Why Dexter doesn't belong on network TV

[JJuggle]

"I've got my eyes on you, motherlover!"

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[yoopers]

"I've got my eyes on you, motherlover!"
Yeah, gotta love the glorification of a serial killer. Just what we need in this day and time.

[BillyTheMountain]

Yeah, gotta love the glorification of a serial killer. Just what we need in this day and time.

Does he only kill other vicious criminals?

Is he a vigilante?

[qhxakg]

Does he only kill other vicious criminals?

Is he a vigilante?
yes

It is a great show, one of my favorites but I do agree it would be better left on showtime.

[forrestunifreak]

Dexters Labratory?

[fexnix]

"I've got my eyes on you, motherlover!"

Better than to say motherFword? :D

Seriously, you guys need to chill out a bit. It's just a TV show. No need to be over protective.

[monkeyman]

Are we talking about Dexter's Lab, or something else?

[yoopers]

Better than to say motherFword? :D

Seriously, you guys need to chill out a bit. It's just a TV show. No need to be over protective.
And NIU is just another campus. Routine. Par for the course. Just normal. Everyday occurance.

The show does not show in our home, as well as many other of today's primetime garbage.

[JJuggle]

And NIU is just another campus. Routine. Par for the course. Just normal. Everyday occurance.

The show does not show in our home, as well as many other of today's primetime garbage.
Bruce, I understood your comment completely and needless to say my throw away post was not intended to cause additional pain. And since it's clear that it did, I do apologize.

[yoopers]

Bruce, I understood your comment completely and needless to say my throw away post was not intended to cause additional pain. And since it's clear that it did, I do apologize.
Thanks R, but no need to apologize. I read your initial post as this particular show indeed does not belong on the airwaves.

I was a little off kilter by fexnix's post that serial killing, no matter who the target happens to be, is great viewing for the entire family. Let's present as much killing as possible in the name of entertainment to make it just another common occurance, a routine thing in life. Let's desensitize our children to killing and make it ordinary. Yep, it's just another TV show. Why get all bent out of shape about it.

[john_childs]

Very little of what is on network TV and cable TV is worth watching as it is. I don't watch TV drama shows. I have never watched even a single episode of Lost or 24 or Heroes or any of the other prime time shows. Sitcoms just make me feel stupid for wasting time to watch them.

The only things decent on TV are some news shows, documentaries, MythBusters, some sports, and Food Network.

I'd rather listen to a CD than watch a TV network show.

[maestro8]

I was a little off kilter by fexnix's post that serial killing, no matter who the target happens to be, is great viewing for the entire family. Let's present as much killing as possible in the name of entertainment to make it just another common occurance, a routine thing in life. Let's desensitize our children to killing and make it ordinary. Yep, it's just another TV show. Why get all bent out of shape about it.
It's easier to blame the TV show than the parents / teachers / community leaders who turn a blind eye to the subject. It's easier to hand Junior the remote control than to talk with him about what he's going to watch tonight.

Why should my viewing habits be mandated by what's safe for the lazy, undereducated masses, for the families who refuse to talk amongst themselves about healthy decision making, for the weak minded individuals whom society ignores?

The TV show is but a scapegoat. Our problems are much bigger than what's playing on the tube. It just so happens that we're numbing our minds with TV so we don't have to think about those problems.

[Divebomber]

It's easier to blame the TV show than the parents / teachers / community leaders who turn a blind eye to the subject. It's easier to hand Junior the remote control than to talk with him about what he's going to watch tonight.

Why should my viewing habits be mandated by what's safe for the lazy, undereducated masses, for the families who refuse to talk amongst themselves about healthy decision making, for the weak minded individuals whom society ignores?

The TV show is but a scapegoat. Our problems are much bigger than what's playing on the tube. It just so happens that we're numbing our minds with TV so we don't have to think about those problems.


+1

Although, just because 10 year old kids can watch a show about killing and go and kill doesn't make them "weak minded" just not looked after. I mean, after all, the parents are responsible to teach kids that just because someone kills on TV doesn't mean it's OK in real life. I wouldn't say a kid that a kid who watches Bevis and Butthead and sees Butthead drive a ride-on lawn mower into a pool of wet cement and goes and does it himself is "uneducated", either. How "educated" can you expect a child to be? Again, it goes back to the parents. I watched plenty of B&B as a kid and never went out and did any of that stuff, but I was also taught right from wrong. Some kids aren't, but it doesn't make them "weak-minded"....

