SAM - Zero Emission Vehicle

[thayr]

SAM is a Swiss award-winning and patented Zero Emission Vehicle (ZEV) of a new generation designed and developed by Cree Ltd. Totally electric and capable of carrying 2 people. The batteries delay 1 hour to charge 40% and 6 hours for a full charge. It has an autonomy of 50 - 70 km and 85 top speed. It can accelerate from 0 to 50 km/h in 7 seconds.

http://www.cree.ch/
http://www.cree.ch/images/visuals/3.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMuPLuw21tA

[explosionsq]

This is in no way better for the environment. The car itself has zero emissions, but what about the factories? Electric cars just make the shift from nonpoint source pollution(cars) to point source pollution(the factories).

I'll stick to a traditional car with good gas mileage until we get some real revolutionary technology.

[MuniAddict]

SAM is a Swiss award-winning and patented Zero Emission Vehicle (ZEV) of a new generation designed and developed by Cree Ltd. Totally electric and capable of carrying 2 people. The batteries delay 1 hour to charge 40% and 6 hours for a full charge. It has an autonomy of 50 - 70 km and 85 top speed. It can accelerate from 0 to 50 km/h in 7 seconds.

http://www.cree.ch/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMuPLuw21tA

Fugly as hell death trap. No thanks. Lol, it looks like a cheap plastic model you make yourself from a hobby shop.

[unibikeling]

actually, i see that as one of the worst electric cars. Ive saw electric race cars before.

My reasons for it being bad -

1. Gonna be as expensive as any other electric car
2. it cant accelerate fast, an electric car SHOULD be able to go from 0-60 in 2 seconds.
3. it looks rediculous.
4. they've made electric race cars, which can go faster, last longer, and look better.

[vanpaun]

Get a tesla roadster, 0 to 60 in 2.7 something. And its damn sleek

[MuniAddict]

Get a tesla roadster, 0 to 60 in 2.7 something. And its damn sleekYeah, a traffic cops dream!:rolleyes:

[Seager]

Electric doesn't seem entirely like the way to go since we just shift from burning gas to burning coal. We'll run out of coal one day too, and it's dirtier to burn.

That car isn't so great for going between towns. I say buy a bike that can carry some gear if you are staying in town anyway.

[Danni]

Why not set up a wind mill and/or solar panels to fill up your car? You don't NEED to have coal/natural gas to get the electricity. You can buy roll up solar panels that work extremely well, I think close to 50% efficiency. Forgot the name though...

I'd rather use my road bike than anything. Fast (in the city), healthy, and cheap. If I have to lug stuff I'll take the family rust bucket, but that's 1 in every 10-12 trips.

[unibikeling]

Why not set up a wind mill and/or solar panels to fill up your car? You don't NEED to have coal/natural gas to get the electricity. You can buy roll up solar panels that work extremely well, I think close to 50% efficiency. Forgot the name though...

I'd rather use my road bike than anything. Fast (in the city), healthy, and cheap. If I have to lug stuff I'll take the family rust bucket, but that's 1 in every 10-12 trips.

thats actually a really good idea. We use a $100 solar pannel from Mills Fleet Farm to charge our boat's battery. It works really well. We just lay it on the seat while were running around and doing stuff, then when we go out, its all charged.

[Hazmat]

Well there was this one. But i think it was running on Bio-Diesel. :D
http://www.jdlh.palo-alto.ca.us/pr/sparrow_for_sale2005/thumbnails/HPIM0619med.gif

[unibikeling]

Well there was this one. But i think it was running on Bio-Diesel. :D
http://www.jdlh.palo-alto.ca.us/pr/sparrow_for_sale2005/thumbnails/HPIM0619med.gif

THAT is what i'm talking about for good. The best solution for a fuel crisis is that we make bio-deisel from alge. Thats what my brother says. We would have it, only the US supports ethanol, a lost cause. Theres a way of manufactering alge into biodeisel, but its extremely hard right now. Their on the verge of a breakthrough to make it far easier to make, only they need more money. If the government would put funding into that, they'd have it by now.

[thejdw]

I'll go with salt water, its my fave alternitive car fuel.

[de.bengel]

But i think it was running on Bio-Diesel.
A Corbin Sparrow (http://www.corbinsparrow.com/), and they are electric. I see one driving around here every now and then on my commute. I'd like one if they were still being made.

[Hazmat]

A Corbin Sparrow (http://www.corbinsparrow.com/), and they are electric. I see one driving around here every now and then on my commute. I'd like one if they were still being made.
Is it possible to have 1 custom made???

