Extreme Uni Wall Ride

[JohnnyReggae]

Video of a friend of mine attempting a Wall ride with a 30m drop on one side. Location is Cape Town, on the way to the famous Camps Bay and Clifton beaches.

Google Earth Co-ordinates:
33°55'47.28"S
18°22'32.24"E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M0KJFSkqGU

[Eddbmxdude]

FUCK ME! My heart was actually in my mouth the first time he UPD'd! :o

[WOFT]

Damn - bail to the left ends in death by gravity, bail to the right ends in death by motor vehicle. Crazy!

[DustinSchaap]

sorry to say this, but thats a guy riding on a ledge that is nearly as wide as a road, i don't see the point in risking a 30 meter drop anyway.. and if anything it's skinny riding, not a wallride :p

[jamessd]

Ok I admit, it's something I'd never do and takes guts.

But it still has nothing compared to Kris Holm riding along that bridgerail above the sea (although I'm assuming he wouldn't die if he fell into the sea)

[fido]

title looks cool, vid isn't

you should never try something that could kill you

ride on a rail: it looks better, its harder, and its not so high..

[saskatchewanian]

you should never try something that could kill you
There are a lot of things that can kill you. Driving is a good example.

He looked kind of shaky on there, good thing that UPD was start forward (and he did not drop the uni:) ).

I have no doubt that I could do that, but not sure I would.

[The UniSLAB]

Ok I admit, it's something I'd never do and takes guts.

But it still has nothing compared to Kris Holm riding along that bridgerail above the sea (although I'm assuming he wouldn't die if he fell into the sea)

I agree that it didn't look hard at all, and to me it didn't seem real risky. Although it may have been a more risky for him rather then me because he looked like he was going to fall the whole time he was so shaky.

I also agree that the Kris Holm bridge thing was nuts, and YES that would have killed him if he fell in the water. Water hurts at 60ft (even with pefect technique), and he was definatley alot higher than that.

[Tyler_N]

Damn - bail to the left ends in death by gravity, bail to the right ends in death by motor vehicle. Crazy!
on simple solution...

don't fall!

[Jedimind]

I thought this was gonna be a WALLRIDE to a 30m drop....

This was cool, but a let down when I was expecting a wallride.

[JohnnyReggae]

Although it may have been a more risky for him rather then me because he looked like he was going to fall the whole time he was so shaky.

He does look a little shaky in the video, but is a much better rider than he looks in the video. I wasn't there when the video was taken, so can only assume that the height played a role in that.

[JohnnyReggae]

But it still has nothing compared to Kris Holm riding along that bridgerail above the sea

Not sure anything could compare to Kris Holm riding the bridge rail, beside say Kris Holm riding a bridge rail.....

[phthoruth]

Kris once said something to the effect of "If you're unsure of yourself, you shouldn't be there"

[JohnnyReggae]

Kris once said something to the effect of "If you're unsure of yourself, you shouldn't be there"

I wasn't there when the video was taken, so can only assume that the height played a role in that.

From my posting.... I'm assuming that the height played a role in him being shaky.

[Dr_Juz]

it was his first time pulling a stunt like this on a uni, he prepared all week mentally to dismount on the correct side as well as practiced wall riding on a low wall. Obviously he sussed the wall and situation out very carefully understanding all the elements/risks involved before attempting it.

Personally i was not happy about him doing this, but knowing of his 10 years + experience with unicycles and keenness to push life to the limits.. it was kwell to support him through it … It was great to see his adrenalin pumped smile afterwards !

Not something i would ever try! but hey ... every one has thier limits!

Respect :-)

[The UniSLAB]

he prepared all week mentally to dismount on the correct side as well as practiced wall riding on a low wall. Obviously he sussed the wall and situation out very carefully understanding all the elements/risks involved before attempting it.

are you serious?

[Dr_Juz]

yup, seems like a logical approach when doing things of this nature for the first time?

:-)

[peleschramm]

yeah... idk that was kinda dumb. doesn't seem hard at all. doesn't even seem that dangerous, unless you don't know how to ride very well.

[secretdragonfire]

Firstly to those who didnt think it special...let me enlighten you to a few facts!!!