[JJuggle]

Ok, this thread was started as a bit of a joke.

Nobody says "motherlover" and if you have to force your characters to say such a non-word, well, you should keep your show on cable. That was my point.

Bruce, I continue to be sorry if this thread brought up unpleasant thoughts.

[augustdreamt]

It's easier to blame the TV show than the parents / teachers / community leaders who turn a blind eye to the subject. It's easier to hand Junior the remote control than to talk with him about what he's going to watch tonight.

Why should my viewing habits be mandated by what's safe for the lazy, undereducated masses, for the families who refuse to talk amongst themselves about healthy decision making, for the weak minded individuals whom society ignores?

The TV show is but a scapegoat. Our problems are much bigger than what's playing on the tube. It just so happens that we're numbing our minds with TV so we don't have to think about those problems.

Very well put. I agree entirely.

[yoopers]

Ok, this thread was started as a bit of a joke.

Nobody says "motherlover" and if you have to force your characters to say such a non-word, well, you should keep your show on cable. That was my point.

Bruce, I continue to be sorry if this thread brought up unpleasant thoughts.
I'm okay, R. Thanks. You're a great friend.

[BillyTheMountain]

And NIU is just another campus. Routine. Par for the course. Just normal. Everyday occurance.

The show does not show in our home, as well as many other of today's primetime garbage.

The campus shooter was not a serial killer, stop mixing apples and oranges.

[BillyTheMountain]

+1

Although, just because 10 year old kids can watch a show about killing and go and kill doesn't make them "weak minded" just not looked after. I mean, after all, the parents are responsible to teach kids that just because someone kills on TV doesn't mean it's OK in real life. I wouldn't say a kid that a kid who watches Bevis and Butthead and sees Butthead drive a ride-on lawn mower into a pool of wet cement and goes and does it himself is "uneducated", either. How "educated" can you expect a child to be? Again, it goes back to the parents. I watched plenty of B&B as a kid and never went out and did any of that stuff, but I was also taught right from wrong. Some kids aren't, but it doesn't make them "weak-minded"....

I'm with you!

[critter]

"I've got my eyes on you, motherlover!"

Ha ! It's funny how they filled in the *&#@&!
It will show that a drama is still good even if they don't swear on every other sentence.

Too much *&%$##@ in stories that don't need it. It gets old....or maybe I am getting old:(

That goes for everyday life. Be intelligent, find a better word than *#@*!

Love Dexter!!!! But I will watch it uncut without commercials because it was TIVO'ed by a friend. .....thanks friend!

[yoopers]

The campus shooter was not a serial killer, stop mixing apples and oranges.
I'm sure the victim's families enjoyed settling in last Sunday night to enjoy a great episode of Dexter together.

[ThisGuyIKnow]

I'm sure the victim's families enjoyed settling in last Sunday night to enjoy a great episode of Dexter together.

I'm sure those that care or offended by it will choose to not watch it until after their mourning process is over. Then they well settle back into their normal TV viewing habits just like the victims families of the other three school shootings that also happened last week but got less coverage will do.

As for Dexter it seems to be a pretty good show and a network TV re-air is a pretty good idea, but if I'm ever going to watch it I'll just get the DVDs from netflix.

[dudewithasock]

Are we talking about Dexter's Lab, or something else?

+1...this whole thread is lost on me. Is that show even on the air any more?

[Borgschulze]

This thread pisses me off and makes me want to kill people.

Why can't people just find something they enjoy, instead of whining about what other people enjoy.

Example: I think religion is a big scam to get money and little boys for pedophiles, therefore I ignore it.

I also get really angry watching the news, because it's basically all religion and media, which doesn't qualify as "important" in my mind.

I'm sure the victim's families enjoyed settling in last Sunday night to enjoy a great episode of Dexter together.

You know... I recently played Call of Duty.

I repeatedly listened to soldiers yelling "Krauts, over there!" and other such racist phrases towards Germans.

You know what I did, I uninstalled it, never to be played again. Then I proceeded to not go and whine about it.

The Holocaust should have existed for EVERY race, including Germans. Humans are pathetic.

[Apoc56]

And NIU is just another campus. Routine. Par for the course. Just normal. Everyday occurance.

The show does not show in our home, as well as many other of today's primetime garbage.

Honest Question:
Have you seen the show?

