View Full Version : Do I know the answer to this question? (paradoxes)
Jeremy R
2009-03-03, 02:55 AM
Paradox Thread! Woooohoooo.
Rezinha
2009-03-03, 03:16 AM
Maybe you do. It depends.
uni57
2009-03-03, 03:51 AM
Do I know the answer to this question?
Ouch. That question really makes my brain hurt. It's a yes/no question, but the question references itself, which is devoid of content. I. Think. I'm. Losing. Consciousness...
Be careful of the power of paradoxes. In the original Star Trek series episode I, Mudd (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I,_Mudd), the android Norman is shut down by telling him the Liar Paradox. Follow the link and read the last paragraph in the "Plot" section. Only use the power of paradoxes for good.
Did you make that up? I'm impressed.
UniBrier
2009-03-03, 01:52 PM
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Triball
2009-03-03, 02:02 PM
Be careful of the power of paradoxes. In the original Star Trek series episode I, Mudd (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I,_Mudd), the android Norman is shut down by telling him the Liar Paradox. Follow the link and read the last paragraph in the "Plot" section. Only use the power of paradoxes for good.
But, beware. Some androids (like Robot Santa in Futurama's episode titled 'A Tale of Two Santas') have paradox-absorbing crumple zones, making them immune to paradoxes. I recommend having a backup strategy when trying to defeat androids with a paradox.
Zzagg
2009-03-03, 02:41 PM
"Do I know the answer to this question?"
I fused a few brain cells on this one but I think that "yes" is a logicaly correct answer.
Now how does it look like this way:
"Don't I know the answer to this question?"
crazyjoe
2009-03-03, 02:54 PM
The sentence you are reading right now is false.
uni57
2009-03-03, 04:14 PM
Can someone express a paradox in Limerick form?
harper
2009-03-03, 04:20 PM
Pair-o-docs
UniBrier
2009-03-03, 05:32 PM
Pair-o-docsHey, there is a girl in that pic. One of them must be the nurse! Find a better pic.
.Another for the hard of hearing:
Into the blue
2009-03-03, 07:26 PM
I was going to join in the picture fun by posting a pair o' dicks.
I was thinking Dick Cheney and Dick Van Dyke.
Never, ever put 'pair o' dicks' into a google image search.
Biggestbtc
2009-03-03, 08:43 PM
Once in a while I run into a thread that I don't understand. It happened again.
Never, ever put 'pair o' dicks' into a google image search.
Thanks for the heads-up on that. Pretty much everything has one perverted meaning or another.
Jeremy R
2009-03-03, 08:46 PM
Yeah, I made that one up. A few that I made up 2 years ago (just remembered)
The sentence below is false.
The sentence above is true.
If today were yesterday, than would it be tomorrow?
ghenzo
2009-03-03, 09:00 PM
The barber shaves all and only those who do not shave by themselves
Jeremy R
2009-03-03, 09:04 PM
does 1 = 2?
Lets see.
1*0 = 2*0
cancel out the 0's
1 = 2
hehehehe
Triball
2009-03-03, 09:15 PM
does 1 = 2?
Lets see.
1*0 = 2*0
cancel out the 0's
1 = 2
hehehehe
A massive slap on the face of mathematics ... it dodges the slap.
Jeremy R
2009-03-03, 09:58 PM
Nah it was just a divide by zero
Biggestbtc
2009-03-03, 11:18 PM
If today were yesterday, than would it be tomorrow?
Yes.
"Nice weather were having yesterday!" Something a friend and I used to say.
Biggestbtc
2009-03-04, 12:44 AM
does 1 = 2?
Lets see.
1*0 = 2*0
cancel out the 0's
1 = 2
hehehehe
Did you ever notice that math books say, "Divide both sides by any non-zero quantity." There's a reason for that little word.
Paradox: A towel gets wet while drying.
Jeremy R
2009-03-04, 01:00 AM
And hence the heheheheh and other comment.
edit:
1 < 2
1+1 < 2+1
2 < 3
2*7 < 3*7
14 < 21
14*0 <=> 21*0??????
# include<stdio.h>
main()
{
int a,b;
a = 1;
b = 2;
while(a < b)
{
a = a*0;
b = b*0;
printf("wtf mates? %d %d", a, b);
}
}
Biggestbtc
2009-03-04, 02:45 AM
And hence the heheheheh and other comment.
edit:
1 < 2
1+1 < 2+1
2 < 3
2*7 < 3*7
14 < 21
14*0 <=> 21*0??????
# include<stdio.h>
main()
{
int a,b;
a = 1;
b = 2;
while(a < b)
{
a = a*0;
b = b*0;
printf("wtf mates? %d %d", a, b);
}
}
Oh.
uni57
2009-03-04, 04:38 AM
I ran the C program in my head, but nothing interesting happens. The loop runs once and prints "wtf mates? 0 0". Am I missing something?
Jeremy R
2009-03-04, 04:41 AM
yes. Pay attention to the math.
1 < 2
1*0 < 2*0 ?
uni57
2009-03-04, 05:05 AM
yes. Pay attention to the math.
1 < 2
1*0 < 2*0 ?Ah, yes. Now I see the connection between the math and the program. The presence of the loop confused me. I think an 'if' statement would have been better. In fact, you are lucky that zero has magical properties, otherwise you would have an infinite loop.
Okay, since we are programming again, I'm going to explain the "joke" in my sig. It's an apparent paradox, so I think it fits this thread. But not right now (need food and sleep)...