1. The wall is not flat, it is convex and the curvature changes throughout.
2. The wall has dips in it.
3. The entire wall has concrete patch fills and there are sections of it that are loose.
4. Cape Town has wind, and that section gets hectic wind gusts.
5. If you wipe off to the left...you can consider yourself f*%#ed.

and if you still think otherwise...then put your money where your mouth is and ride that wall yourself!!!

[wheres_your_other_wheel]

Firstly to those who didnt think it special...let me enlighten you to a few facts!!!

1. The wall is not flat, it is convex and the curvature changes throughout.
2. The wall has dips in it.
3. The entire wall has concrete patch fills and there are sections of it that are loose.
4. Cape Town has wind, and that section gets hectic wind gusts.
5. If you wipe off to the left...you can consider yourself f*%#ed.

and if you still think otherwise...then put your money where your mouth is and ride that wall yourself!!!


then y did you do it?

[secretdragonfire]

I did it because I can, and I like balancing my life on a knife edge...and It landed me a tv comercial to walk a tightrope between 2 high rise buildings right at the top in the wind. I am also looking at riding along the thin arm of a crane +- 20-30m drop to solid ground on both sides...:)

[peleschramm]

and if you still think otherwise...then put your money where your mouth is and ride that wall yourself!!!
I would... if i lived in capetown:rolleyes:

[Borgschulze]

Wow, you people putting him down need to stop right now.

Someone risks their life to bring you some entertainment and you tell him it's stupid?

You people should be ashamed of yourselves.

[Joe2005]

Wow, you people putting him down need to stop right now.

Someone risks their life to bring you some entertainment and you tell him it's stupid?

You people should be ashamed of yourselves.
Damn strait! Even though it was not entertaining

[peleschramm]

I wasn't trying to attack personally. I just don't really like the type of riding thats like... all risk and not all that much skill. my least favorite part of Universe 2 is when that one guy is hopping by the edge of that cliff. The scenery is nice, but thats about it and i think it kind of gives people the wrong idea about unicycling. they view it as a simple sport for clowns, and this just shows that its all about entertaining others and theres no real skill to it its just a risk contest. it would be cool if you did say... a sideways wheelwalk on that wall. However, it would be just as cool if there was a 2 foot drop to either side and no traffic/30m drop to the sides. I'm really sorry if I offended anyone, but I'm just speaking my mind. :o

Also, you seem to claim that just riding that wall is hard? This is hard to see in the video so that may be the main reason why I don't appreciate it that much.

Again, I am very sorry if my feelings on this video have offended anyone.

[UniDudeDX]

Damn strait! Even though it was not entertaining
dude. caught it. haha

[secretdragonfire]

There seems to be a lot of controversy regarding me riding on that wall. To some of you it looks easy, yes I agree in the clip it does look easy, but at the end of the day it is not as easy as it looks. The one thing that is not visible in the clip, is that there are loose sections of concrete on that wall, which is why I look shaky riding it. If you notice where my focus is you will realsie that It is on missing those loose patches as I ride. The next part to doing a ride like that, is getting your mind around the drop on the left. Its one thing to ride a section like that if you had flat ground on either side, but its another thing all together to have the real danger of a drop like that to the side. Another thing to bear in mind is that Cape town has hectic wind that is so strong it blows grannies and kids off their feet, and a gust can come from any directin any time.

So then why do I do it is the question I get asked most often...Well because I can, and I enjoy the adrenalin rush of putting my life in the hands of my own skill and walking away alive on the other side.

That ride also landed me a job doing a tv ad where I am required to walk a tightrope between 2 highrise buildings, and believe me that is not for the faint hearted. I want to propose doing it on a uni with the tire and tube taken off and riding on the rim on the tightrope....now that would be an insane stunt. I will keep you guys updated on wether they will consider it and if so I will put the footage on youtube if I can. If anyone has any further comments, then please feel free to email me at....secretdragonfire@gmail.com

Jade Brandhorst

[JohnnyReggae]

Jade, nice riding man. I know that section of the road well, and fully appreciate the conditions and risk. Well done !!

Don't think I'll join you up there though :)

[nickvb123]

Wow, you people putting him down need to stop right now.

Someone risks their life to bring you some entertainment and you tell him it's stupid?

You people should be ashamed of yourselves.

Even though i doubt you are being serious you still have a very inappropriate view of the situation.

