Al Qaeda Endorses John McCain for US President!

[BillyTheMountain]

Password protected Al Qaeda websites which disseminate the groups propaganda carry this message. 4 more years of a president blind to nuance in the Muslim worldwouild be a boon for Al Qaeda recruiting, and a tragedy for Americans.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/26/opinion/26kristof.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

John McCain isn’t boasting about a new endorsement, one of the very, very few he has received from overseas. It came a few days ago:

“Al Qaeda will have to support McCain in the coming election,” read a commentary on a password-protected Islamist Web site that is closely linked to Al Qaeda and often disseminates the group’s propaganda.

The endorsement left the McCain campaign sputtering, and noting helplessly that Hamas appears to prefer Barack Obama. Al Qaeda’s apparent enthusiasm for Mr. McCain is manifestly not reciprocated.

“The transcendent challenge of our time [is] the threat of radical Islamic terrorism,” Senator McCain said in a major foreign policy speech this year, adding, “Any president who does not regard this threat as transcending all others does not deserve to sit in the White House.”

That’s a widespread conservative belief. Mitt Romney compared the threat of militant Islam to that from Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union. Some conservative groups even marked “Islamofascism Awareness Week” earlier this month.

Yet the endorsement of Mr. McCain by a Qaeda-affiliated Web site isn’t a surprise to security specialists. Richard Clarke, the former White House counterterrorism director, and Joseph Nye, the former chairman of the National Intelligence Council, have both suggested that Al Qaeda prefers Mr. McCain and might even try to use terror attacks in the coming days to tip the election to him.

“From their perspective, a continuation of Bush policies is best for recruiting,” said Professor Nye, adding that Mr. McCain is far more likely to continue those policies.

An American president who keeps troops in Iraq indefinitely, fulminates about Islamic terrorism, inclines toward military solutions and antagonizes other nations is an excellent recruiting tool. In contrast, an African-American president with a Muslim grandfather and a penchant for building bridges rather than blowing them up would give Al Qaeda recruiters fits.

During the cold war, the American ideological fear of communism led us to mistake every muddle-headed leftist for a Soviet pawn. Our myopia helped lead to catastrophe in Vietnam.

In the same way today, an exaggerated fear of “Islamofascism” elides a complex reality and leads us to overreact and damage our own interests. Perhaps the best example is one of the least-known failures in Bush administration foreign policy: Somalia. Read on using the link...

[SHAY_CAM]

The "Al Qaeda" is fake.

[johnfoss]

Sounds like a no-brainer to me, on the part of Al Qaeda. The other guy wants to end the war, and what fun would that be? With no war, Al Qaeda would have to pay for their own publicity again. :)

Besides, as McCain keeps reminding us, he's already been "tested." He sat in a jet on an aircraft carrier in 1962, ready to go in the Cuban Missle Crisis. Not sure what the exact test was there, as he would either be told to carry out his mission or stand down. But he was well-tested in Vietnam, no question about that. Neither candidate has any track record of how they would perform as the Commander In Chief though. I kind of like how the younger candidate says he wants to make a point of actually getting Osama Bin Laden. To me, that's a little piece of unfinished business that's gnawing at the American conscience while we continue to shovel money into Iraq.

[petad]

John McCain won't end the war which is bankrupting this country. The Soviet-Afghan War helped bankrupt and crash the USSR after that "World Superpower vs. Muslims" war. Same thing is happening here, basically.

[unstable]

IIRC, Al Qaeda endorsed Kerry in the 2004 election. And we know how that turned out. Maybe they're thinking reverse psychology this time.

[SHAY_CAM]

All your answers lie here:

Its only 2 hours long, just watch it.


Zeitgeist: Addendum

[Gilby]

The other guy wants to end the war, It's good to hear you got past the two-party system. Unfortunately it looks like war candidate one and war candidate two are in the lead and one of them will take this election.

[john_childs]

Sounds like a no-brainer to me, on the part of Al Qaeda. The other guy wants to end the war, and what fun would that be? With no war, Al Qaeda would have to pay for their own publicity again. :)

Obama wants to end the war in Iraq. He wants to continue and expand the war in Afghanistan. There is still going to be a war going on with troops fighting. Al Qaeda will still have a fight and a cause to use to drum up support for their cause and drum up members and fighters.

[catinabag1]

it's reverse psychology. they want to trick us into electing obama so we pull out of the middle east prematurely so al qaeda can wreak havok more easily once again.

