmutalib (Peace and Blessings of Allah Be Upon Him) (PBBUH ) is the Messenger of Allah, who was sent by Allah as mercy to the worlds, giving glad tidings and warnings and that he is the seal of all Prophets and messengers and there is no Prophet after him.

* Allah says: “Muhammad is no more than a Messenger: many were the Messengers that passed away before him. If he died or were slain, will ye then turn back on your heels? If any did turn back on his heels, not the least harm will he do to Allah; but Allah (on the other hand) will swiftly reward those who (serve Him) with gratitude.” Surah No. 3, Verse No. 144.

Allah says: “Those who follow the Messenger, the unlettered Prophet whom they find mentioned in their own (Scriptures),-in the Taurat and the Gospel; - for he commands them what is just and Forbids them what is evil; he allows them as lawful what is good (and pure) and prohibits them from what is bad (and impure): He releases them from their heavy burdens and from the yokes that are upon them. So it is those who believe in him, honour him, help him, and follow the Light which is sent down with him, - it is they who will prosper.” Surah No. 7, verse No. 157.


Allah says: “Say: “O men! I am sent unto you all, as the Messenger of Allah, to who belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth: there is no god but He: it is He that giveth both life and death. So believe in Allah and His Messenger. The unlettered Prophet, who believeth in Allah and His words, follow him that (so) ye may be guided.” Surah No. 7, Verse No. 158.


Allah says: “Now hath come to you a Messenger from amongst yourselves: it grieves him that you should suffer, ardently anxious is he over you: to the Believers is he most kind and merciful”. Surah No. 9, Verse No. 128.

Allah says: “Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but (he is) the Messenger of Allah, and the Seal of the Prophets. And Allah has full knowledge of all things.” Surah No. 33, Verse No. 40.

Allah says: “Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah…” Surah No 48, Verse No. 29.

Allah says: “And remember, Jesus, the Son of Mary, said: “O Children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Taurat (which came) before me, and giving Glad Tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad. But when he came to them with Clear Signs, They said, “This is evident sorcery!” Surah No.61, Verse No.6. Take note that Allah the Almighty revealed to Muhammad (PBBUH) the Holy Quran which is the word of Allah and which contains Guidance and Light for the worlds. It has alsoexplanation of everything.

[hobo_chuck]

* Allah says: “Ramadan is the (month) in which was sent down The Qur’an, as a guide to mankind, also clear (Signs) for guidance and judgment (between right and wrong) so every one of you who is present (at his home) during that month should spent it in fasting, but if anyone is ill, or on a journey, the prescribed period (should be made up) by days later. Allah intends every facility for you: He does not want to put you to difficulties. (He wants you) to complete the prescribed period, and glorify Him in that He has guided you; and perchance ye shall be grateful.” Surah No.2, Verse No.185.

Allah says: “Say: “What thing is most weighty in evidence?” say: “Allah is witness between me and you; this Qur’an hath been revealed to me by inspiration. That I may warn you and all whom it reaches. Can ye possibly bear witness that besides Allah there are other gods?” say: “Nay! I cannot bear witness!” Surah No. 6, Verse No. 19.

Allah says: “Verily this Quran doth guide to that which is most right (or stable), and giveth the glad tidings to the Believers who work deeds of righteousness, that they shall have a magnificent reward.” Surah No. 17, Verse No. 9.

Allah says: “We send down (stage by stage) of the Quran that which is a healing and a mercy to those who believe: to the unjust it causes nothing but loss after loss.” Surah No. 17, Verse No. 82.

Allah says: “As for thee, thou receives theQuran from One All-Wise, All-Knowing.” Surah No. 27, Verse No. 6.

Allah says: “And We have explained to man, in this Quran, every kind of similitude: yet greater part of men refuse (to receive it) except with gratitude!” Surah No. 17, Verse No. 89.

Appreciate that the Holy Quran, which was revealed to Allah’s Prophet (PBBUH), has been the Greatest Evident Miracle Ever. It is continuing and everlastingly challenging all mankind gathered together to produce something like it or like one of its Surahs.

* Allah says: “Say: ‘if the whole of mankind and Jinns were to gather together to produce the like of this Quran, they could not produce the like thereof, even if they backed up each other with help and support.’” Surah No. 17, Verse No. 88.

Allah says: “And if ye are in doubt as to what We have revealed from time to time to Our servant then produce a Sura like thereunto; and call your witness or helpers (if there are any) besides Allah, if ye are truthful.” Surah No. 2, Verse No. 23.

Be informed that Allah has ordered all mankind no matter what their colours, sexes; languages may be to believe in Muhammad the Prophet (PBBUP), follow him and obey him. He who obeys the Prophet (PBBUH) obeys Allah and consequently he will be on the right path; and; he who disobeysthe Prophet (PBBUH), disobeys Allah and consequently he will be on the wrong path.