There is a fine line between actual and perceived danger. This can be twisted and manipulated by performers to impress an audience. This is something I am very much against. Its essentially a sell out, feeding off the ignorance of low minded people who have no knowledge about whatever they witnessing. Things that can seem amazing may actually have less risk involved than the average car trip. This in part explains some of the backlash people have expressed, because actually being unicyclists ourselves we realise the technical demands are far from exceptional.

Accurately assessing a risk is a very important skill to develop. There should be no shadow of doubt in your mind whatsoever. Ideally, you should have trained similar situations and gained such familiarity that there is no concept of failure in your mind (dont confuse this with overconfidence). It should be so routine to you that it feels completely natural.

This is not the interpretation i was given from watching that video. Im sure the conditions weren't great, but look at your take off. That lateral stability is well...dismal for the first few revolutions. If you are that 'shaky' then theres no way you should be doing that ride. Don't believe me? Watch kris ride

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=MtJZVHkhm-M

Kris handles movements that require many many times the technical ability and yet he has much more control and ease of movement maintained throughout his riding.

Think about how much experience Kris has developed over his years (not sure but think its around 20 now??) of unicycling coupled with his natural ability, which im sorry to say far surpasses yours.

Unfortunately it runs deeper than this:

I just don't really like the type of riding thats like... all risk and not all that much skill. my least favorite part of Universe 2 is when that one guy is hopping by the edge of that cliff. The scenery is nice, but thats about it and i think it kind of gives people the wrong idea about unicycling. they view it as a simple sport for clowns, and this just shows that its all about entertaining others and theres no real skill to it its just a risk contest.

Thank you for expressing this, i would like to ad a few things. Unicycling isn't a mainstream sport and it is hard to imagine it will ever blossom to the popularity of everyday sports. So for now, the image of the sport is placed more strongly on those who DO participate, are seen in public, make videos and post them on youtube etc. Think about how YOU would like this sport to be represented.

Do you want people to treat us with respect and any form of sensibility and seriousness? Do you want unicycling to be founded on technical skill and its development? Balance? Precision? Agility? Creativity?

Its hard enough to replace the clown image with that of an actual sport. I believe that further misreprensation will only hinder this process and further cloud the minds of the uninformed. I don't treat unicycling as a gimmick or cheap acts of trickery and i don't think anyone else should.

I did it because I can, and I like balancing my life on a knife edge

Here's an idea, why not do the same thing but in complete surety. That is the kind of thing that will earn more respect, being able to do something with complete ease. Ride, ride lots. Get better. Challenge yourself to constantly better your own abilities and always seek to base your training upon skill. You will achieve a much deeper satisfaction rather than the quick fix of the moment.

I enjoy the adrenalin rush of putting my life in the hands of my own skill and walking away alive on the other side

Adrenalin is a dangerous substance if you can't control it. Under periods of extreme stress, the body and mind act in some weird ways. The stress isn't the "single mum working two jobs" kind, its more the "argh big animals trying to eat me" kind that has been imbedded in our instinct over millions of years of evolution and was a necessary part of self preservation. Its easy to lose your mental resolve and rationality and much harder to keep a clear head. Try to keep a clear and level head, it has the handy side effect of keeping you alive for longer.

At the end of the day, your are the only one who really has a feel for the situation. None of us know exactly how good you are, how you are feeling at the time. Its up to make your own decisions :)

[DustinSchaap]

...
according to your signature you'd do it backwards though..

[secretdragonfire]

I am really tired of all you young boys analyzing the situation....you are all still kids...when you get to my age and can still pull off half the shit I do then I will be impressed...till then if you want your five cents worth then get on the wall and do it yourself...if you have the balls to do it!!

nuff said

[UniDudeDX]

and how old are you if we are all kiddies.

[WOFT]

He is 31.

[MuniAddict]

He is 31.Wow, that's old! :p

[DustinSchaap]

I am really tired of all you young boys analyzing the situation....you are all still kids...when you get to my age and can still pull off half the shit I do then I will be impressed...till then if you want your five cents worth then get on the wall and do it yourself...if you have the balls to do it!!

nuff said
I felt bad about being the first to post something negative. Thanks for making me feel better. You are easily offended, if you posted a video of yourself going 'GREATEST UNISPIN EVER' I'd expect a smooth 900 unispin in the least, same with an Extreme Uni Wall Ride, maybe we were expecting too much. I've seen older riders pull off gnarlier stuff, but you know what, you're great. I hope that when I'm your age I have the same mad wall-riding skilzz as you.

