Obama Won!

[Brian O.]

Though, Don't forget that Bush isn't quite done yet. I foresee some bad things happening between now and Obama taking office.

Lets be happy for now at least.

[Goats_On_Unicycles]

Group hug anyone?

[1wheelwonder]

I for see alot of these threads

[dudewithasock]

post count + 1

[Brian O.]

Group hug anyone?

Group hug indeed!


On an unrelated note 1wheelwonder nabbed a photo I took for their user pic.

[feel the light]

Horribly you know, ;);););).

How shall we survive with that Harvard guy ? Who thinks he has a clue ?

[critter]

Uncle Tom goes to Washington.(Nader said it. I'm just the messenger)
Black people have no excuses now. Afro-americans can be anything.

I think Obama is cool. I consider him a Hawaiian guy more than a black guy. That's why he is cool. Barrack has the ALOHA spirit.

He will take more of my money:( I won't be able to buy that second Porsche:p

[Gilby]

He will take more of my money:( I won't be able to buy that second Porsche:p He's going to take much more than just your money.

[beeper]

He's going to take much more than just your money.

Gross.

[1wheelwonder]

I made this ipod thingy

[catinabag1]

i hope everyone likes being a democratic socialist republic and being poor. history has shown that capitalism is the better way of doing things. it gives people a reason to work hard. socialism takes away all drive for people to become the best they can because it doesn't matter if they work hard or not, you get the same amount of income. STUPID! history has shown socialism to be nice in concept but bad in practice.

[skrobo]

+1
and w/ all the abortions, lets just kill off our population while we are at it.
after all, obama is for killing the babies onthe table.

[dudewithasock]

Babies are overrated.

[SkierAlex]

i hope everyone likes being a democratic socialist republic and being poor. history has shown that capitalism is the better way of doing things. it gives people a reason to work hard. socialism takes away all drive for people to become the best they can because it doesn't matter if they work hard or not, you get the same amount of income. STUPID! history has shown socialism to be nice in concept but bad in practice.

I agree. Although I have almost no idea what each candidates policies were. Just that Obama was more left wing. He's gonna get assassinated by rednecks though, I'm pretty sure of it.

[catinabag1]

I agree. Although I have almost no idea what each candidates policies were. Just that Obama was more left wing. He's gonna get assassinated by rednecks though, I'm pretty sure of it.

which only leaves another idiot in office. i just wish people could see past his "look." he got elected for the same reason kennedy was. he is a good speaker that primises "change." i'm not taking anything away from kennedy at all, but you can not say that obama being a younger, better speaker with shallow promises won because he was more qualified to lead the country. it's all a high school popularity contest.

[Kyle_Destroyer]

i hope everyone likes being a democratic socialist republic and being poor. history has shown that capitalism is the better way of doing things. it gives people a reason to work hard. socialism takes away all drive for people to become the best they can because it doesn't matter if they work hard or not, you get the same amount of income. STUPID! history has shown socialism to be nice in concept but bad in practice.

Yeah, all those damn European Union countries and their socialism, don't they know that they're really just lazy and poor and their economy is crashing, the Euro is worth shit!

Oh wait.....

[saskatchewanian]

i hope everyone likes being a democratic socialist republic and being poor. history has shown that capitalism is the better way of doing things. it gives people a reason to work hard. socialism takes away all drive for people to become the best they can because it doesn't matter if they work hard or not, you get the same amount of income. STUPID! history has shown socialism to be nice in concept but bad in practice.

Interesting, but I somehow doubt that the US would ever truly have a socialist government (by our standards anyway)

It would be interesting to repeat that in Saskatchewan and see what the reaction would be (we tend to vote socialist (NDP) provincially but conservative federally, At the moment the Sask Party (conservative) is in power provincially but I doubt they will win the next election.)

Saskatchewan has a long history of being extremely socialist and is currently doing very well economically while the rest of the country is struggling.

[GILD]

The Hand hath verily switched puppets.
Congratulations.
You must be very proud.

Don't forget that Bush isn't quite done yet. I foresee some bad things happening between now and Obama taking office.

Oh yeah, expect a pardon-party unlike anything you've seen between now and then.

[Jerrick]

Even I dont have to, ill contiue to work just as hard as I do to get all the things I need. =p

gonna be a fun 4 years.

[fluxusmaximus]

On a slightly irrelevent note but is STILL ON TOPIC, chill.

http://superobamaworld.com/

[Zzagg]

+1 for group hug :D

It's been a long time since you, american people, gave me faith in humankind. Of course Obama won't be able to solve all the problems (Yes, Catinabag and Skrobo, there were issues during Bush administration if you didn't notice) but he can't be worse than dubbya or a conservative so called hero (I still don't understand how people can speak of "war heroes". How can these 2 words be related in any way is a mystery to me).

Thank you american people, you made my day and, considering your country's "leadership", my children early years.

[munirocks]

I hope he will lead the US (and the rest of the world) into more peaceful times.