* Allah says: “Say: “Obey Allah and His Messenger”: but if they turn back, Allah loveth not those who reject faith.” Surah No. 3, Verse No. 32.


Allah says: “O ye who believe! Obey Allah and His Messenger, and turn not away from him when ye hear (him speak).” Surah No. 8, Verse No. 20.

Allah says: “He who obeys the Messenger, obeys Allah…” Surah No. 4, Verse No. 80.

Allah says: “Say: “if ye do love Allah, follow me: Allah will love you and forgive you your sins: for Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most merciful.” Surah No. 3, Verse No. 31. Take note that he who hears of Muhammad the Prophet (PBBUH) and neither believes in him nor follows him is a disbeliever in Allah, rejecting faith in Him andconsequently worthy to be tortured on the Day of Judgement.

* Allah says: “We know indeed the grief which their words do cause thee: It is not thee they reject: It is the Signs of Allah, which the wicked deny.” Surah No. 6, Verse No. 33.

Allah says: “On that day those who reject Faith and disobey the Messenger will wish that the earth were made one with them: but never will they hide a single fact from Allah!” Surah No. 4, Verse No. 42.

Allah says: “If anyone contends with the Messenger even after Guidance has been plainly conveyed to him, and follows a path other than that becoming to men to Faith, we shall leave him in the path he has chosen, and land him in Hell,- What an evil refuge!” Surah No. 4, Verse No. 115.


The Prophet (PBBUH) says: “By the One in whose hands Muhammad’s soul is, if anyone, anywhere in the world, whether a Jew or Christian hears of me and dies without believing in my Message will definitely be amongst those in Hell-Fire.” (Muslim)

Take note that the Religion before Allah is Islam and it is the religion of all Prophets and Messengers. No religion is accepted of anyone but Islam.

* Allah says: “And Abraham enjoined upon his sons and so did Jacob;” Oh my sons! Allah hath chosen the Faith for you; then die not except in the state of submission (to Me).” Surah No. 2, Verse No.132.


Allah says: “The Religion before Allah is Islam..” Surah No. 3, Verse No. 19.

Allah says: “If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah) never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter he will be in the ranks of those who have lost.” Surah No. 3, Verse No.85.

Be informed that resurrection after death is coming and absolutely true; the Hour is coming and absolutely true and theaccountability on doomsday is absolutely true.

* Allah says: “Lost indeed are they who treat it as a falsehood that they must meet Allah, - until on a sudden the Hour is on them, and they say: “Ah! Woe unto us that we neglected; for they bear their burdens on their backs, and evil indeed are the burdens that they bear?” Surah No. 6 Verse No. 31.

Allah says: “Verily the Hour is coming- I have almost kept it hidden- for every soul to receive its reward by the measure of its Endeavour.” Surah No. 20, Verse No. 15.

Allah says: “And verily the Hour will come: there can be no doubt about it, or about (the fact) that Allah will raise up all who are in the graves.” Surah No. 22, Verse No. 7.

Allah says: “The Unbelievers say, “Never to us will come the Hour”: say, “Nay! But most surely, by my Lord, it will come upon you;…” Surah No 34, Verse No. 3.

Allah says: “The Hour will certainly come: therein is no doubt: yet most men believe not.” Surah No. 40, Verse No. No. 59.

Allah says: “Again, on the Day of Judgement, will ye be raised up.” Surah No. 23, Verse No. 16.

Allah says: “Allah is never unjust in the least degree: if there is any good (done), He doubleth it, and giveth from His Own self a great reward.” Surah No. 4, Verse No. 40.

Allah says: “Then shall anyone who has done an atom’s weight of good, see it! And anyone who has done an atom’s weight of evil, shall see it.” Surah No. 99, Verses Nos. 7-8. Learn that Paradise and its bounties are absolutely true, therein everlasting goodness and bounties of which no ear has ever heard of, or an eye has ever seen or a mind has ever been able to imagine. All this has been prepared Allah’s righteous believers.

* Allah says: “The parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised! - beneath it flow rivers; perpetual is the fruits therof and the shade therein: such is the End of the Righteous and the End of the Unbelievers is the Fire.” Surah No. 13, Verse No. 35.


Allah says: “But give glad tidings to those who believe and work righteousness, that their portion is Gardens, beneath which rivers flow, every time they are fed with fruits therefrom, they say: “Why, this what we were fed with before,” for that are given things in similitude; and they have therein spouses purified; and they abide therein (forever).” Surah No. 2, Verse No. 25.

Allah says: “But those who believe and work deeds of righteousness- to them shall We give a Home in Heaven, - lofty mansions beneath which flow rivers, -to dwell therein for aye; an excellent reward for those who do (good)!” Surah No. 29, Verse No. 58.

