View Full Version : What changes would you like to see, in general?
BillyTheMountain
2008-03-23, 01:53 AM
I'd like to see the military death benefit paid to families of dead U.S. soldiers doubled from $500,000 to $1 million, and extend that to soldiers of ANY nation who die fighting for the USA in any war the USA starts, including our Iraqi allies.
What changes would you like to see?
vanpaun
2008-03-23, 02:14 AM
Water fountains that have orange soda!!!!!!!
EDIT: public petting zoos too
unisteve
2008-03-23, 02:22 AM
I'd like more people to be nice and generous to others without expecting any kind of a reward. Just being nice for the sake of one's fellow human beings.
harper
2008-03-23, 02:26 AM
Underwear.
UniDudeDX
2008-03-23, 02:30 AM
I'd like to see the military death benefit paid to families of dead U.S. soldiers doubled from $500,000 to $1 million, and extend that to soldiers of ANY nation who die fighting for the USA in any war the USA starts, including our Iraqi allies.
and how much are we ALREADY in debt??
Divebomber
2008-03-23, 02:50 AM
I'd like to see the military death benefit paid to families of dead U.S. soldiers doubled from $500,000 to $1 million, and extend that to soldiers of ANY nation who die fighting for the USA in any war the USA starts, including our Iraqi allies.
What changes would you like to see?
Lets worry about America first.
Nimbusnut
2008-03-23, 02:53 AM
Before we invaded, Iraq was producing 2 million barrels of oil a day. It shouldn't be all that hard to connect the dots and see that the potential of Iraqi production could really take the edge off of the price of the occupation. It's interesting to note however that Haliburton not only has the contract to fight oil well fires, it also holds the contract that includes "operation of facilities and distribution of the products". I would add that Haliburton sends oil to Kuwat, refines it and then sells fuel to our military at inflated prices, but that would insinuate that some people are actually involved in war profiteering.
Divebomber
2008-03-23, 02:57 AM
Before we invaded, Iraq was producing 2 million barrels of oil a day. It shouldn't be all that hard to connect the dots and see that the potential of Iraqi production could really take the edge off of the price of the occupation. It's interesting to note however that Haliburton not only has the contract to fight oil well fires, it also holds the contract that includes "operation of facilities and distribution of the products". I would add that Haliburton sends oil to Kuwat, refines it and then sells fuel to our military at inflated prices, but that would insinuate that some people are actually involved in war profiteering.
Well.....American gasoline companies are claiming the biggest profit ever. They're not doing too shabby with those inflated prices to make those claims....
yoopers
2008-03-23, 03:27 AM
Underwear.
At what frequency?
mornish
2008-03-23, 03:32 AM
I would like to see:
something done about our national dept.
useless wars to stop.
more help given to the homeless.
real problems like child soldiers and genocides to be given media attention = we do something to help them.
-Miles
kington99
2008-03-23, 10:14 AM
I'd like everyone to realise that we've never had it so good.
cathwood
2008-03-23, 10:41 AM
I'd like everyone to realise that we've never had it so good.
Well that all depends on who 'we' are.
At the moment most of the deaths in the world occur due to poverty. 'This poverty is neither inevitable nor necessary, but a function of the system that has been carefully structured so as to enhance the wealth of a tiny minority, most of whom reside in the richest countires. Indeed, the standard of living in the richer nations depends largely on the exsistency of poverty and the exploitation of the poorest nations'.
the life expectancy of those in the rich countries is twice that of people in the poorest countires.
Although there is enough food to feed the entire human population millions still starve to death.
In Britain there are levels of equality between the rich and the poor that are larger now than at any other time since the 1930s and the UK and the USA now have the largest percentage of poorer people than any of the other 'developed' countries.
Compared to the rest of Europe, Britiain has one of the lowest life expectancy rates, the most deregulated labour markets, the longest working hours, and the hightest divorce rates and proportion of one parent families.
So, like I said, it depends on who 'we' are.
kington99
2008-03-23, 11:42 AM
Well that all depends on who 'we' are.