If he hadn't won these elections, I think there would have been massive riots everywhere in the states, and at least most black people would have been very upset.

Hopefully Obama will be well protected from his enemies.

[pdc]

Oh yeah, expect a pardon-party unlike anything you've seen between now and then.

It couldn't be bigger than the Clinton pardon party.

[GILD]

I stand to be corrected but I fully expect it to make the Clinton Pardon Party look like the writing of a fake sick-note in comparison.


Interesting times.

[rem48]

I was not for OBAMA at all but I am for supporting the commander and chief. The election did not have the outcome "I" wanted but the people of the United States have spoken so we need to support our leader. This really is a defining moment in history. We have had record turn outs for voting and democracy has had its way. I do hope, but mostly pray, that when president Obama takes office he will lead with wisdom AND STRENGTH. I know for the majority of people this is a good day and maybe this will transfer in to the economy and it will start an upward swing.

[JJuggle]

I do hope, but mostly pray, that when president Obama takes office he will lead with wisdom AND STRENGTH.
Amen to that. (Though truly I hope he leads with WISDOM and strength.)

Out of curiosity as a North Carolinian do you think Dole's attacks on Hagan's religiousness are what did her in or would she have lost anyway?

[petad]

Though, Don't forget that Bush isn't quite done yet.
2 months 17 days 23 hours 27 minutes 11 seconds! (http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/blbushclock.htm)

I have one of these on my backpack.

[Zzagg]

Amen to that. (Though truly I hope he leads with WISDOM and strength.)You almost stole the words out of my mouth. Wisdom is sufficient to me because it includes strenght for the situations that require it. No need to emphasize strength, it's just a way to slightly put Obama's future decisions on a path I wouldn't want him to follow (I mean, if I had been part of his election, of course)

[JJuggle]

You almost stole the words out of my mouth. Wisdom is sufficient to me because it includes strenght for the situations that require it. No need to emphasize strength, it's just a way to slightly put Obama's future decisions on a path I wouldn't want him to follow (I mean, if I had been part of his election, of course)
OT: J'espère que nous puissions rencontrer un de ces jours. :)

[steveyo]

Obama didn't win by dividing people over minor issues, but by uniting and energizing them with a positive, optimistic message. That was a welcome change.

He is a man who solicits and considers opinions from people who disagree with him. That will be a welcome change.

He is not from the bottom of his college class, but from the top, speaking in paragraphs instead of sound bites. That will be a welcome change.

He has not been rich his whole life, but worked to get where he is, and he eschewed high-paying law jobs in favor of grass-roots community service. That is a most welcome (and huge) difference between him and our current administration.

In the next months and years we'll see how well he deals with the staggering problems facing the US, but for today...

My heart sings with joy.

[Goats_On_Unicycles]

Haha, I think skrobo thinks people have aboritions casually.

[vollkornsocke]

Congrats for your new President, Americans!!!!!

Like Zzagg said, you made my day!!!! Jeah, jeah jippiih jeah!!!!:D

There still is hope!!!!

[Zzagg]

Haha, I think skrobo thinks people have aboritions casually.Don't you?;):D
More seriously, I live in a country where abortion is legal and least we can say is that we aren't running out of babies: France is the European country with the highest fecondity rate. So sad to see how people can be blind on such important issues...:(
oh and we don't eat phoetuses either:D

[JJuggle]

France is the European country with the highest fecondity rate.
For better or worse, that probably surprises very few Americans. (It's at least something we know about Europe and France.)

[Axi]

i hope everyone likes being a democratic socialist republic and being poor. history has shown that capitalism is the better way of doing things. it gives people a reason to work hard. socialism takes away all drive for people to become the best they can because it doesn't matter if they work hard or not, you get the same amount of income. STUPID! history has shown socialism to be nice in concept but bad in practice.

Obama isnt that red. Here in EU where taxes are sky high, medical care and education is free people are pretty happy. For example Sweden is one of the most "socialist" nation in EU and is has always been one of the top countries in HDI.

[JJuggle]

Obama isnt that red. Here in EU where taxes are sky high, medical care and education is free people are pretty happy. For example Sweden is one of the most "socialist" nation in EU and is has always been one of the top countries in HDI.
Americans don't want to be happy. Remember our puritan roots. We want to work hard, succeed, grouse about - but secretly be damn proud about - how hard we have to work, and then still be unhappy.

Anyway, if Americans were happy we'd let up our guard and then the world would fall apart.

Col. Jessup said it best in "A Few Good Men":
Son, we live in a world that has walls and those walls need to be guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You?..I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom...You have the luxury of not knowing what I know..You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use then as the backbone of a life trying to defend something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you," and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest that you pick up a weapon and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to."

[Axi]

Americans don't want to be happy.

Ok...:confused:

[evil-nick]

I still don't understand how people can speak of "war heroes". How can these 2 words be related in any way is a mystery to me

Ask your grandparents ;)

[Zzagg]

touché!;)

[unstable]

Ask your grandparents ;)

Yeah, or go visit Normandy. It's not far from you.