[SHAY_CAM]

The war is a scam thought by the governement.
The 9/11 attacks were the start of a giant scam to proceed "terrorism"
As long as people think there is an al queda, they are going to think there is terrorism, and terrorism is why people think they have to give "donations" to the government.

As long at the war is going on, the government gets money, and thats the way they want it.

[catinabag1]

The war is a scam thought by the governement.
The 9/11 attacks were the start of a giant scam to proceed "terrorism"
As long as people think there is an al queda, they are going to think there is terrorism, and terrorism is why people think they have to give "donations" to the government.

As long at the war is going on, the government gets money, and thats the way they want it.

they want a bigger deficit?

[dudewithasock]

SHAY_CAM, I swear, you must be Shaun Johanneson's younger clone or something.

[SHAY_CAM]

No-body wants to beleive me, but im obviously informed, im not just pulling this information out of my freaking ass. Watch zeitgeist.

[wickedbob]

All I have to say is wow. Just wow.

[wickedbob]

No-body wants to beleive me, but im obviously informed, im not just pulling this information out of my freaking ass. Watch zeitgeist.



You got me there. Who would lie in a movie. Pfft, I have YouTube thus I'm informed and knowledgeable about world politics.

[SHAY_CAM]

Your also stupid as hell in every thread you post.

[wickedbob]

I agree.

[dudewithasock]

I agree.

/highfive

[Goats_On_Unicycles]

Shay... no need to start lashing out.
I've checked out all sides of the arguments, and for me I've come to the conclusion that 9/11 wasn't an inside job but it might have been preventable and there was and still probably is, a lot of cover-up about it.

[SHAY_CAM]

Basicly, and you might know this already. They knew about 9/11 3 days before it happened, and that is a true, stated, fact. Thank you for look at my side at least, somewhat.

[harper]

I think there is evidence equally compelling to that provided by SHAY_CAM that Al Qaeda supports Nike shoes and taco pizza.

[wickedbob]

I think there is evidence equally compelling to that provided by SHAY_CAM that Al Qaeda supports Nike shoes and taco pizza.

Al Quesadilla?

[Axi]

Wow, Al Qaeda reeaaally hates McCain.

[dudewithasock]

Wow, Al Qaeda reeaaally hates McCain.

Shameless lol.

[habbywall]

Did he just say that terrorism is a scam thought up by the american gov't?

[BillyTheMountain]

Since Obama appeals to Americans greatest hopes and dreams, and McCain appeals to America's worst fears and nightmares, Bush just bombed Al Qaeda in Syria in order to help McCain's faltering campaign.

[Gilby]

Since Obama appeals to Americans greatest hopes and dreams, and McCain appeals to America's worst fears and nightmares, Bush just bombed Al Qaeda in Syria in order to help McCain's faltering campaign. Does that mean the war on terror is over?

[SHAY_CAM]

Did he just say that terrorism is a scam thought up by the american gov't?

No, the al queda was thought up to promote terrorism so that people would be in fear.

[BillyTheMountain]

Does that mean the war on terror is over?

Terror will end when we have no enemies.

Remember, the USA's founding fathers were terrorists.

[Jesus]

Billy, I didn't want to say anything, but this has gone too far.


You need to stop making these threads.

Or else.

(EDIT: THis doesn't mean I don't agree with you.)

[Mary Magdalene]

Billy, I didn't want to say anything, but this has gone too far.


You need to stop making these threads.

Or else.

(EDIT: THis doesn't mean I don't agree with you.)
Jesus, my love You are sending Billy such mixed messages. How can he follow You if he doesn't know what he's following? And You know what a confused soul he is.

Come to bed.

[unstable]

Remember, the USA's founding fathers were terrorists.

Insurgents maybe, but not terrorists. They did not intentionally murder noncombatants, women and children, to create fear. That's the definition of "terrorist".

[critter]

it's reverse psychology.
yes

they want to trick us into electing obama so we pull out of the middle east prematurely so al qaeda can wreak havok more easily once again.
No, Obama is double agent. Al Qaeda knows that Obama will be commander and chief. He will have the power to kill more americans than G. Bush.