If you have, then calling it garbage is your opinion, which I respect but disagree with. But if you haven't, I'd suggest at least catching the first couple episodes. In my opinion it really is a quality show. It really makes you think about what is 'humanity'? What is morally right or wrong? I think you might even find your self empathizing with Dexter. Maybe not in killing people, but in how he sees the world and the people in it, and how he tries to fit into that world.

I think the advertising over exaggerates the serial killer aspect quite a bit.

[wickedbob]

The Holocaust should have existed for EVERY race, including Germans. Humans are pathetic.

I agreed with most of that post, but that part lost me. Would you care to explain by what you mean by that?

[swarbrim]

I was a little off kilter by fexnix's post that serial killing, no matter who the target happens to be, is great viewing for the entire family. Let's present as much killing as possible in the name of entertainment to make it just another common occurance, a routine thing in life. Let's desensitize our children to killing and make it ordinary.

No. Fexnix did not say that. He said people were overprotected, not that serial killing is great viewing. Bruce, I do not wish to insult you or upset you, but please try to appreciate other people’s points of view.

In saying that I still do not fully understand this thread, from what I can pick up is that the shootings in one school (NIU) is being blamed on a TV show. I am certainly over simplifying again, could anyone care to delve deeper and tell us what this is about?

Cheers.

[Spoonthumb]

I agreed with most of that post, but that part lost me. Would you care to explain by what you mean by that?


yeah i didnt get that last bit either

[yoopers]

Bruce, I do not wish to insult you or upset you, but please try to appreciate other people’s points of view.
My apologies to the crew here for my uncharacteristic accusations. It's just a little tender in this neck of the woods at the moment. I was out to the campus and it was a very somber and reverent time, but that's no excuse to take it out on you all.

Again, my apologies.

[Borgschulze]

yeah i didnt get that last bit either
All humans do is fight and argue.

[Divebomber]

All humans do is fight and argue.

But that doesn't mean that every human needs to suffer the loss that was suffered during the holocaust. No group should've suffered that. That was senseless. Are you saying that you should suffer that loss as well? You are human after all...

[fexnix]

Thanks Bruce for completely altering what I've said. I never claimed that serial killing was "great viewing for the entire family". Small children should definitely not watch the show, although I believe that at a relatively low age you can see the difference between fiction and real life, and therefor know that killing is wrong and should stay on TV or the movies.

We do have Dexter on one of the biggest channels here in Sweden too. But we haven't had a single school shooting. How come? Maybe there are other things in a society than TV shows that causes these terrible things to happen.

I would like to say it was never my intention to hurt anyone with my post and I apologize if I did.

[Borgschulze]

But that doesn't mean that every human needs to suffer the loss that was suffered during the holocaust. No group should've suffered that. That was senseless. Are you saying that you should suffer that loss as well? You are human after all...
Might as well.

Seeing as how every other race seems to want compensation for stuff that has gone down in the past, I might as well get that same payback brought onto me.

It won't happen though, since it's "wrong", the last 100 years or so of History that I know seems to make humans into a bunch of push overs.

[Divebomber]

Might as well.

Seeing as how every other race seems to want compensation for stuff that has gone down in the past, I might as well get that same payback brought onto me.

It won't happen though, since it's "wrong", the last 100 years or so of History that I know seems to make humans into a bunch of push overs.


I can see where you're coming from, but I choose not to give into the "this or that happened to my race 100 years ago so therefore, you owe me one" garbage. Simply because I was not responsible for something that happened 100 years ago. I wasn't even alive. But I don't think that means that others should suffer the loss so they have a right to get payback. In my opinion, I'm not going to "payback" something I don't owe. It's not my problem that your great, great grandaddy had hardships...

[augustdreamt]

Borgschulze, I'm a little unclear as to when Germans suddenly became their own separate race of people. And I have no idea what compensation you feel you deserve, nor why. You're doing a bit of a poor job explaining exactly what you are talking about.

[monkeyman]

All humans do is fight and argue.

No we don't.

[augustdreamt]

Does anyone want to start a new thread? It's an interesting discussion but this thread is straying woefully far from its original course.

[dudewithasock]

No we don't.

Shutup!

I'ma go ewar woowar on your ass.

[augustdreamt]

I can see where you're coming from, but I choose not to give into the "this or that happened to my race 100 years ago so therefore, you owe me one" garbage. Simply because I was not responsible for something that happened 100 years ago. I wasn't even alive. But I don't think that means that others should suffer the loss so they have a right to get payback. In my opinion, I'm not going to "payback" something I don't owe. It's not my problem that your great, great grandaddy had hardships...