[Linusk]

Actually, this is extreme. I would say that anything that possibly could kill you is extreme. Personally I would'nt dare to do such a thing like you did in this vid. Not because I couldn't do it (I probably could) but the fact that it could kill me would make me not do it. It's really extreme but it's not hard. It takes guts.

[Joseppi]

Whenever an argument like this starts on the forums, it seems like it's just a matter of time before age is presumed to have some relevance in the situation. Why?

Age does not equal experience
Age does not equal skill

I'm not necessarily talking about any particular person, but those are my thoughts about it.

[Joe2005]

dude. caught it. haha
Damn, I need to improve my ninja hacking skills!!!

[peleschramm]

I am required to walk a tightrope between 2 highrise buildings, and believe me that is not for the faint hearted. I want to propose doing it on a uni with the tire and tube taken off and riding on the rim on the tightrope....now that would be an insane stunt. I will keep you guys updated on wether they will consider it and if so I will put the footage on youtube if I can. If anyone has any further comments, then please feel free to email me at....secretdragonfire@gmail.com

Jade Brandhorst
so it seems like you are actually the "public entertainer" style of rider. aka a clown

so since i'm 16, I don't know what I'm talking about? let me ask you something, are you able to treflip? crankflip? wheel walk? do you even know what any of those are at all?

I'm all for you going off and doing things like that. don't post it though as "extreme wall ride". if you really want, you can post it as "riding on a 4 foot wide but technical ledge over a huge drop". I'm sorry, im just tired of people not taking me seriously when I say I'm a unicyclist. I'm serious about that, and it appears that your serious about risking your life for fun, not about unicycling. I'm tired of my friends telling me to join the circus when i'm older.

[JohnnyReggae]

so it seems like you are actually the "public entertainer" style of rider. aka a clown

That's a bit offsides. Because people are entertainers, does not make them a clown. If you ride down the street, a number of people will automatically assume you're a clown, and you just perpetuate that ??

let me ask you something, are you able to treflip? crankflip? wheel walk?

To be quite honest, although I recognise the skill required to do those tricks, I find them extremely boring, and don't see the point in even trying to do them.

You need to remember that people have different areas of interest, yours seems to be in freestyle and street (I could be wrong). Mine is in MUni, and Jade's is in adrenalin rush pushing the limits of his skill.

don't post it though as "extreme wall ride". if you really want, you can post it as "riding on a 4 foot wide but technical ledge over a huge drop"

WTF ?? really ? Telling people what to post their videos as is also offsides. I believe that it was extreme riding on a wall.

I'm tired of my friends telling me to join the circus when i'm older.

You clearly don't like to be called a clown, something you feel comfortable calling other people. ?!?

[UniDudeDX]

Wow, that's old! :p
hahahhahahahahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahhaahhahahahahaha
niceone terry.

[peleschramm]

That's a bit offsides. Because people are entertainers, does not make them a clown. If you ride down the street, a number of people will automatically assume you're a clown, and you just perpetuate that ??



To be quite honest, although I recognise the skill required to do those tricks, I find them extremely boring, and don't see the point in even trying to do them.

You need to remember that people have different areas of interest, yours seems to be in freestyle and street (I could be wrong). Mine is in MUni, and Jade's is in adrenalin rush pushing the limits of his skill.



WTF ?? really ? Telling people what to post their videos as is also offsides. I believe that it was extreme riding on a wall.



You clearly don't like to be called a clown, something you feel comfortable calling other people. ?!?
yeah, reading over what I said, perhaps I was indeed a bit rude and i apologize. if it helps at all, i wrote that after participating in a somewhat stressful conversation.

part of my rudeness, however was because he seemed to think of me as inexperienced just because of my age. by asking him whether or not he knew what these things where I was just showing that age does not affect knowledge or experience in a sport.

And although freestyle, flatland, and street are my main styles of riding, I enjoy basically any style of riding there is (yes that definitely includes MUNI). I may even enjoy riding on that wall. I wouldn't, however put it in one of my videos as an attempt to impress others. but i guess thats just me.