At the moment most of the deaths in the world occur due to poverty. 'This poverty is neither inevitable nor necessary, but a function of the system that has been carefully structured so as to enhance the wealth of a tiny minority, most of whom reside in the richest countires. Indeed, the standard of living in the richer nations depends largely on the exsistency of poverty and the exploitation of the poorest nations'.
the life expectancy of those in the rich countries is twice that of people in the poorest countires.
Although there is enough food to feed the entire human population millions still starve to death.
In Britain there are levels of equality between the rich and the poor that are larger now than at any other time since the 1930s and the UK and the USA now have the largest percentage of poorer people than any of the other 'developed' countries.
Compared to the rest of Europe, Britiain has one of the lowest life expectancy rates, the most deregulated labour markets, the longest working hours, and the hightest divorce rates and proportion of one parent families.
So, like I said, it depends on who 'we' are.
a lot of these facts are relative, we have one of the lowest life expectancies, but it's still higher than it's ever been isn't it? does that fact that our life expectancy is twice that of poor countries necessarily mean that either has decreased? no. Was there ever a time in modern history where there weren't millions of people starving to death?
I'm saying things are better than they were, you're saying things are bad, those two statements aren't mutually exclusive.
Chrashing
2008-03-23, 12:46 PM
The soldiers home from Iraq. Bush out of office, and warmer spring like temperatures.
unibikeling
2008-03-23, 01:48 PM
Water fountains that have orange soda!!!!!!!
EDIT: public petting zoos too
I second that commotion!
I would also like to see Mao Zedong run our country, dictatorship, duh. I would also like all our infants to begin enrolling in the military, it would help our soldiers.
We need more cake! the iraqies need cake. I would also like all the troops to be able to ride a uni, it would help stuff. The united states biggest export should be toilet paper. And our biggest import to be toilet paper. We must take nunuvut from canada! and also prince edward island. Then we need to take glascom (whereever the hell that is) we need colonies in Europe. So we can moniter them. Also we need to go to war with germany (since they dont have a militant anymore)
yeah...
vanpaun
2008-03-23, 02:06 PM
drop pornography age to 13!!!!!! and public healthcare. and better school system
kington99
2008-03-23, 03:40 PM
drop pornography age to 13!!!!!!
sorry, the age you can buy it or star in it?
UniDudeDX
2008-03-23, 04:04 PM
i think Van would be the leading slut in "Have U dropped YOUR balls yet???*bats eyelashes*"
vanpaun
2008-03-23, 04:10 PM
age you can legally watch or buy it. btw that is going in my sig
EDIT: really though, 13 year old kids will watch porn...or have their brothers get them a birthday present :O
cathwood
2008-03-23, 06:43 PM
a lot of these facts are relative, we have one of the lowest life expectancies, but it's still higher than it's ever been isn't it? does that fact that our life expectancy is twice that of poor countries necessarily mean that either has decreased? no. Was there ever a time in modern history where there weren't millions of people starving to death?
I'm saying things are better than they were, you're saying things are bad, those two statements aren't mutually exclusive.
Ok.
But I still stand by my orignal point, things are only better from a westerncentric point of view. For many peoples - the indigenouse peoples of America, Canada and Austrilia as well as those in the Third world for instance life is no better than it was and may be even worse. They are more likely to suffer effects of global warming and so on.
spazdude222
2008-03-23, 06:50 PM
I'd like to see unborn children given the same rights as born children...
spazdude222
2008-03-23, 06:54 PM
public healthcare = terrible idea... I don't want to start an argument, and am too lazy to type a lot right now, so i'll leave my opinion undefended. This way you can assume I've done no research and am simply wrong! :D
BillyTheMountain
2008-03-23, 08:53 PM
I'd like to see unborn children given the same rights as born children...
Bush would also like to find a way to get them into
factory sweatshop slavery, but I think it's just plain wrong to do that to the unborn!
vanpaun
2008-03-23, 09:00 PM
unborn children must go to school?!
edit woooo there is a 69 in my post count! Kabam (369)
phlegm
2008-03-24, 12:16 AM
In general? I want life to be better.