I actually really disagree with this here. I feel like if someone has benefited from the wrongdoings of their predecessors, then compassion dictates that they should do SOMETHING to right those wrongs for the folks who were hurt. To put it another way, if you worked hard and your boss gives you a bag of money for your trouble, but you find out after it's spent that your boss killed an innocent to steal that money, what would you do? Would you blithely blow off the family that was affected and tell them that it's not your problem, even if you benefit from their bloodshed?

It's the same principle, even across generations. You do enough wrong, your actions can have repercussions that can affect families and children and great-great-grandchildren for untold years to come. It doesn't matter if it happened yesterday or 100 years ago. If your great-grandfather committed murder to procure the money for house you live in today, would you really be so dismissive if the poor family that bled for your shelter showed up on your doorstep?

It's not about accepting responsibility or blame, and it's certainly not about making anyone else "suffer." It's about acknowledging the past, being compassionate, and doing what you can to right what is wrong. You can choose not to "give in" if you like, but in my opinion, that only makes the folks that benefit dismally selfish human beings.

[Borgschulze]

Borgschulze, I'm a little unclear as to when Germans suddenly became their own separate race of people. And I have no idea what compensation you feel you deserve, nor why. You're doing a bit of a poor job explaining exactly what you are talking about.
I don't believe I owe anything, nor that anyone owes anything.

Everything happens for a reason.

I was speaking in a WWII view, mainly because I'm called a Nazi quite frequently by ignorant people with extremely stereotypical views on things.

[Divebomber]

I actually really disagree with this here. I feel like if someone has benefited from the wrongdoings of their predecessors, then compassion dictates that they should do SOMETHING to right those wrongs for the folks who were hurt. To put it another way, if you worked hard and your boss gives you a bag of money for your trouble, but you find out after it's spent that your boss killed an innocent to steal that money, what would you do? Would you blithely blow off the family that was affected and tell them that it's not your problem, even if you benefit from their bloodshed?

It's the same principle, even across generations. You do enough wrong, your actions can have repercussions that can affect families and children and great-great-grandchildren for untold years to come. It doesn't matter if it happened yesterday or 100 years ago. If your great-grandfather committed murder to procure the money for house you live in today, would you really be so dismissive if the poor family that bled for your shelter showed up on your doorstep?

It's not about accepting responsibility or blame, and it's certainly not about making anyone else "suffer." It's about acknowledging the past, being compassionate, and doing what you can to right what is wrong. You can choose not to "give in" if you like, but in my opinion, that only makes the folks that benefit dismally selfish human beings.

You're missing my point completely. I'm not saying that I should get a free ride off of someone else's bloodshed, but I am certainly not going to sit back and allow someone to throw me the "race card" because they want a free ride. My family wasn't in this country when things like slavery were going on. I'm 3rd generation. My family was over in Europe when all that was taking place so they didn't contribute or get anything out of it. Why should I be blamed or listen to someone cry? I had nothing to do with it. I am compassionate on people, but people take advantage of that and try to use it to their bennifit. Which I do not support. As far as I know, my house was built in the '80s and no blood was shed nor was it built on some poor families burial ground...

Sorry to sound harsh, but I strongly think that people need to take responsibility for themselves and not use 100 year old histroy to make me feel sorry for them....Sorry....

[augustdreamt]

You're missing my point completely. I'm not saying that I should get a free ride off of someone else's bloodshed, but I am certainly not going to sit back and allow someone to throw me the "race card" because they want a free ride. My family wasn't in this country when things like slavery were going on. I'm 3rd generation. My family was over in Europe when all that was taking place so they didn't contribute or get anything out of it. Why should I be blamed or listen to someone cry? I had nothing to do with it. I am compassionate on people, but people take advantage of that and try to use it to their bennifit. Which I do not support. As far as I know, my house was built in the '80s and no blood was shed nor was it built on some poor families burial ground...

Sorry to sound harsh, but I strongly think that people need to take responsibility for themselves and not use 100 year old histroy to make me feel sorry for them....Sorry....

No, you've missed my point. You're still going on about blame. It has NOTHING to do with blaming anyone and everything to do with compassion. I don't understand where this defensiveness comes from, nor what this mystical "race card" is that people keep whining about. I'd appreciate a definition of that. No one is holding a gun to anyone's head and saying, "You owe me, give it to me." No one is trying to force you to do anything you don't want to do, and no one is asking you to go over your history with a fine-toothed comb to count your family's wrongs.