[Zzagg]

Yeah, or go visit Normandy. It's not far from you.
I did! I just meant that "war heroes" are "just" soldiers who won... How come I never heard about WWII German war heroes?
To me a hero is a fireman that saves a life, a doctor who cures people or a young boy who gets a cat down a tree... not someones whose job is to take lives, even if it's for a "worthy cause"
Sorry for the threadjack, I should have seen it comming though:o

[idiorythmic]

JJuggle, I can't tell if you're sincere or adding a dose of sarcasm to this thread, but that Col. Jessup quote was so ugly and feral that I had to counter it with something from M. Gandhi

"I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent."




Col. Jessup said it best in "A Few Good Men":
Son, we live in a world that has walls and those walls need to be guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You?..I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom...You have the luxury of not knowing what I know..You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use then as the backbone of a life trying to defend something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you," and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest that you pick up a weapon and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to."

[harper]

JJuggle, I can't tell if you're sincere or adding a dose of sarcasm to this thread,

"Why care do you?" - Raphael Lasar

[Gilby]

YouTube - This is how liberty dies

I was not for OBAMA at all but I am for supporting the commander and chief. The election did not have the outcome "I" wanted but the people of the United States have spoken so we need to support our leader. This really is a defining moment in history. We have had record turn outs for voting and democracy has had its way. I do hope, but mostly pray, that when president Obama takes office he will lead with wisdom AND STRENGTH. I know for the majority of people this is a good day and maybe this will transfer in to the economy and it will start an upward swing.

That's the mentality they are looking for.

Democracies historically have gotten away with more than tyrants do, simply because they can claim to have the mandate of the people and the people believe it.

[Ducttape]

do People still not understand that The president isn't really the one who makes the decisions? the house and senate are the real people in charge the President is just there to sign and veto bills really and even his vetoes can be overturned. Socialism had little to do with our falling dollar and would not have fixed it and kept it's value up, the fact that we got stupid and printed more money is what caused it to drop. To me it really wouldn't have mattered who won, I'm still sad and still would have been sad because I rarely heard a good reason based around the issues as to why people weren't voting for McCain or were voting for Obama. I even heard someone say they were voting by the flip of a coin because it seemed fairest! That's what scares me most right now not who's in office and who's not.

[dudewithasock]

Gilby, while I understand and agree with that sentiment, it's just one of those 'what can you do?' moments. I wouldn't call it a defeat to support the winner of the election, even if he wasn't who I voted for (though who I voted for had no reasonable chance of winning). Maybe I'm just too naive to understand, but I'm reminded of Lincoln's ever-present goal during the wedge between N and S - to preserve the union. I don't really approve of the electorate's decision, but it only does harm to argue against one another about it.

[siafirede]

Virginia actually voted for the democratic presidential candidate this time around.

All I can say is...You are welcome.

http://lolatmccain.com

http://lolatmccain.com/images/mccain-nope.jpg

[SHAY_CAM]

do People still not understand that The president isn't really the one who makes the decisions? the house and senate are the real people in charge the President is just there to sign and veto bills really and even his vetoes can be overturned. Socialism had little to do with our falling dollar and would not have fixed it and kept it's value up, the fact that we got stupid and printed more money is what caused it to drop. To me it really wouldn't have mattered who won, I'm still sad and still would have been sad because I rarely heard a good reason based around the issues as to why people weren't voting for McCain or were voting for Obama. I even heard someone say they were voting by the flip of a coin because it seemed fairest! That's what scares me most right now not who's in office and who's not.

They are purposly printing money so we get high in "dept."
The more dept, the more money they get from us.
The ratio at which inflation rises and minimum wage rises isnt 1:1, inflation is increasing at a higher rate, makeing the poor people poorer, and the rich, richer.

[Gilby]

... it's just one of those 'what can you do?' moments... I don't really approve of the electorate's decision, but it only does harm to argue against one another about it.

You don't just give in to it. You educate others. You prepare for the future. You try to bring this country back to its founding principles. Try to change it back to a Republic, where individuals have inalienable rights, and throw out the idea that this is a democracy (mob rule). The politicians and the media and other corporate interests would like us to believe this is a democracy. It's not. They have control of the information they feed us in mass and they have a lot of sway. It's psychological warfare between corporatism and us. It's a well oiled machine, so it's going to be hard to defeat, but that doesn't mean you just give up.

[SHAY_CAM]

You don't just give in to it. You educate others. You prepare for the future. You try to bring this country back to its founding principles. Try to change it back to a Republic, where individuals have inalienable rights, and throw out the idea that this is a democracy (mob rule). The politicians and the media and other corporate interests would like us to believe this is a democracy. It's not. They have control of the information they feed us in mass and they have a lot of sway. It's psychological warfare between corporatism and us. It's a well oiled machine, so it's going to be hard to defeat, but that doesn't mean you just give up.