[uniextreme]

I don’t know why everyone is hating on you, the shot was cool, looks like a beautiful place. And for the matter who cares if you [the people who comment] can do it, the point is he did it and filmed it for our enjoyment. How would you like it if when you posted a video the only comments were “That’s not extreme I can do that,” exactly. So for the effort of pushing yourself and allowing us to enjoy it I give you your props well deserved.

[JohnnyReggae]

yeah, reading over what I said, perhaps I was indeed a bit rude and i apologize. if it helps at all, i wrote that after participating in a somewhat stressful conversation.

part of my rudeness, however was because he seemed to think of me as inexperienced just because of my age. by asking him whether or not he knew what these things where I was just showing that age does not affect knowledge or experience in a sport.

And although freestyle, flatland, and street are my main styles of riding, I enjoy basically any style of riding there is (yes that definitely includes MUNI). I may even enjoy riding on that wall. I wouldn't, however put it in one of my videos as an attempt to impress others. but i guess thats just me.

Sure, no worries. I can understand how you would have been upset by the age comment. It's the idea of not being taken seriously. On the other hand however in Jade's defense he is someone who takes things seriously particularly when wanting to do what he did. Perhaps you could try understand how he would become upset when people less than half his age are saying, "what a lot of c***, I can do that", when in fact it was quite dangerous.

He is also one of the comedians in the group I ride with and is continuously cracking jokes. He certainly lives life to the full, and I suspect that he will keep pushing his own boundaries no matter what you or anyone says.

[secretdragonfire]

After reading all the comments over the last few days maybe there are a few things I should clear up. I was a show performer, and have performed around the world. I am a comfortable 5 ball juggler and have qualified 7 balls too. I also perform with fire in juggling poi and fire breathing, and according to my performing peers, have blown a flame that exceeds the current world record, but cant be botherd to submit the pic. I also do tightrope and flying trapeze. I walk the globe and juggle knives, and not just the blunt show ones either. I was a sponserd skateboarder in my youth and also raced bmx on a pro level. I have trained in martial arts and have fought tournaments also on pro level. I have climbed the sides of 3 storey buildings with my fingertips and no ropes or safety gear whatsoever. I have also ridden 3 meter unicycles. I am currently looking at doing wingsuit flying and base jumping towards the end of the year....so yes I like to push myself to the limit. As for the age thing my apologies to the younger guys, but when I am 40, i will still be doing extreme things because that is who I am. Now if any of you have any ideas for an extreme stunt then please let me know and I will do the calculations to see if its possible, and if it is, I will do it!

[The UniSLAB]

After reading all the comments over the last few days maybe there are a few things I should clear up. I was a show performer, and have performed around the world. I am a comfortable 5 ball juggler and have qualified 7 balls too. I also perform with fire in juggling poi and fire breathing, and according to my performing peers, have blown a flame that exceeds the current world record, but cant be botherd to submit the pic. I also do tightrope and flying trapeze. I walk the globe and juggle knives, and not just the blunt show ones either. I was a sponserd skateboarder in my youth and also raced bmx on a pro level. I have trained in martial arts and have fought tournaments also on pro level. I have climbed the sides of 3 storey buildings with my fingertips and no ropes or safety gear whatsoever. I have also ridden 3 meter unicycles. I am currently looking at doing wingsuit flying and base jumping towards the end of the year....so yes I like to push myself to the limit. As for the age thing my apologies to the younger guys, but when I am 40, i will still be doing extreme things because that is who I am. Now if any of you have any ideas for an extreme stunt then please let me know and I will do the calculations to see if its possible, and if it is, I will do it!

Ok.
Go grind a stairset no smaller than this.
I expect a video in no less than 2 weeks.

24805

[maestro8]

After reading all the comments over the last few days maybe there are a few things I should clear up. I engage in flame wars with teenagers on the Internet.
Dude, no matter how long your e-penis is (and by your account it's mighty long) you're still no better than these "kids" if you stoop to their level.

nickvb123 made a number of great points, and the one that I find most salient is that of skill. One thing that makes riders like Kris Holm and Ryan Atkins stand out is "polish". They've honed their skills until they shine. Ryan doesn't just land big drops, he makes them look effortless.

In your video it appears you don't have much control over your unicycle... how is that supposed to impress others?

If you truly want to be a great performer than you should be great at everything you perform, not just good enough to survive.