How about a shorter work week? Technology is supposed to make our lives easier. Why do we have to work 5 days a week? Why can't 3 or 4 days be the norm? Stupid rat race. :p
Divebomber
2008-03-24, 01:24 AM
EDIT: public petting zoos too
I don't know. Those pets for sale at petsmart that people can handle get pretty snippy. I don't think animals like having hundreds of strangers touch them everyday. I think it's terrible they do that. I'm not going to buy a cat that hates me because it's been handled too much!
Catboy
2008-03-24, 01:25 AM
More respect for Mac Dre. Instead of wasting all that government money on people who do nothing but cry about dead people(LAME!) it should be spent on getting the space program to send a probe to Iapetus, Saturn's most evil and powerful moon. The probe could then return with samples of moonrock, which my brother could stick in the exaust of a '73 Corvette(while runnning) and then eat, giving him superhuman powers never seen before. Being able to create moonzombies would result and inevitably allow him to bring Mac Dre back to life so all the fools would stop wasting money on caskets for war zeroes and invest it in the greatest pimp hand of all Mac Moon Dre!!
Yup!
$unidude$chad$:)
2008-03-24, 02:41 AM
lets nuclear bomb the whole earth, have 2 survivors(1 male 1 female) and start over!
Hazmat
2008-03-24, 02:43 AM
lets nuclear bomb the whole earth, have 2 survivors(1 male 1 female) and start over!
What if the female or male don't like each other cause they despise the opposite sex???
peleschramm
2008-03-24, 03:05 AM
I'd like to see unborn children given the same rights as born children...
Id like to see an end to anti-abortion movements. They are ridiculous and depressing.
UniDudeDX
2008-03-24, 03:07 AM
Id like to see an end to anti-abortion movements. They are ridiculous and depressing.
i am completely for abortion.
mornish
2008-03-24, 04:41 AM
I would like nations to pour money into things like medicine, stem cell researched etc, not more war and weapons of war.
I would like magic to exist.
Nimbusnut
2008-03-24, 04:03 PM
Hmm, public healthcare.. Why does it cost the French $3,500.00 per person and everyone is covered and in the US, we pay $6,500.00 per person and not only do we have a lot of uninsured... And consider this point, even the people WITH insurance aren't always covered. 34 cents out of every dollar in the US's health care budget doesn't go to anything beyond paper work and paying for the people that figure out how to deny insurance claims.
You may think you are safe, but you aren't: Over half of all bankruptcies filed are due to catastrophic illnesses or other medical issues... This statistic is for all of you that think you are covered... 75% of those who filed for bankruptcy who file because of a medical reason WERE fully covered by insurance and then were denied because the insurance companies found ways to weasel out of paying.
So don't be too cocky, you may have insurance, but when the time comes that you need it, there's an army of people taking that 35 cents per dollar whose job it is to find ways to deny you coverage. hahahahahaha, the joke's on you!
$unidude$chad$:)
2008-03-24, 04:15 PM
What if the female or male don't like each other cause they despise the opposite sex??? then uhhh well choose 2 that liek each other:Di guess?
Divebomber
2008-03-24, 05:21 PM
Hmm, public healthcare.. Why does it cost the French $3,500.00 per person and everyone is covered and in the US, we pay $6,500.00 per person and not only do we have a lot of uninsured... And consider this point, even the people WITH insurance aren't always covered. 34 cents out of every dollar in the US's health care budget doesn't go to anything beyond paper work and paying for the people that figure out how to deny insurance claims.
You may think you are safe, but you aren't: Over half of all bankruptcies filed are due to catastrophic illnesses or other medical issues... This statistic is for all of you that think you are covered... 75% of those who filed for bankruptcy who file because of a medical reason WERE fully covered by insurance and then were denied because the insurance companies found ways to weasel out of paying.
So don't be too cocky, you may have insurance, but when the time comes that you need it, there's an army of people taking that 35 cents per dollar whose job it is to find ways to deny you coverage. hahahahahaha, the joke's on you!
Kick people while they're down! I'm insured, but have had to pay for a few things out of pocket and my insurance won't cover a lot of things. I certainally don't think I'm better off than anyone, but I also don't think public healthcare like they have in France will work here. Everyone forgets that France is a a small country compared to the US. Don't be to uppity about your "facts" man....
augustdreamt
2008-03-24, 05:29 PM
Hmm, public healthcare.. Why does it cost the French $3,500.00 per person and everyone is covered and in the US, we pay $6,500.00 per person and not only do we have a lot of uninsured... And consider this point, even the people WITH insurance aren't always covered. 34 cents out of every dollar in the US's health care budget doesn't go to anything beyond paper work and paying for the people that figure out how to deny insurance claims.