That was beautiful.
Seriously thats Sigable.
I couldnt agree with you more.
Thats why i have been trying to hard in these forums to change some peoples minds about things, but they revolt on me and critic everything i say, like i insulted them or something, just for giving a different view.

[dudewithasock]

Shay, it's because you don't express your views in an orderly, intellectual manner, nor provide any basis on which to support your claims.

But we still love you. <3

[rem48]

Amen to that. (Though truly I hope he leads with WISDOM and strength.)

Out of curiosity as a North Carolinian do you think Dole's attacks on Hagan's religiousness are what did her in or would she have lost anyway?

I don't think she even put up a fight. Her whole campaign seemed lukewarm to me. ... I also agree with the WISDOM being emphasized.

[idiorythmic]

"Why care do you?" - Raphael Lasar

I have no idea.

[JJuggle]

I have no idea.
"Raphael was being sarcastic." - Greg Harper

[Mikefule]

I feared America would bottle it at the last moment and go for the white avuncular war hero.

Black people only gained the vote during my lifetime. That a black man with the middle name "Hussain" can now be voted in with more than 50% of the votes cast gives me a new faith in the American people's essential decency.

I'm sure he'll be far from perfect, like all the rest, but of the two that the system generated for selection, he's far and away the better choice.

Thank you to the 52% of the 65% who bothered to vote.

[idiorythmic]

"Raphael was being sarcastic." - Greg Harper

Thanks for the clarification.

Now I need to jack the thread a bit: I see that if I had examined the sig lines I could have learned that JJuggle is Raphael and that Raphael is JJuggle, but since so many people put so much stuff in their sig lines I tend to ignore them. Sorry, Raphael.

okay, now back to the regular thread traffic...

[forrestunifreak]

I think I'll refrain from ever calling our new president by his proper name.

Should be fun. :)

[JJuggle]

Thanks for the clarification.
De nada.

JJuggle is Raphael
Always true.

and that Raphael is JJuggle
Sometimes true.

[JJuggle]

I think I'll refrain from ever calling our new president by his proper name.
Since it can no longer be (ab)used as a tool for fear mongering, why bother?

[maestro8]

history has shown that capitalism is the better way of doing things.
I bet you think that the US Gov't has been supporting capitalism, too.

The stupid is strong with this one.

and w/ all the abortions, lets just kill off our population while we are at it.
Good suggestion. You go first.

[peleschramm]

I think I'll refrain from ever calling our new president by his proper name.

Should be fun. :)

What will you call him?

[johnfoss]

Who thinks he has a clue ?52%. And the rest of the world, apparently.
Barrack has the ALOHA spirit.I think you're right. And that's from a guy who learned the aloha spirit from you. In fact, living in Hawaii may have played a part in Obama being the guy he is; an American, not so much a black American. That's the impression I got in Hawaii anyway, less of an interest in peoples' color.
i hope everyone likes being a democratic socialist republic and being poor.You already live in a democratic socialist republic. Are you poor? If so, is it somebody else's fault? I think you confuse Socialist with Communist.
lets just kill off our population while we are at it.
after all, obama is for killing the babies onthe table. The election's over. It's a little late to start making campaign ads. So giving you the benefit of the doubt, that you're making this up, link, please?
he got elected for the same reason kennedy was.Kennedy ran for president after 8 years of George W. Bush?
it's all a high school popularity contest. In that case, we *definitely* picked the right guy!
It's been a long time since you, american people, gave me faith in humankind.Thank you. I'm glad we finally got it right. I think this election, among other things, represented a lot of pent-up OOPS from four years ago.
It couldn't be bigger than the Clinton pardon party.Why not? Bigger blunders, bigger defecit, etc. My money's on Bush setting a record here.
This really is a defining moment in history.And for all you nay-sayers out there, please notice that today seems to be a celebration around the world. The world is not celebrating because they want to take advantage of us. They are celebrating because they want to believe in us again. Here at home, I'm glad the election was won by a clear margin, so there is no doubt in peoples' minds that this is what the people chose. There is no doubt, so now we must get on with it.

Now the role of candidate has to change to the role of leader. We know Barak was a good candidate, but now he has to prove he can help us work together for a better tomorrow. I know Rush and O-Reilly will continue to bitch regardless of what happens, but I hope the rest of us can give him the benefit of the doubt and see what we can do as a united nation.

[Brian O.]

+1
and w/ all the abortions, lets just kill off our population while we are at it.
after all, obama is for killing the babies onthe table.

Well, McCain and Palin both eat babies. You've heard the story of how they met right?

Also, I can understand calling John McCain a war hero had he actually accomplished something, but failing your mission and being shot down doesn't make you a hero in my book, it makes you a failure, just like graduating at almost the absolute bottom of your class.

[wickedbob]

Well, McCain and Palin both eat babies. You've heard the story of how they met right?

Also, I can understand calling John McCain a war hero had he actually accomplished something, but failing your mission and being shot down doesn't make you a hero in my book, it makes you a failure, just like graduating at almost the absolute bottom of your class.