:D bad joke

[tomblackwood]

The war is a scam thought by the governement. The 9/11 attacks were the start of a giant scam to proceed "terrorism" As long as people think there is an al queda, they are going to think there is terrorism, and terrorism is why people think they have to give "donations" to the government. As long at the war is going on, the government gets money, and thats the way they want it.
Well that's a very well thought out and articulated position, son. Thanks for sharing that. Now that I'm up to speed on what the deal really is, I know how I'll be voting on election day. You turned the tide, man.

[napalm]

Billythemountain- yeah, the US sure dealt a fatal blow to Al-qaeda in Syria by killing a bunch of civillians in a construction site. It is easy to accuse dead people (even children http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7692153.stm) of being members of a loosely associated trans national organisation when they can't defend themselves...hell i guess with guantanamo it is also easy to do it to people when they are still alive as well.

I am travelling to syria at the end of november for nearly three months so if the US starts shit with them, maybe to provoke some sort of response that can later be used for action against the country, i will be seriously pissed. It is an interesting notion that this could be somehow associated with trying to strengthen the credentials of McCain, but i think there would be easier ways to do this without threatening yet another powerfull country in the middle east.

I think the Syrian government has shown a great deal of restraint in this whole situation. Imagine the shitstorm if a bunch of Syrian special forces entered israel and killed some civillians and then decided not to give a reason for the action. Double standards give me the shits... sorry guys rant over-
mark

[monkeyman]

No-body wants to beleive me, but im obviously informed, im not just pulling this information out of my freaking ass. Watch zeitgeist.
rofl.

No, the al queda was thought up to promote terrorism so that people would be in fear.

So was the Iraq.

YouTube - Miss Teen USA 2007 - South Carolina answers a question

[SHAY_CAM]

rofl.

And you think short little abreiviated word intimidate me?

rofllmaololbrbalooneone!oineone!onr noob/.

Oh cool im cool now right?

[habbywall]

And you think short little abreiviated word intimidate me?

rofllmaololbrbalooneone!oineone!onr noob/.

Oh cool im cool now right?

Nope, you're still an uniformed idiot.

[SHAY_CAM]

Or your just a conformist, who beleives everything he hears on the news to be absolutely true in every way.

[maestro8]

Or I'm just a conformist, who beleives everything I watch on YouTube to be absolutely true in every way.

FTFY.

How have you verified the integrity of your information sources? Have you done any fact checking yourself?

Don't go calling other people sheep until you've shed your own wool coat, son.

[Gilby]

Nope, you're still an uniformed idiot.

What kind of uniform is he wearing?

Insurgents maybe, but not terrorists. They did not intentionally murder noncombatants, women and children, to create fear. That's the definition of "terrorist".
The definition of a terrorist is anyone who imposes fear on others. To our government, a terrorist is anyone who threatens their status quo. To me, a terrorist is anyone who threatens my rights. I'm more fearful of our own government than I am of getting in the line of an attack on the US.
How have you verified the integrity of your information sources? Have you done any fact checking yourself?

Don't go calling other people sheep until you've shed your own wool coat, son.

It's a fact that in a crisis, governments use that crisis to expand and get their agendas passed, all in the name of protecting it's victims.

Conspiracy theorists try to extrapolate that to mean that government intentionally created the crisis. Whether or not they did is irrelevant. It's not going to get mainstream acceptance. It's better to point at the effects of the reaction and get acceptance of solutions that would not further harm us.

[SHAY_CAM]

What kind of uniform is he wearing?


The definition of a terrorist is anyone who imposes fear on others. To our government, a terrorist is anyone who threatens their status quo. To me, a terrorist is anyone who threatens my rights. I'm more fearful of our own government than I am of getting in the line of an attack on the US.


It's a fact that in a crisis, governments use that crisis to expand and get their agendas passed, all in the name of protecting it's victims.

Conspiracy theorists try to extrapolate that to mean that government intentionally created the crisis. Whether or not they did is irrelevant. It's not going to get mainstream acceptance. It's better to point at the effects of the reaction and get acceptance of solutions that would not further harm us.

Thank you.

[wickedbob]

Thank you.


http://www.blamonet.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_Retard_Win.jpg

[monkeyman]

And you think short little abreiviated word intimidate me?

rofllmaololbrbalooneone!oineone!onr noob/.

Oh cool im cool now right?

Well, I could argue with you, but that tends to require things like a basic level of intellect and belief in facts. I don't have enough for the both of us.

[tim williamson]

Are we supposed to cast our vote based on what others think we should do? That is a very odd way to go about things.

[johnfoss]

Are we supposed to cast our vote based on what others think we should do?We are supposed to cast our votes based on what we think others *will* do.