You may think you are safe, but you aren't: Over half of all bankruptcies filed are due to catastrophic illnesses or other medical issues... This statistic is for all of you that think you are covered... 75% of those who filed for bankruptcy who file because of a medical reason WERE fully covered by insurance and then were denied because the insurance companies found ways to weasel out of paying.
So don't be too cocky, you may have insurance, but when the time comes that you need it, there's an army of people taking that 35 cents per dollar whose job it is to find ways to deny you coverage. hahahahahaha, the joke's on you!
Yeah, I was in the middle of a serious job hunt when I unexpectedly fell pregnant last year. I was none too happy about having to quit the job hunt and staying with a soul-sucking job that I absolutely despise, all because of my "pre-existing medical condition" that would prevent my prenatal care from being covered by another insurance company.
Goodness forbid if I should ever have a pre-existing medical condition that doesn't cure itself in nine months, or else I'll never be able to leave.
augustdreamt
2008-03-24, 05:35 PM
Kick people while they're down! I'm insured, but have had to pay for a few things out of pocket and my insurance won't cover a lot of things. I certainally don't think I'm better off than anyone, but I also don't think public healthcare like they have in France will work here. Everyone forgets that France is a a small country compared to the US. Don't be to uppity about your "facts" man....
Yeah, but the fact remains that the system we have in place is a dismal failure for everyone but the insurance companies. I don't know enough about France's system to know if it would work here or not, but I doubt that it would be worse than what we've got now. We have people dying prematurely in our country simply because they cannot afford proper healthcare. That needs to stop.
Divebomber
2008-03-24, 06:40 PM
Yeah, but the fact remains that the system we have in place is a dismal failure for everyone but the insurance companies. I don't know enough about France's system to know if it would work here or not, but I doubt that it would be worse than what we've got now. We have people dying prematurely in our country simply because they cannot afford proper healthcare. That needs to stop.
I agree, but I just think people need to be realistic about it.
JJuggle
2008-03-24, 06:48 PM
I would like to see someone marketing the Lazagnut Bar.
Pasta, ground beef and sausage, mozzarella and ricotta cheeses, and tomato sauce wrapped in nougat, coated with chocolate, and dipped in coconut.
mscalisi
2008-03-24, 06:58 PM
Socialized healthcare is the ONLY realistic solution. The US is the only 1st World nation not to have it.
I agree, but I just think people need to be realistic about it.
Danni
2008-03-24, 07:09 PM
Kick people while they're down! I'm insured, but have had to pay for a few things out of pocket and my insurance won't cover a lot of things. I certainally don't think I'm better off than anyone, but I also don't think public healthcare like they have in France will work here. Everyone forgets that France is a a small country compared to the US. Don't be to uppity about your "facts" man....
"Small country"... France has a population of over 60 million. UK also. Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Switzerland etc all have universal health care. That adds to a lot more than just the U.S.
Judge a nation by how it treats it's inferiors.
Divebomber
2008-03-24, 07:55 PM
"Small country"... France has a population of over 60 million. UK also. Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Switzerland etc all have universal health care. That adds to a lot more than just the U.S.
Judge a nation by how it treats it's inferiors.
I'm not saying that these countries are puny weaklings that treat people worse than America does. I wish people would quit assuming all Americans think every country but America sucks. It's simply not true. Some of us actually like other countries besides the US and respect them. I'm one of them. I don't turn my head at all the dumb stuff America does. Nor do I "judge a nation" based on anything. Thanks for assuming the completely wrong thing.