SirSkillz
2009-03-04, 05:20 AM
i am lying
Jeremy R
2009-03-04, 10:03 PM
Solved it. The answer isn't zero equals zero and hence 1 = 2, it is 1 <= 2
This thread needs to stop before it rips a hole in the fabric of the time and space continuum.
Biggestbtc
2009-03-05, 03:11 AM
If the universe is everything, and scientists say that the universe is expanding, what is it expanding into?
Jeremy R
2009-03-05, 04:27 AM
The universe is not everything. Thats the multiverse. And your answer for whats that going into? Particle anti particle pairs.
maestro8
2009-03-05, 05:48 AM
If the universe is everything, and scientists say that the universe is expanding, what is it expanding into?
The universe isn't expanding into anything. Simply speaking, the universe is all there is. The expansion of the universe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_expansion_of_space) you're hearing about is happening on a local scale: the space between any two local objects (two stars or two galaxies) is becoming greater.
The universe is not everything. Thats the multiverse.
Without sparking a metaphysical debate, as far as we're concerned, there is no such thing as a "multiverse". Most parallel universe theories are fiction at worst, and a mathematical construct at best... they're nothing you nor I can ever experience.
uni57
2009-03-05, 06:45 AM
Well, stockholders are always looking for growth, so I guess it's a good thing.
Biggestbtc
2009-03-05, 12:54 PM
I should've put "quote marks" around my previous question because I did not come up with it.
Just like this one: "If fire fighters fight fires and crime fighters fight crime, what do freedom fighters fight?"
Jeremy R
2009-03-05, 02:56 PM
The universe isn't expanding into anything. Simply speaking, the universe is all there is. The expansion of the universe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_expansion_of_space) you're hearing about is happening on a local scale: the space between any two local objects (two stars or two galaxies) is becoming greater.
Without sparking a metaphysical debate, as far as we're concerned, there is no such thing as a "multiverse". Most parallel universe theories are fiction at worst, and a mathematical construct at best... they're nothing you nor I can ever experience.
Then where are those naughty electrons always popping off to?
edit: heres one
Where was your last post?
johnfoss
2009-03-05, 06:43 PM
The universe is not everything. Thats the multiverse.The multiverse is expanding too.
Where was your last post? Do they not have names and numbers? Each thread has a unique URL, and each post within each thread a number.
The Unicyclist.com universe is expanding too. :D
maestro8
2009-03-05, 06:53 PM
Then where are those naughty electrons always popping off to?
I don't understand your question. Do you understand your question? Take a look at the conservation laws (conservation of energy, momentum, charge, etc.) before you get back to me.
The multiverse is expanding too.
If it existed, the multiverse would be doing everything. Expanding, contracting, stagnating, etc. The multiverse as posited by string theorists includes all possible realities.
johnfoss
2009-03-05, 07:00 PM
If it existed, the multiverse would be doing everything.For every universe that's getting really, really big, there's another one where it's even bigger.
Or smaller.
There's even one where Maestro8 posts stupid questions, doesn't search, and whines when 1wheelwonder puts him in his place. :D
Biggestbtc
2009-03-05, 08:36 PM
Have I been to that one?
1-wheeled-grape
2009-03-05, 08:45 PM
If I try to fail, and succeed, what have I done?
johnfoss
2009-03-05, 09:05 PM
If I try to fail, and succeed, what have I done?You've successfully failed. Good for you! Now look at the upside. There's always an upside.
1-wheeled-grape
2009-03-05, 09:06 PM
Its not a job, more of a hobby :D
Oh the fun you find in stupidity...
Jeremy R
2009-03-05, 10:51 PM
Do they not have names and numbers? Each thread has a unique URL, and each post within each thread a number.
The Unicyclist.com universe is expanding too. :D
It's a paradox because if you go to reply, say your post is in thread A. This is thread B. By the time you reply in thread B to my question, it will not be your last post.
I don't understand your question. Do you understand your question? Take a look at the conservation laws (conservation of energy, momentum, charge, etc.) before you get back to me.
Electrons 'dissapear' from our universe, and reappear. They are shared in the universes.
maestro8
2009-03-05, 11:06 PM
Electrons 'dissapear' from our universe, and reappear. They are shared in the universes.
I see you didn't bother to do any research. I'm sure you'll have a great time at Bob Jones University.
Biggestbtc
2009-03-05, 11:16 PM
Jeremy, are you going to BJU? That would be a paradox. Just like "If it is tourist season, why can't we shoot them?"
Because we don't advocate violence...
1wheelwonder
2009-03-08, 01:19 AM
Someone called?
petad
2009-03-10, 10:42 PM
I like this one, I guess it's kinda a paradox, but more a result of faulty logic.
A man was sentence to death on Sunday. He was told that he would be executed any day between the following Monday and the following Friday, and that whenever it is, it will be a surprise. Being a smart man, he ponders this sentence carefully. He figures that if he would be executed on Friday, it would not be a surprise because, come Friday, he would obviously not have been executed Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday. Therefore, he figures that he will not be executed on Friday. Using the same logic, he also eliminates Thursday, Wednesday, Tuesday, and Monday. He thinks to himself about how smart he is and how he will not be killed after all. The next day, Monday, he is executed, and it comes as a total surprise.
net_hippy
2009-03-11, 06:10 PM
Imagine a world without any hypothetical situations...
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