I don't understand the rabid contempt that some folks have for people that give to those whose families their predecessors have hurt, or for the folks that receive such kindness. No one has been forced or coerced; it's just like any other kind of charity. Anyone that gives does so entirely of their own volition. I also don't get your assumption that anyone on the receiving end of such charity is trying to get a "free ride." What makes these people any different from anyone else in need, such that you feel the need to deride them?

If you seriously believe that you and your family has never benefited in any way in this country by pure virtue of the color of your skin, then you are woefully naive. The impact of slavery and its attending cultural inheritance on people of color today is by no means "history." It is very much alive and well.

[forrestunifreak]

I suppose this means Dexter's Laboratory is safe?

[Divebomber]

No, you've missed my point. You're still going on about blame. It has NOTHING to do with blaming anyone and everything to do with compassion. I don't understand where this defensiveness comes from, nor what this mystical "race card" is that people keep whining about. I'd appreciate a definition of that. No one is holding a gun to anyone's head and saying, "You owe me, give it to me." No one is trying to force you to do anything you don't want to do, and no one is asking you to go over your history with a fine-toothed comb to count your family's wrongs.

I don't understand the rabid contempt that some folks have for people that give to those whose families their predecessors have hurt, or for the folks that receive such kindness. No one has been forced or coerced; it's just like any other kind of charity. Anyone that gives does so entirely of their own volition. I also don't get your assumption that anyone on the receiving end of such charity is trying to get a "free ride." What makes these people any different from anyone else in need, such that you feel the need to deride them?

If you seriously believe that you and your family has never benefited in any way in this country by pure virtue of the color of your skin, then you are woefully naive. The impact of slavery and its attending cultural inheritance on people of color today is by no means "history." It is very much alive and well.

I never said that we never benefited from the color of our skin. I am by no means against giving to people nor am I angry at giving or caring. But not everyone that you give to really needs it. My issue is with those who do want a free ride and work on other's compassion to get it. I, by no means, assume this is everyone nor do I condemn helping people or giving to others. I simply don't believe that everything is what it seems and that giving should be done with safe-guards. Meaning, churches will interview people who want to use their services. Why? To make sure they are legit. There are scammers out there and I've seen it first hand. Also, how many times have people chose not to give a homeless person a couple of bucks for food, but instead gave them a card to do some labor force work. Which isn't a terrible or insulting thing to do. Why give them food for today when they'll have to be fed tomorrow? Give them a solution to be able to eat today and tomorrow. I've seen people work hard to help people only to find out that maybe 1 out of 10 of those people wanted to help themselves out. Churches don't give money to people anymore, but will instead by food, get a motel or feed people. Which in my opinion might be more helpful. It's not about blame, you're right. I'm not looking down on the homeless or anyone in dire need. AT ALL, because we've all needed help and we all need help. I wouldn't want to take that away from someone. Just be careful out there.

[tumblebug rollin]

Take back your life--------TURN OFRF THE TV!

[Borgschulze]

Take back your life--------TURN OFRF THE TV!
You're on a good start to save the world. :)

[dudewithasock]

Take back your life--------TURN OFRF THE TV!

Except for Food Network. That's quality entertainment.

[BillyTheMountain]

No, you've missed my point. You're still going on about blame. It has NOTHING to do with blaming anyone and everything to do with compassion. I don't understand where this defensiveness comes from, nor what this mystical "race card" is that people keep whining about. I'd appreciate a definition of that. No one is holding a gun to anyone's head and saying, "You owe me, give it to me." No one is trying to force you to do anything you don't want to do, and no one is asking you to go over your history with a fine-toothed comb to count your family's wrongs.

I don't understand the rabid contempt that some folks have for people that give to those whose families their predecessors have hurt, or for the folks that receive such kindness. No one has been forced or coerced; it's just like any other kind of charity. Anyone that gives does so entirely of their own volition. I also don't get your assumption that anyone on the receiving end of such charity is trying to get a "free ride." What makes these people any different from anyone else in need, such that you feel the need to deride them?

If you seriously believe that you and your family has never benefited in any way in this country by pure virtue of the color of your skin, then you are woefully naive. The impact of slavery and its attending cultural inheritance on people of color today is by no means "history." It is very much alive and well.

And White privilege exists even in nations that have never had slavery.

But White privilege is difficult for White people to become aware of.

Just like masculine privilege.

It's much eaiser for non-Whites and women to see.

[señor coolguy]

I suppose this means Dexter's Laboratory is safe?

Not with Dee Dee around