Secondly, France, and most of the individual countries in Europe are smaller than the US. By size and population. My issue is, it might be easier to do it in a "smaller country" (by SIZE) than the US where not everyone is on board with it. Also, taxes are insane here and would only increase if we had free healthcare. It's not free in these countries. The people do pay for them, but not to an insurance company. They pay the government in taxes and get their healthcare. Someone is paying for it. NOTHING IN LIFE IS FREE! I wish people would see this. Yes, our system sucks and forever presidents have promised a better healthcare system, but have failed to do so. Believe me, I know more about the woes of American healthcare than you'd care to know. I just don't see universal free healthcare as a possibility unless our economy gets better. It's either we're at the mercy of the government or the insurance companies. Which is the lesser evil? American governmet or an insurance company?
I don't want to see people die because they have to pay rent over their medical bills, but people on fixed incomes would still be paying out the ying yang for the services they use most to pay for that "free" healthcare. There needs to be a revision of the healthcare system, but re-doing the system overnight and making it "free", in my opinion, isn't an option right now without some issues....sorry....
mscalisi
2008-03-24, 08:32 PM
There is no reason it wouldn't scale up. Heck, if it could be managed by the states, that would be a reduction in scale.
Taxes may increase, but not cost. You already pay in a number of ways. One is the premium you pay to your company for health care costs. Another is your employer paying for your plan. This comes out of your paycheck, albeit indirectly. Then there are the out of pocket costs (deductibles, co-pays, out of band services). If all these things were eliminated and your taxes were raised, the real cost to you wouldn't be higher. It could be lower. If you wanted to not tax individuals directly, you could tax businesses an amount roughly coresponding to the amount the no longer would be paying toward health care. There are lots of ways to fund this. It doesn't have to cost more, and it should cost less.
No one is calling this FREE. It is not. It is simply a restructuring.
Secondly, France, and most of the individual countries in Europe are smaller than the US. By size and population. My issue is, it might be easier to do it in a "smaller country" (by SIZE) than the US where not everyone is on board with it. Also, taxes are insane here and would only increase if we had free healthcare. It's not free in these countries. The people do pay for them, but not to an insurance company. They pay the government in taxes and get their healthcare. Someone is paying for it. NOTHING IN LIFE IS FREE! I wish people would see this. Yes, our system sucks and forever presidents have promised a better healthcare system, but have failed to do so. Believe me, I know more about the woes of American healthcare than you'd care to know. I just don't see universal free healthcare as a possibility unless our economy gets better. It's either we're at the mercy of the government or the insurance companies. Which is the lesser evil? American governmet or an insurance company?
I don't want to see people die because they have to pay rent over their medical bills, but people on fixed incomes would still be paying out the ying yang for the services they use most to pay for that "free" healthcare. There needs to be a revision of the healthcare system, but re-doing the system overnight and making it "free", in my opinion, isn't an option right now without some issues....sorry....
thejdw
2008-03-24, 10:11 PM
I would like to see 4 dollars to the pound at some point.
Into the blue
2008-03-24, 11:11 PM
I would like to see beef and chicken flavoured ice-cream and fruit flavoured crisps (potato chips).
vanpaun
2008-03-24, 11:57 PM
then uhhh well choose 2 that liek each other:Di guess?
everyone cant be from the 2 same people can you say genetic failure? What race would they be white? only room for two, so no asians. it would need to be about 5000 people bare minimum. 50000 is beter. A million wont even take up that much space. And how will they feed themselves. all animals are dead. no plants. I HATE YOUR THEORY GAHHHHHH!!!!!!!
yoopers
2008-03-25, 12:31 AM
everyone cant be from the 2 same people can you say genetic failure? What race would they be white? only room for two, so no asians. it would need to be about 5000 people bare minimum. 50000 is beter. A million wont even take up that much space. And how will they feed themselves. all animals are dead. no plants. I HATE YOUR THEORY GAHHHHHH!!!!!!!
We'll still have McDonald's fries around. They'll withstand anything.
vanpaun
2008-03-25, 12:40 AM
We'll still have McDonald's fries around. They'll withstand anything.
but would you really want to eat those...
Divebomber
2008-03-25, 01:22 AM
but would you really want to eat those...
It's funny. Coke-a-cola is able to rust a nail if it is submerged in it yet people rink that stuff by the case....
dudewithasock
2008-03-25, 01:27 AM
It's funny. Coke-a-cola is able to rust a nail if it is submerged in it yet people rink that stuff by the case....