From what I heard, they offered to let him go once they found out who he was (An officers kid or something), but refused since the first to be imprisoned is the first to be let go.

If you stick to your code of honor even though it may end in your torture for year after year and quite possibly death, your a war hero to me.

I have no idea of that is true, that is what I heard, if that is true though, I see him as a war hero.


Also comparing a man who risked his life and almost lost it to somebody to lazy to work is quite a far stretch.


From what I heard so far I'm no Obama fan, we'll see though, I hope he does a good job.

[SHAY_CAM]

Shay, it's because you don't express your views in an orderly, intellectual manner, nor provide any basis on which to support your claims.

But we still love you. <3

What ever makes you sleep at night buddy.

[Mikefule]

Also, I can understand calling John McCain a war hero had he actually accomplished something, but failing your mission and being shot down doesn't make you a hero in my book, it makes you a failure

Cheap shot. Disgustingly cheap shot.

I am no admirer either of the Republicans or of John McCain as a presidential candidate, and I am certainly not in favour of war, but...

Whether we personally agree with the foreign policy or not, the armed forces of a democracy act to serve and protect the democracy. We wouldn't have the freedom to discuss this in a public form without the sacrifices of our armed services.

And every man who puts on his uniform and puts himself in a position where he may be shot down is brave. He doesn't just risk sudden death, but he risks injury, paralysis, amputation, disfiguring burns, capture, rape, torture, starvation, imprisonment, humiliation and the breakdown of his family life back home while all that is going on. Then if he survives all that, possibly a lifetime of mental illness, flashbacks and night terrors. Yet still he goes out on his mission.

My great uncle Les was shot down in World War II. He was in a Halifax bomber, doing his bit to protect his country and family.

I have read his correspondence, and also the statement of the one member of the crew who survived the crash, was captured, and spent a long time in a Nazi POW camp. Of course, I never knew him, but I remember his sister (my grandmother) still mourning him 30 years or more later.

Just because the mission ends in failure, doesn't stop the soldier, sailor or airman being brave and deserving of our respect.

And for those who haven't spotted it, your timing is particularly bad. It is 11th November in only a few days. I suppose every man who died at the Somme was a failure because he got shot and died horribly?

It is a long time since I have been so disgusted by something I have read in this forum.

[critter]

[QUOTE=johnfoss;1125413
And for all you nay-sayers out there, please notice that today seems to be a celebration around the world. The world is not celebrating because they want to take advantage of us. They are celebrating because they want to believe in us again.[/QUOTE]

That was the best reason to vote for him!!!
I hope his ''rock star status'' keeps growing.

[wickedbob]

What I was getting at, I'm not as good with words as mikefule though. Well said.

[XCcrev]

+1 for group hug :D

It's been a long time since you, american people, gave me faith in humankind. Of course Obama won't be able to solve all the problems (Yes, Catinabag and Skrobo, there were issues during Bush administration if you didn't notice) but he can't be worse than dubbya or a conservative so called hero (I still don't understand how people can speak of "war heroes". How can these 2 words be related in any way is a mystery to me).

Thank you american people, you made my day and, considering your country's "leadership", my children early years.

If it was not for war heroes we would all be occupied by Nazi Germany

[forrestunifreak]

What will you call him?

Obamo
Obummer
B.O.
The Obama Llama
SnobAma

The list goes on and on.

[Goats_On_Unicycles]

Haha, sore loser.

[johnfoss]

B.O.I like that one!

failing your mission and being shot down doesn't make you a hero in my book, it makes you a failure, just like graduating at almost the absolute bottom of your class.You've got a lot to learn about what it means to be in the military, and in a war. Graduating at the bottom of your class does not a hero make, nor does it prevent one. Getting in the plane to go and face huge amounts of missiles and anti-aircraft guns makes one. Refusing to submit to your captors makes one. Giving up the chance to go home makes one.

A failed mission is not a failed soldier either. How does getting hit by a bullet (infantry) or a missle (airplane) make you less of a soldier? Do you have to dodge bullets? Be lucky? Sheesh.

[munirocks]

Go, Baroque Osama, so glad about his 52% erection. Finally someone will stop those damn tourists from hat hacking the Hu Hess hof Hay. Hand the world will be friends with them honce hagain.

Strange, something seems to be wrong with my keyboard, anyways, you get the idea.

[BluntRM]

Strangely, the most immediate and noticeable effect of Senator Obama's victory is the lack of mail in my inbox, mailbox, and front porch.

[munirocks]

The thing is that war sucks. There's really nothing good about it. Even if you're allowed to bring a unicycle to the mission. It's just all about menacing and killing all sorts of folks, just because someone else tells you to do so. A soldier, who has chosen to serve as such, is deliberately putting himself into a position, in which he is forced to obey the deadly orders of his leader. Still it can be considered brave, but I think it is a very poor choice to become a soldier. It just means participating in organized killing.