[unicycledood]

Yeah I seriously gotta say... its a joke to think you know more about unicycling then the average kid on these forums.

This video reminded me of the guy who jumped up all the steps in the tower in the movie Union.

[jamessd]

In your video it appears you don't have much control over your unicycle.
But in his defence, the idea of a unicycle performance is that it's made to look slighter harder than it is, for entertainment - but I'm not going to say if the wobbling was intentional or not.

[peleschramm]

After reading all the comments over the last few days maybe there are a few things I should clear up. I was a show performer, and have performed around the world. I am a comfortable 5 ball juggler and have qualified 7 balls too. I also perform with fire in juggling poi and fire breathing, and according to my performing peers, have blown a flame that exceeds the current world record, but cant be botherd to submit the pic. I also do tightrope and flying trapeze. I walk the globe and juggle knives, and not just the blunt show ones either. I was a sponserd skateboarder in my youth and also raced bmx on a pro level. I have trained in martial arts and have fought tournaments also on pro level. I have climbed the sides of 3 storey buildings with my fingertips and no ropes or safety gear whatsoever. I have also ridden 3 meter unicycles. I am currently looking at doing wingsuit flying and base jumping towards the end of the year....so yes I like to push myself to the limit. As for the age thing my apologies to the younger guys, but when I am 40, i will still be doing extreme things because that is who I am. Now if any of you have any ideas for an extreme stunt then please let me know and I will do the calculations to see if its possible, and if it is, I will do it!
And I was the real writer of the entire Star Wars series, and I've won a gold medal in the olympics for figure skating, soccer, and the 1400m swim.
honestly

Really though, this is an impressive list of things done in a lifetime. the question is, how much of this is actually true? No, I am not calling you a liar, but I must say all this is quite hard to believe. If it is in fact true, then congratulations on your vast amount of success.

Now, I have a better idea for the tightrope between the 2 buildings. You must cartwheel all the way across in!:p How about that? Are you up for the challenge? it seems like it would be no problem for you.

[JohnnyReggae]

I must say that I am quite surprised/disgusted at the fickleness of a number of people on the forum. Although I would like to assume that the younger generatation would approach things with a level of maturity, there are a few that challenge that assumption.

[Dr_Juz]

I think this whole age and skill argument has gone way to far!

Everyone needs to get off their high horses/ego trips and Chill out! Show some respect towards each other and keep the peace for the great good of the Community.... As a new comer to this forum, this particular thread has already made me ask myself if i really want to be a part of this community???

Take some time to read this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community and remeber what we are all here for.

i quite liked this theory of the different stages of a community by some guy named Peck:

1. Pseudo-community: Where participants are "nice with each other", playing-safe, and presenting what they feel is the most favourable sides of their personalities.
2. Chaos: When people move beyond the inauthenticity of pseudo-community and feel safe enough to present their "shadow" selves. This stage places great demands upon the facilitator for greater leadership and organisation, but Peck believes that "organisations are not communities", and this pressure should be resisted.
3. Emptiness: This stage moves beyond the attempts to fix, heal and convert of the chaos stage, when all people become capable of acknowledging their own woundedness and brokenness, common to us all as human beings. Out of this emptiness comes
4. True community: the process of deep respect and true listening for the needs of the other people in this community. This stage Peck believes can only be described as "glory" and reflects a deep yearning in every human soul for compassionate understanding from one's fellows

peace and respect ... the world needs more of this!

[amanda.gallacher]

lol

[Dr_Juz]

:-)

i was hoping Peck's theory would put a smile on someones face and break the testosterone levels in here!

[amanda.gallacher]

I was lol'ing at the whole thread.

[thejdw]

http://www.pcw.gr/uploads/phantom/lol%20keyboard.jpg

[wickedbob]

Just like juggling fire impressive to those with little knowleage, apears dangerous, but is neither of those at all. Serisouly, if it was as dangerous as you said that would be just stupid why takea big risk at something that takes little skill? If I died riding my uni I owuld want it to be pushing the limits of my skill not preforming a beginners task is hprrible conditions.

[Jerrick]

Should I go make a thread to rip on Kris Holm now?

That guy rode on bridges. What a Dumbass!

[unicycledood]

Taking risks is awesome, I disagree with the people that say its silly to do something that could get you killed. Its just fun! Toooooo much fun.