Well duh, it's delicious. :D
We'll still have McDonald's fries around. They'll withstand anything.
And Twinkies! Mmmmm.
wickedbob
2008-03-25, 01:28 AM
Boobies, better.
BillyTheMountain
2008-03-25, 02:02 AM
There is no reason it wouldn't scale up. Heck, if it could be managed by the states, that would be a reduction in scale.
Taxes may increase, but not cost. You already pay in a number of ways. One is the premium you pay to your company for health care costs. Another is your employer paying for your plan. This comes out of your paycheck, albeit indirectly. Then there are the out of pocket costs (deductibles, co-pays, out of band services). If all these things were eliminated and your taxes were raised, the real cost to you wouldn't be higher. It could be lower. If you wanted to not tax individuals directly, you could tax businesses an amount roughly coresponding to the amount the no longer would be paying toward health care. There are lots of ways to fund this. It doesn't have to cost more, and it should cost less.
No one is calling this FREE. It is not. It is simply a restructuring.
I guess what you're saying is that the OWNER never pays.
That's why the rich get richer, and the workers work longer hours to keep up.
uni57
2008-03-25, 02:52 AM
#1) I would like people to drive safely and courteously and not put you in grave danger if you happen to get in their way because you don't speed. Have I mentioned this before? :)
#2) I would like raw (unpasteurized) milk to be legal in every state so I don't have to drive to a farm 80 miles away in a neighboring state to get it. (I do a lot of driving, so see #1)
#3) I would like people to stop sending me spam.
#4) I would like people in neighboring cubicles to NOT use the speakerphone, not whistle or sing, turn the radio off, and in general STFU so I can concentrate.
#5) I would like all cars to have quiet mufflers. I live on a busy road and sometimes it's so noisy that it's hard to hold a conversation in my yard. This rule does not apply to motorcycles, because I believe "straight pipes save lives". People drive murderously badly (see #1), so bikes need to be heard in case they are not seen.
kington99
2008-03-25, 09:37 AM
Ok.
But I still stand by my orignal point, things are only better from a westerncentric point of view. For many peoples - the indigenouse peoples of America, Canada and Austrilia as well as those in the Third world for instance life is no better than it was and may be even worse. They are more likely to suffer effects of global warming and so on.
The funny thing is that although we appear to disagree I think we're both driving at the same point here. I am so sick of seeing people in the paper complaining of the minutiae of everyday life, that they're 'outraged' that there's a roundabout in the park, or that the statue by the road has been painted the wrong colour (these are both real examples from the letters section of the Stratford Herald newspaper). It's like watching a brattish child demand the latest toy. When people elsewhere in the world have so little it makes me sick. I guess saying ' I wish people would appreciate what they have' would have been a less contentious way of putting it.
vanpaun
2008-03-25, 10:53 AM
It's funny. Coke-a-cola is able to rust a nail if it is submerged in it yet people rink that stuff by the case....
ewwww the same happens in water.... why do people drink that stuff by the gallon
yoopers
2008-03-25, 12:16 PM
ewwww the same happens in water.... why do people drink that stuff by the gallon
Or milk by the gallon (http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/261249)?
I'd like to see some lunch. It's noon here (CT, USA) and I'm hungry.
Oh yeah, also, world peace and all that stuff too, I guess.
cathwood
2008-03-25, 09:40 PM
The funny thing is that although we appear to disagree I think we're both driving at the same point here. I am so sick of seeing people in the paper complaining of the minutiae of everyday life, that they're 'outraged' that there's a roundabout in the park, or that the statue by the road has been painted the wrong colour (these are both real examples from the letters section of the Stratford Herald newspaper). It's like watching a brattish child demand the latest toy. When people elsewhere in the world have so little it makes me sick. I guess saying ' I wish people would appreciate what they have' would have been a less contentious way of putting it.
Yes, sounds like we're saying the same kind of thing.
What makes it all so sad is that those people really BELIEVE that they are hard done to/by and that other people should put their lives (or roundabouts) right.