Ahh, thank god, the keyboard seems to work again.

[maestro8]

Strangely, the most immediate and noticeable effect of Senator Obama's victory is the lack of mail in my inbox, mailbox, and front porch.

...and the late night phone calls from the "888" area code. They made me wish my phone had a button to shock the person calling me.

[Brian O.]

I apologize, I was more or less just trying to get a reaction out of Skrobo. I do respect people who risk their lives to fight for a just cause. Whatever that is anyhow.

[GILD]

I think I'll refrain from ever calling our new president by his proper name.

Should be fun.
To what end?

Cheap shot. Disgustingly cheap shot.

It is a long time since I have been so disgusted by something I have read in this forum.
Thank you for your well-reasoned response.

"Only the dead have seen the end of war."

[BillyTheMountain]

A song called "There's no one as Irish as Barack O'Bama" is getting hits on You Tube on both sides of the Atlantic, reports the Limerick Leader newspaper.

Last year it was revealed Obama has roots in the small town of Moneygall in Offaly research by the genealogy Web site ancestry.co.uk showed. Apparently his great great great grandfather was born in Ireland.

The newspaper reported that Canon Stephen Neill, a Church of Ireland rector, examined church files dating to the 1700s and confirmed Obama's tenuous Irish heritage.

Ger Corrigan, together with his brothers Brian and Donnacha, make up the three-piece band that proves girls aren't the only ones who just want to have fun.

The trio has apparently received an invite from Michiganders for Obama to perform if the Illinois senator is elected president.

The lyrics follow:

O'Leary, O'Reilly, O'Hare and O'Hara There's no one as Irish as Barack O'Bama

You don't believe me I hear you say But Barack's as Irish As was JFK

His granddaddys daddy Came from Moneygall A small Irish village Well known to you all

Toor a loo, toor a loo, toor a loo, toor a lama There's no one as Irish As Barack O'Bama

He's as Irish as bacon And cabbage and stew He's Hawaiian he's Kenyan American too

If he succeeds And he has a chance I'm sure our Barack Will do Riverdance

Toor a loo, toor a loo, toor a loo, toor a lama There's no one as Irish As Barack O'Bama

[Into the blue]

This dropped onto our picture desk a few days ago.
Caption: Church records showing Barack Obama's ancestors, the Kearney's, from Moneygall, in Templeharry Church in the village of Cloughjordan in Co Offaly.

[Into the blue]

This too...

[steveyo]

A NY Times columnist Roger Cohen quoted, in his column this morning, an email he'd received:

"Rosa Parks sat in 1955. Martin Luther King walked in 1963. Barack Obama ran in 2008. That our children might fly."

I read it aloud to my wife, Rose, but I choked up before I could finish reading.

[GILD]

That is an incredible quote.

[Goats_On_Unicycles]

Wow... just plain wow.
That's just so beautiful.

[unstable]

How come I never heard about WWII German war heroes?


Well, there's Erwin Rommel for starters.

[UniBrier]

In 2004, Bush got 62,040,610 total in the popular vote, in the current election Obama received 62,704,840 vote total. Therefore, Obama is just over 1% more popular than Bush.

[Axi]

Erwin Rommel

Couldnt that be bacuse he tryed to kill Hitler?

[munirocks]

In 2004, Bush got 62,040,610 total in the popular vote, in the current election Obama received 62,704,840 vote total. Therefore, Obama is just over 1% more popular than Bush.

Yeah, that's pretty surprising. I would have expected a lot more Americans to be really upset by the Bush administration's actions in the last 8 years. 52% for Obama also means, that 48% of the voters were still in favor of the policies of the republicans, after all that has been going on. Meaning they believed in all the lies and bullshit Bush & Co have been telling them. Weird, isn't it?

[BluntRM]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ab5cPXB7ib8/SRHG4RxknQI/AAAAAAAACbo/ECsoCWkbhSY/s1600/yeswedid.jpg

[JJuggle]

In 2004, Bush got 62,040,610 total in the popular vote, in the current election Obama received 62,704,840 vote total. Therefore, Obama is just over 1% more popular than Bush.
According to CNN Obama got 64,092,390 which, according to my calculations, is 3.3% more popular. Your number for Bush appears to be correct.

But more importantly, what's you point?

[munirocks]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ab5cPXB7ib8/SRHG4RxknQI/AAAAAAAACbo/ECsoCWkbhSY/s1600/yeswedid.jpg:confused:

[BluntRM]

:confused:

Caricatures of American Presidents: As you can see, the last century has been biased against mutton chops and facial hair. Having just celebrated Octobeard with a transition to Movemeber, I thought it made an interesting point.

[SHAY_CAM]

Arent you guys excited for the new world? Its gonna be so fun, with the scavanging for food, and The building of rudimentary building and shelters.
Gonna be like one of those 80's movies with bandits, kinda like waterworld.
Its gonna be way cool.

[JJuggle]

Gonna be like one of those 80's movies with bandits, kinda like waterworld
Can I be Dennis Hopper?