Allah says: “Verily the Companions of the Garden shall that Day have joy in all that they do.” Surah No. 36, Verse No. 55.

Allah says: “(Here is) the description of the Garden which the righteous are promised: in it are rivers of water unstaling; rivers of Milk of which the taste never changes; rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink; and rivers of honey pure and clear. In it there are for them all kinds of fruits; and Forgiveness from their Lord, (can those in such Bliss) be compared to such as shall dwell fro ever in the Fire and be given to drink, boiling water, so that it cuts up their bowels (to pieces)?” Surah No.47, Verse No. 15.

Allah says: “Be quick in the race for forgiveness from your Lord and for a Garden whose width is that (of the whole) of the heavens and of the earth, prepared for the righteous.” Surah No.3 Verse No 133.


Allah says: “Be ye foremost (in seeking) forgiveness from your Lord, and a Garden (of Bliss), the width whereof is as the width of heaven and earth prepared for those who believe in Allah and His messengers: that is the Grace of Allah, which He bestows on whom He pleases: and Allah is the Lord of Grace abounding.” Surah No. 57, Verse No. 21.

Learn that the Hell fire is absolutely true; its torture in is true; and fierce. It has a torture that is extremely fierce, harsh, and perpetual. Its torture is something that no ear has ever heard of, or an eye has ever seen or a mind has ever been able to imagine. All this has been prepared for those who associate partners with Allah and who made it false to believe in Allah.

* Allah says: “Know they not that for those who oppose Allah and His Messenger is the Fire of Hell? - Wherein they shall dwell. That is the supreme disgrace.” Surah No.9, Verse No. 63.

Allah says: “…on the Day of Judgement we shall gather them together, prone on their faces, blind, dumb, and deaf: their abode will be Hell: every time it shows abatement, We shall increase for them the fierceness of the Fire.” Surah No. 17, Verse No. 97.

Allah says: “And We shall drive the sinners to hell, (like thirsty cattle driven down to water)” Surah No. 19, Verse No. 86.

Allah says: “Verily he who comes to his Lord as a sinner (at Judgement), -for him is Hell: therein shall he neither die nor live.” Surah No. 20, Verse No. 74.

Allah says: “But those who reject (Allah) - for them will be the Fire of Hell: not term shall be determined for them, so they should die, nor shall its Chastisement be lightened for them. Thus do WE reward every ungrateful.” Surah No. 35, Verse No. 36.

Allah says: “The Unbelievers will be led to Hell in groups: until, when they arrive there, its gates will be opened. And its Keepers will say, “Did not messengers come to you from among yourselves, rehearsing to you the Signs of your Lord, and warning you of the Meeting of this Day of yours?” The answer will be: “True: but the Decree of Chastisement has been proved true against the Unbelievers!” Surah No. 39, Verse No. 71.

Take note that if you die believing in the oneness of God and in Muhammad (PBBUH), Allah’s last Messenger, you will be amongst those who will be saved and led into Paradise to live in its bounties for ever.

* Allah says: “But such as come to Him as Believers who have worked righteous deeds, for them are ranks exalted.” Surah No. 20, Verse No. 75.

Whereas, if you die associating partners with Allah, disbelieving in Him and rejecting faith in Him, you will be among thosewhowill be in Hell Fire for ever and ever.

* Allah says: “But whosoever turns away from My Message, verily for him is a life narrowed down, and We shall raisehim up blind on the Day of Judgement.” SurahNo. 20, Verse 124.


Allah says: “And who does more wrong than one to whom are recited the Signs of his Lord, and who then turns way therefrom? Verily from those who transgress We shall exact (due) retribution.” Surah No. 32, Verse no. 22.

Allah says: “Verily he who comes to his Lord as a sinner (at Judgement),-for him is Hell: therein shall he neither die nor live.” Surah No. 20, Verse No. 74

Allah says: “…and if any of you turn back from their faith and die in unbelief, their works will bear no fruit in this life and in the Hereafter; they will be companions of the Fire and will abide therein.” Surah No. 2, Verse No. 217

Be informed that there is no force in religion; the right path is clear and the wrong path is clear. So after you have read and thought of and contemplated about the above message, you will not be excused by ignorance. As the warnings and message of all messengers have now reached you, you will be brought to account and be accountable on the Day of Judgment when there is no benefit for money or children but only for those who will come with good deeds and clear hearts. Finally take note that the devils of mankind and Jinn’s and the wicked of the learned among them are scheming day and night to prevent you from listening to this message and to any other message that speaks of the Truth.

We pray to Allah that He helps you find the right path and guide you to what pleases Him

Praise be to Allah, the Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds

This is totally random, but at the end... are Cherisher and Sustainer really words?

Meh.

And yes, I did just pull a Billy-style copy pasta.