BillyTheMountain
2008-03-26, 12:51 AM
#5) I would like all cars to have quiet mufflers. I live on a busy road and sometimes it's so noisy that it's hard to hold a conversation in my yard. This rule does not apply to motorcycles, because I believe "straight pipes save lives". People drive murderously badly (see #1), so bikes need to be heard in case they are not seen.
Instead of straight pipes, I wish motorcycles had an intermittent beep beep beep like trucks have when they are going in reverse, only REALLY LOUD.
tobbogonist
2008-03-28, 09:23 AM
dresses for men.
wobbling bear
2008-03-28, 02:15 PM
No one is calling this FREE. It is not. It is simply a restructuring.
as France was quoted, here is what I have to say: our system has many flaws and need constant overview and budget reassessement.... this said the big difference is cultural. In many countries there is a consensus about having a "socialized" medicine (whatever your political opinions are), in the US I fear that lots of people just think that "socialized" is a dirty word. Though the US with all its imagination and richness (and top medical practitioners) could invent its own succesfull and efficient health system, there are too many people that think this is an immoral infringement of their "liberty".
maestro8
2008-05-05, 08:26 PM
I'd like to see people engage in meaningful discourse, as opposed to drive-by, knee-jerk, reactionary commentary.
I'd also like a law passed that allows pedestrians to stop vehicles whose occupants shout at them while driving by. Y'know, so they could have a friendly chat with said shouter.
johnfoss
2008-05-05, 10:08 PM
Instead of straight pipes, I wish motorcycles had an intermittent beep beep beep like trucks have when they are going in reverse, only REALLY LOUD.Replace one annoying noise with another? I used to live on a main road and remember being awoken at 2 am by a single motorcycle going by. Why does he need to be so freaking loud when he's the only one on the road? That's B.S.
Loud pipes may save (some) lives, but they piss off a much larger number of people, both in cars and anywhere nearby.
The safety problem for motorcycles, in relation to cars, is not being heard, it's being noticed. Hearing is not a requirement of driving (I know lots of deaf people who drive), but sight is. How about brighter, flashy lights? Along with the law allowing for them so they don't become a new annoyance.
And for the guy who wants me to hear him when he's next to me, or in my blind spot, I'll offer "How about not hanging out there?"
Beyond that, I'm definitely with Uni57 on people being generally nicer; more polite in their cars. It's the metal shell that allows us to be much more rude than we would be without it.
maestro8
2008-05-05, 10:49 PM
Loud pipes may save (some) lives
This is a straw man. There is no substance to this argument: no studies have determined any link between the audibility of motorcycles and mortality rates in motorcycle accidents. Studies have, however, found that excessive speed and driver error are two major contributors to fatal motorcycle accidents (see various reports from the IIHS)
but they piss off a much larger number of people, both in cars and anywhere nearby.
Now, assuming your straw man was valid, do you really think there is more worth in "not being pissed off" versus "saving someone's life"?
tobbogonist
2008-05-05, 10:51 PM
This is a straw man. :
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kington99
2008-05-05, 10:54 PM
Now, assuming your straw man was valid, do you really think there is more worth in "not being pissed off" versus "saving someone's life"?
Absoloutely, the government could mandate the genreal public to wear helmets at all times (in eveyrday life, not talking motorcycling here), it would not doubt save some lives at some point, and would severley piss off a huge number of people. The idea's laughable, isn't it?
mscalisi
2008-05-05, 11:18 PM
What I would do:
1. Socialize Health Care
2. Improve education and reduce costs for those who are capabable but can't afford.
3. Free, or greatly reduced costs for medical school in return for reduced pay the first few years of employment. This is to support #1
4. Cut spending to all other social programs,
BUT support them by:
Require all employers to give their employees one day off a month to volunteer for a non-profit of their choice.