[SHAY_CAM]

Can I be Dennis Hopper?

Anyone can be anyone, its gonna be great.

Here comes the monarchy!

[harper]

Can I be Dennis Hopper?

No you CAN'T be Dennis Hopper and you MAY NOT be Dennis Hopper. You have too much integrity.

[BluntRM]

In a post-apocalyptic future, we all run with scissors, hence eye-patches:

http://www.filmsfound.com/images/dennis-hopper.jpg
http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/images/n3/n15053.jpg
http://homepage2.nifty.com/discomixrecords/DEAD%20OR%20ALIVE%20-%20YOU%20SPIN%20-%20MURDER%20-%20uk.JPG

[SHAY_CAM]

In a post-apocalyptic future, we all run with scissors, hence eye-patches:

http://www.filmsfound.com/images/dennis-hopper.jpg
http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/images/n3/n15053.jpg
http://homepage2.nifty.com/discomixrecords/DEAD%20OR%20ALIVE%20-%20YOU%20SPIN%20-%20MURDER%20-%20uk.JPG

Haha! I will be ;
http://images.digitalmedianet.com/2006/Week_33/61rboolg/story/waterworld-1.jpg

kevin costner.

[peleschramm]

Yeah, that's pretty surprising. I would have expected a lot more Americans to be really upset by the Bush administration's actions in the last 8 years. 52% for Obama also means, that 48% of the voters were still in favor of the policies of the republicans, after all that has been going on. Meaning they believed in all the lies and bullshit Bush & Co have been telling them. Weird, isn't it?

Many Republicans would argue that although Republican ideas are correct, Bush was just a retard and other Republicans would do much better.


I of course believe that they would all do a pretty terrible job, maybe not as extreme as Bush, but I disagree with most of the Republican ideas.

[JJuggle]

No you CAN'T be Dennis Hopper and you MAY NOT be Dennis Hopper. You have too much integrity.
Yeah, yeah. But in a post-apocalyptic future I may have to ditch it. At least as long as my insulin lasts (which might be a little longer without it).

[SHAY_CAM]

We can freeze you.

[Goats_On_Unicycles]

If what you're predicting happens, I'll give you ten bucks...

[maestro8]

Haha! I will be kevin costner.

Um, you'd have a hard time pulling off Corky Thatcher. Don't get overzealous, here.

[mscalisi]

I'm very happy with the way this election turned out. I think Obama is the right guy at the right time.

That being said, I think McCain showed his strongest character during the concession speech, and it was a much more like-able tone than the rest of his campaign. Had he been stronger on the economy, not run negative ads, and not chosen Palin to be his running mate, he may have been elected.

In other words, republicans pretty much gave the election to Obama on a silver platter.

[Mikefule]

That being said, I think McCain showed his strongest character during the concession speech,

Hear hear! It was an excellent, dignified, gracious and statesmanlike speech. I disagree with his politics, and don't think he was a good candidate, but he is clearly a gentleman and (with a small "d") democrat.

[BillyTheMountain]

Hear hear! It was an excellent, dignified, gracious and statesmanlike speech. I disagree with his politics, and don't think he was a good candidate, but he is clearly a gentleman and (with a small "d") democrat.

I'm surprised to hear you say McCain is a democrat. He's voted with Bush 95% of the time, and most would not consider that McCain was supporting a democratic agenda.

[Gilby]

I'm surprised to hear you say McCain is a democrat. He's voted with Bush 95% of the time, and most would not consider that McCain was supporting a democratic agenda.

They are all democrats. (http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2003/cr012903.htm)

[BillyTheMountain]

They are all democrats. (http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2003/cr012903.htm)

Your cite said: "These strongly held views regarding the evils of democracy and the benefits of a Constitutional Republic were shared by all the Founders. For them, a democracy meant centralized power, controlled by majority opinion, which was up for grabs and therefore completely arbitrary."

But Bush also made unilateral decisions, and was given the power to do so, which invalidates the democracy rule.

[critter]

Gonna be like one of those 80's movies with bandits, kinda like waterworld.
Its gonna be way cool.

NO thats crazy dude! It will be more like mad max. Who wants to be the Gibster?
29455

[Michaelgoround]

NO thats crazy dude! It will be more like mad max. Who wants to be the Gibster?
29455
Cam I be Mel Gibson?

[SHAY_CAM]

If what you're predicting happens, I'll give you ten bucks...


And another 10$ toward my dream street uni.

[SHAY_CAM]

Yeah! and we will have to use pig crap to fuel our cars.

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_vpbmCoOUang/SM1tvPooyCI/AAAAAAAAIaY/6-ptu-KzgIU/IMG_2778.JPG

Thats me :D

[Michaelgoround]

Yeah! and we will have to use pig crap to fuel our cars.

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_vpbmCoOUang/SM1tvPooyCI/AAAAAAAAIaY/6-ptu-KzgIU/IMG_2778.JPG

Thats me :D
Why would I use pig crap when theirs perfectly good oil refinerys lying around?