Cause if not, there are alternatives that may be found. :D
1) Peel P50. (http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3079/peelintln1.jpg)
2) Peel Trident. (http://blog.biklopsdesign.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/e7_12_sb1.jpg)
3) BMW Isetta 500. (http://retrothing.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/03/07/electricisetta.jpg)
4) Campagna T-Rex (http://images.businessweek.com/ss/06/01/3_wheel_cars/image/intro.jpg)
5) Yamaha Vmax Powered 3 Wheeler (http://thekneeslider.com/images/malonevmax.jpg)
6) RTM Tango 3 wheel scooter. (http://images.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://www.gekgo.com/images/3-whee8.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.gekgo.com/3-wheel_gas_scooter_%2520trikes.html&h=289&w=400&sz=22&hl=en&start=25&tbnid=BUOcFF0Nuxt-QM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=124&prev=/images%3Fq%3D3%2Bwheel%2Bcars%26start%3D20%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp%3D20%26hl%3D en%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN)

[john_childs]

Electric doesn't seem entirely like the way to go since we just shift from burning gas to burning coal. We'll run out of coal one day too, and it's dirtier to burn.

That car isn't so great for going between towns. I say buy a bike that can carry some gear if you are staying in town anyway.
Which is why we should be moving towards nuclear as our primary electricity generation rather than coal and natural gas. Nuclear is the green alternative.

Plug-in hybrids are a more piratical type of vehicle. They're not limited to the short trips of a pure electric.

My energy and transportation plan would based around nuclear for primary electricity generation and plug-in hybrids and pure electrics for general driving. I think that combination just makes sense and is reasonably practical.

We'll still need petroleum based fuels and bio-diesel and similar fuels, but we can get by with less of them.

[Seager]

I dunno man, I see nuclear as an extremely short sighted solution. Anything that creates waste that will be around for tens of thousands of years, in leaking, cracking concrete bunkers, is by no means a real alternative.

Especially when you consider that societies and empires generally don't last several thousand years - how many different governments will inherit and possibly forget about maintaining those waste disposal units?

[Danni]

Solar, wind, tidal and geothermal is the way to go. A deep geothermal plant could produce enough electricity for a whole city.

[de.bengel]

Is it possible to have 1 custom made???Some guy has bought all the remaining bodies when the original company went belly-up. You can now get one with Li-Ion instead of lead-acid batteries, doubling the range. But at $30K, I think I'll pass.

[Hazmat]

Some guy has bought all the remaining bodies when the original company went belly-up. You can now get one with Li-Ion instead of lead-acid batteries, doubling the range. But at $30K, I think I'll pass.
I wouldn't cause it would work out better in the long run. Considering where petrol prices are heading. :eek:


So you got to look at things from outside the circle. So to speak. :D

[thejdw]

A deep geothermal plant could produce enough electricity for a whole city.
Think how much that would cost though.

[Hazmat]

Think how much that would cost though.
So, you're willing to pay alot for petrol/burning oils. Rather then look for the alternative sources???

[explosionsq]

Solar, wind, tidal and geothermal is the way to go. A deep geothermal plant could produce enough electricity for a whole city.

I agree with you partially. I feel that the future of sustainable energy will come from using solar or wind power to generate power from hydrogen.

[surfer1024]

it emits rubber as the tire wears down.:cool:

[john_childs]

I agree with you partially. I feel that the future of sustainable energy will come from using solar or wind power to generate power from hydrogen.
How do you rely on solar and wind power? What if it is a cloudy day or the wind isn't blowing?

Solar and wind are fine as a supplementary source. You just can't rely on them too heavily on them or you'll come up short on cloudy and windless days.

[explosionsq]

How do you rely on solar and wind power? What if it is a cloudy day or the wind isn't blowing?

Solar and wind are fine as a supplementary source. You just can't rely on them too heavily on them or you'll come up short on cloudy and windless days.

Most photovalic cell technology has the ability to store energy, same with the more recent wind turbines. If the turbines stop turning, the power doesn't go away. Also, these sources(at least according to the idea I'm supporting) don't provide the power directly. They use it to generate even more power from hydrogen.

[Seager]

How do you rely on solar and wind power? What if it is a cloudy day or the wind isn't blowing?

Solar and wind are fine as a supplementary source. You just can't rely on them too heavily on them or you'll come up short on cloudy and windless days.


You put them in places where the wind never stops blowing, like the coast or Wyoming, or where the sun never stops shining, like phoenix. With enough turbines and cells in key places around each state is should take care of much of our issues, without creating nuclear waste. States with coastlines can use wave power, assuming their placed somewhere that won't mess too much with aquatic life.