Allow people to explicitly control where a portion of their taxes go. EG. feeding the homeless, off-shore health care, any non-profit)
5. Legalize all but the most dangerious drugs, and tax them. Free all those incarcerated for drug use or posession.
6. Make all prisoners earn their keep. Train them in trades. Move manufacturing from China to prisons.
7. Execute all non-reformable repeat violent criminals (murderers and violent rapists).
8. Support small-business above large corporations. Eg. provide advantages for individuals trying to start a business and create disincentives for multi-national corporations, especially those that would be best served by local business (food, crafts, services)
TheGreenMonster
2008-05-05, 11:33 PM
i would like to see people use restroom WAY more oftend i mean come on with the amount of food we are eating we should be pooping like atleast 14 times a day
jk folks;)
johnfoss
2008-05-05, 11:52 PM
Studies have, however, found that excessive speed and driver error are two major contributors to fatal motorcycle accidents (see various reports from the IIHS)Back when I was teaching motorcycles (early 90s), the most common form of motorcycle accident (other than minor stuff like dropping it) was the car making a left turn in the path of the oncoming motorcycle. Driver hardly ever injured, motorcyclist almost always injured. Being louder probably wouldn't help in those scenarios either.
I assumed there wasn't any statistical proof to the loud pipes thing but never tried to look it up. It's just a phrase found on stickers on the helmets of riders of annoyingly loud bikes.
And these loud-pipe-promoters don't really seem to care if they're more audible to the traffic that needs to be aware of them. If they were, the pipes would point some direction other than rearward! How badly do you need to hear a bike that's in front of you, going the same direction?
Now, assuming your straw man was valid, do you really think there is more worth in "not being pissed off" versus "saving someone's life"?I think the two are connected. I'm not going to touch the whole helmet thing, at least not in this thread... :p
harper
2008-05-06, 01:07 AM
i would like to see people use restroom WAY more oftend i mean come on with the amount of food we are eating we should be pooping like atleast 14 times a day
I'm doing my part. I continue to post here.
BillyTheMountain
2008-05-06, 01:11 AM
What I would do:
6. Make all prisoners earn their keep. Train them in trades. Move manufacturing from China to prisons.
Of course, if the educational system was successful at this, we wouldn't be nearly so concerned with prisons.
uni57
2008-05-06, 01:50 AM
i would like to see people use restroom WAY more oftend i mean come on with the amount of food we are eating we should be pooping like atleast 14 times a day LOL, I would like to see more posts like this.
I'm doing my part. I continue to post here.And this.
SqueakyOnion
2008-05-06, 05:16 AM
It's either we're at the mercy of the government or the insurance companies. Which is the lesser evil? American governmet or an insurance company?
I'll take the government any day. The Government is stupid, insurance companies are greedy. The government might lose or mis-manage my money, but at least they won't try to steal it and deny coverage.
I have first-hand experience with this, and will be voting accordingly.
In general, I'd like everyone to just stop treating one another like crap. I see it every day. It sucks.
Seager
2008-05-06, 05:44 AM
Of course, if the educational system was successful at this, we wouldn't be nearly so concerned with prisons.
That problem is bad parents. The educational system can't re-raise our kids. What's a school supposed to do with hundreds of lousily raised kids with no work ethic and absentee parents?
Goodness forbid if I should ever have a pre-existing medical condition that doesn't cure itself in nine months, or else I'll never be able to leave.
I have good new about that - my wife has similar issues and we did some research and found out that the pre-existing condition clause is only for the first 6 months of coverage. After you are with an insurance company for 6 months they legally have to cover everything, even pre-existing conditions.
harper
2008-05-06, 03:30 PM
In general, I'd like everyone to just stop treating one another like crap. I see it every day. It sucks.
This is an outstanding and brief statement. Thanks.
JJuggle
2008-05-06, 03:36 PM
This is an outstanding and brief statement. Thanks.
Bite me.
harper
2008-05-06, 03:59 PM
Bite me.
Even more terse. Now, which to quote in my sig line?
SqueakyOnion
2008-05-06, 05:06 PM
wow, I'm in harper's sig line, I guess I'm one of the cool kids now. :D
Hazmat
2008-05-07, 12:36 PM
Me and catinabag1 powering up too SS5s so we can create the largest powerbomb ever and defeat all that is EVIL. :D
Now that would be a change i would love to see one day. If it's not going to happen. I can always dream.
catinabag1
2008-05-07, 12:37 PM
Me and catinabag1 powering up too SS5s so we can create the largest powerbomb ever and defeat all that is EVIL. :D
Now that would be a change i would love to see one day. If it's not going to happen. I can always dream.
evil=old ladies?
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