[SHAY_CAM]

Why would I use pig crap when theirs perfectly good oil refinerys lying around?

Because in the movie thats what they used.

[Michaelgoround]

Their was also an oil refinery in it.

[rookie rider]

obama stinks. :mad::mad::mad::(:(:(

[SHAY_CAM]

obama stinks. :mad::mad::mad::(:(:(

Really, I thought he smelled good.:rolleyes:

[rookie rider]

lol :p

[johnfoss]

Why would I use pig crap when theirs perfectly good oil refinerys lying around?You guys have your Mad Max's mixed up. In the movie Mad Max, it's all about getting the big tanker of gasoline (after the refinery is blown up). In Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome, apparently all/most of the gas is gone, and the fuel of the day is methane. To quote the movie, "Methane comes from pig shit." That line was spoken by actor Frank Thring, who also appeared in Ben Hur (1959) as Pontius Pilate!

But I don't think all the vehicles in the movie were running on methane, especially not Tina Turner's jet-powered car. But maybe it was...

[SHAY_CAM]

You guys have your Mad Max's mixed up. In the movie Mad Max, it's all about getting the big tanker of gasoline (after the refinery is blown up). In Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome, apparently all/most of the gas is gone, and the fuel of the day is methane. To quote the movie, "Methane comes from pig shit." That line was spoken by actor Frank Thring, who also appeared in Ben Hur (1959) as Pontius Pilate!

But I don't think all the vehicles in the movie were running on methane, especially not Tina Turner's jet-powered car. But maybe it was...

You are very good at explaining things.
Anyways, that was a good movie.

[munirocks]

obama stinks. :mad::mad::mad::(:(:(

It seems like your muni might stink, or isn't it standing in cow shit in your avatar?

[Mikefule]

I'm surprised to hear you say McCain is a democrat. He's voted with Bush 95% of the time, and most would not consider that McCain was supporting a democratic agenda.

I'm sure you know what I meant.

He stood for election, he argued his case, he lost the vote, and he has vowed to accept the will of the majority and give his support to the winner. That's democracy.

I think he said, "Yesterday you were my opponent, but now you are my President" or some such formula.

The names of the two main parties in the USA are pretty silly: all Americans should support democracy (be democrats) and all should report the republic (be republicans).

I think they should be renamed to avoid such confusion. Maybe the "Reactionary right wing loonies" and the "Slightly less reactionary right wing loonies" or something like that.;)

[harper]

The names of the two main parties in the USA are pretty silly: all Americans should support democracy (be democrats) and all should report the republic (be republicans).

These two are, in general, mutually exclusive.


Maybe the "Reactionary right wing loonies" and the "Slightly less reactionary right wing loonies" or something like that.

I think "left-looking federalists" and "right-looking federalists" would be better. Another variation might be "left-wing control freaks" and "right-wing control freaks" depending on what your favorite control flavor is.

[Goats_On_Unicycles]

obama stinks. :mad::mad::mad::(:(:(

now there's a very intelligent and well reasoned post!

[siafirede]

I've been watching Fox News lately because it is funny watching Hannity and Oreily throw hissy fits about Obama winning. There was a segment I saw where one or the other was talking about how it was a media crime for a black reporter to be emotional over Obama's win when reflecting on his (the reporter's) parents and grandparents struggles from years back. According to some people on Fox News it is now the end of America as we know it, they spin it as a bad thing, where as the new majority sees it as a step forward.

Turn on Fox News for some LOLs.

[BluntRM]

I've been watching Fox News lately because it is funny watching Hannity and Oreily throw hissy fits about Obama winning. There was a segment I saw where one or the other was talking about how it was a media crime for a black reporter to be emotional over Obama's win when reflecting on his (the reporter's) parents and grandparents struggles from years back. According to some people on Fox News it is now the end of America as we know it, they spin it as a bad thing, where as the new majority sees it as a step forward.

Turn on Fox News for some LOLs.

YouTube - Keith Olbermann: Worst Persons &quot;They Don't Matter Any More!&quot;

[johnfoss]

...on Fox News it is now the end of America as we know it, they spin it as a bad thing, where as the new majority sees it as a step forward.Glad to see Fox is staying "fair and balanced". :rolleyes:

BTW, earlier I got my Mad Max movies mixed up too. Mad Max (1979) was the first one, and is hard to find in the US without the dialogue overdubbed to cover up those Aussie accents that apparently Americans couldn't handle in the early 80s. Funnily enough, the guy who did Mel Gibson's dubbed voice was Mel Gibson. :)

The movie with the gasoline tanker was Mad Max 2 (1981), but was titled The Road Warrior for American release. Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome came out in 1985. And, according to Wikipedia, there are plans for a Mad Max 4: Fury Road, which remains in pre-production. I guess they're going to wait until Mel is as old as Harrison Ford was for the last (or fourth) Indiana Jones movie...