At least the ones we're voting for...

[BillyTheMountain]

Password protected Al Qaeda websites which disseminate the groups propaganda carry this message. 4 more years of a president blind to nuance in the Muslim worldwouild be a boon for Al Qaeda recruiting, and a tragedy for Americans.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/26/opinion/26kristof.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

John McCain isn’t boasting about a new endorsement, one of the very, very few he has received from overseas. It came a few days ago:

“Al Qaeda will have to support McCain in the coming election,” read a commentary on a password-protected Islamist Web site that is closely linked to Al Qaeda and often disseminates the group’s propaganda.

The endorsement left the McCain campaign sputtering, and noting helplessly that Hamas appears to prefer Barack Obama. Al Qaeda’s apparent enthusiasm for Mr. McCain is manifestly not reciprocated.

“The transcendent challenge of our time [is] the threat of radical Islamic terrorism,” Senator McCain said in a major foreign policy speech this year, adding, “Any president who does not regard this threat as transcending all others does not deserve to sit in the White House.”

That’s a widespread conservative belief. Mitt Romney compared the threat of militant Islam to that from Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union. Some conservative groups even marked “Islamofascism Awareness Week” earlier this month.

Yet the endorsement of Mr. McCain by a Qaeda-affiliated Web site isn’t a surprise to security specialists. Richard Clarke, the former White House counterterrorism director, and Joseph Nye, the former chairman of the National Intelligence Council, have both suggested that Al Qaeda prefers Mr. McCain and might even try to use terror attacks in the coming days to tip the election to him.

“From their perspective, a continuation of Bush policies is best for recruiting,” said Professor Nye, adding that Mr. McCain is far more likely to continue those policies.

An American president who keeps troops in Iraq indefinitely, fulminates about Islamic terrorism, inclines toward military solutions and antagonizes other nations is an excellent recruiting tool. In contrast, an African-American president with a Muslim grandfather and a penchant for building bridges rather than blowing them up would give Al Qaeda recruiters fits.

During the cold war, the American ideological fear of communism led us to mistake every muddle-headed leftist for a Soviet pawn. Our myopia helped lead to catastrophe in Vietnam.

In the same way today, an exaggerated fear of “Islamofascism” elides a complex reality and leads us to overreact and damage our own interests. Perhaps the best example is one of the least-known failures in Bush administration foreign policy: Somalia. Read on using the link...

Who threadjacked this??!! When the investigation is completed, the threadjacker will be BANNED!!!

A vote for McCain is a vote for the Al Qaeda recruitment drive.

[tim williamson]

We are supposed to cast our votes based on what we think others *will* do.

Interesting. What happens if Keith Olberman threatens to go off the air if Obama does not win? Should we all gleefully run and pull any lever possible but Obamas without worrying if we agree with Obama or not?

Basing ones vote on what we think others will do, in the end, will surely produce nothing we want.

[johnfoss]

Basing ones vote on what we think others will do, in the end, will surely produce nothing we want.Note the emphasis. What we think others (the candidates) *will* do. Nobody can *know* what they will do so that doesn't work. Listening to what they say in the campaign may give a general idea, then again it may not.

Like how both say they will lower our taxes, when the math doesn't seem to support that. If spending is not reduced *a lot* the money's going to have to come from somewhere.

I think Keith Olberman is pretty darn funny. Don't like the messenger, or the message?

[tim williamson]

Note the emphasis. What we think others (the candidates) *will* do. Nobody can *know* what they will do so that doesn't work. Listening to what they say in the campaign may give a general idea, then again it may not.

Like how both say they will lower our taxes, when the math doesn't seem to support that. If spending is not reduced *a lot* the money's going to have to come from somewhere.

I think Keith Olberman is pretty darn funny. Don't like the messenger, or the message?

Ah yes, agreed. I missed the point you were trying to make.

I used to think that Bill O'Reilly was the biggest moron when it came to talk TV/politics. But then Keith Olberman came along ...... HILARIOUS...... it is not possible to watch him with a straight face. Ever depressed?....just tune into one of Keiths near frothing at the mouth rants! All O'Reilly did was make me grimace........ uncontrolled laughter induced by Three Stooges level intellect and delivery is much better!

I am actually sorry the election season will be going away. Politicians are a reflection of ourselves as we vote them in...... and if you can't laugh at yourself, who can you laugh at!?