Presidential race, 2008

[cowsrutterlysexy]

Who is you nominee for the best candidate, and why do you think so? I'm wondering if there are more democratic unicyclists than republicans.

[UniTyler]

Go Obama!

He's determined, original, and progressive. He is religious but he doesn't let it affect his politics. He may be "inexperienced," but look at the experience Cheney had, for example, and his decisions made in the past few years. Obama seems pretty determined to bring change to America, and possibly recover our dwindling reputation. We need that.

[Goats_On_Unicycles]

I'm with Tyler. Obama isn't really the best in my book though. He's got a chance of being elected though which is important.
But I'm not a dimmycrat. I don't really like dimmycrats much actually. They're too conservative!!
I just support whoever I think is a good candidate...

[maestro8]

I don't really like dimmycrats much actually. They're too conservative!!
And what ever happened to "conservatives"? I'd be curious to see who, in Washington, actually remembers what their party's platform is.

[UniTyler]

I'm with Tyler. Obama isn't really the best in my book though. He's got a chance of being elected though which is important.
But I'm not a dimmycrat. I don't really like dimmycrats much actually. They're too conservative!!
I just support whoever I think is a good candidate...

I agree. Hillary is definitely a neo-dimmycrat. Quite conservative, really. I like Edwards and Obama lots, and I love how Hillary lost last night's caucus after spending significantly more than the other candidates. :p

I was surprised at Ron Paul's low numbers - I thought he was a decent Republican. I'm curious about the preferred candidate of Republican unicyclists. Anybody? Anybody? Beuler?

[_Ground_Zero_]

Ron Paul SHOULD win...but he won't...unfortunatley...


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[Buddy]

Ron Paul SHOULD win...


+1

[forrestunifreak]

Fred Thompson.

[harper]

JC is the ONLY main man. There can be no other.

[captainkrunk61]

Fred Thompson...or Ron Paul

I'm not a big fan of Huckabee, nor of Romney either.

[yoopers]

I will write myself in while in the booth. My platform supports the construction of Super Wal-Mart chicken tender only stands across America.

My only issue is that we have to put up with the next eleven months if incessant political advertising on TV, yard signs, etc. etc. etc. etc. and so on, and so on, ad nauseum, ad nauseum, ad nauseum. It really gets to be overwhelming.

[habbywall]

Obama seems pretty determined to bring change to America, and possibly recover our dwindling reputation. We need that.

I would hope so.

As for Ron Paul, low numbers happen when no TV stations choose to show any coverage about you.


My only issue is that we have to put up with the next eleven months if incessant political advertising on TV, yard signs, etc. etc. etc. etc. and so on, and so on, ad nauseum, ad nauseum, ad nauseum. It really gets to be overwhelming.

Not to mention them cutting into the middle of my tv show by turning off the shows volume to play some stupid newsish sounding loop so I could read who the projected winner of the Iowa Caucus is.
I don't live in Iowa, I don't care who wins their, why would I care who they think wins?
It really pisses me off.

[Gilby]

Ron Paul SHOULD win...but he won't...unfortunatley...Why won't he? He has more money in the bank than any other republican (which means he can advertise), except for Romney who loans himself money. He has done well in the polls, considering who they are polling (they poll people with landlines and who were Republicans last time around... ie, the opposite of those who support RP). He did good in Iowa considering that the demographic there is being a beneficiary of farm subsidies and they have a strong religious crowd. We'll start to see more when Wyoming, NH, SC, and Nevada have their primaries.

[Unreal-Wheel]

I'm pretty happy that Obama and Huckabee won


If either one of them wins, I'll be happy


But I'd much rather have Obama

[UniBrier]

My only issue is that we have to put up with the next eleven months if incessant political advertising on TV, yard signs, etc. etc. etc. etc. and so on, and so on, ad nauseum, ad nauseum, ad nauseum. It really gets to be overwhelming.I said it before and I'll say it again:

Why are US presidential election years also leap years? We certainly don't need that extra day of campaigning.

[yoopers]

We should choose our political leaders by a good round of indian leg wrestling...one day only.

[Gilby]

They're too conservative!! What's your definition of conservative?

[musketman]

..I think huckleberry should win.

[dudewithasock]

Rizzle Pizzle should win, fo sho.

[UniTyler]

..I think huckleberry should win.

Why's that? The tread creator asked for reasons! :)

[cowsrutterlysexy]

I'm pretty happy that Obama and Huckabee won


If either one of them wins, I'll be happy


But I'd much rather have Obama

Obama is good...but Huckabee?
You've got to be desperate when you call in Chuck Norris to endorse you.
watch this if you don't know what I'm talking about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDUQW8LUMs8

[yoopers]

Obama is good...but Huckabee?
You've got to be desperate when you call in Chuck Norris to endorse you.

To each his own. I kinda like the Huckster. But when it all boils down, they're all politicians.

Is his advertising scheme desperate or smart? I'd say it's pretty creative. One could say the same about Obama and Oprah.

[Gilby]

Obama is good...but Huckabee?

Hay now, they are both pro-war, both pro-tax, and both pro-statist... not much difference, really.

IMO, neither are good.

[musketman]

Why's that? The tread creator asked for reasons! :)


Republican

[James_Potter]

Republican
So by that reasoning you'd be perfectly happy with Ron Paul, correct?

[musketman]

Hucklebuddy sounds about right. Rockybomba is alil different. he likes alot of bling bling IMO.

[Gilby]

Republican
What is a Republican anyways?

It's very sad to see each party slowly conform to something different than what they were created to be. I personally think people need to stick to their principles and change parties if the party's principle changes instead of them going with that party since they assume that's what they are supposed to believe. I know, it all happens slowly and it may be hard for many to notice this shift.

The Democratic Party has its roots in being founded by Thomas Jefferson, but today, it is almost the exact opposite of what Jefferson taught us. If the Democratic Party followed what Jefferson taught, I would be a Democrat. The Republican party is traditionally the party of limited government, and if the party actually followed that, I would be a Republican. It's unfortunate that we have allowed a two party system to work here, as there is no doubt more than two choices out their.

There really is no difference now between either party, other than that one prefers public-private (fascist) policies, and the other prefers public-public (communist) policies. They both want to expand the size of government. They both want to increase their power over us. They both want to use their power to inflict their will on the rest of the world. They both think that they can let us surrender our freedom in exchange for a false sense of security. They both are clueless that their overspending will eventually result in a collapse of the monetary system, which will completely defeat their stated intentions.

Ultimately, I choose freedom and therefore I don't declare a single party to conform to, but in this election, I will declare that my candidate of choice is Ron Paul, because he is the only candidate that knows what the limitations of the federal government are as enumerated in the Constitution (that document and contract that chartered the federal government). He knows that freedom is the result of letting the free market work, letting people govern them self, and that to lead the world, you need to set an example for the rest of the world to follow, instead of starting wars to falsely spread democracy (mob rule).

[Mikefule]

How lucky you are to have a choice. In Pakistan and Kenya, people are fighting and dying for the right to a fair vote for the leader of their own countries.

In the UK, our head of state is hereditary, and our current prime minister was selected and appointed mid-term by members of his own party, without even a nominal opposing candidate. We have a three party system in which it is at least theoretically possible for the party polling the most votes nationally to end up with no representatives at all in parliament.

That said, I'm with Douglas Adams on the theory that anyone who wants political power ought to be barred as unsuitable.;)

A choice between the first woman president and the first black one? A black president of the USA might do wonders for the country's tarnished repudation abroad. But anything has to be be better than the arrogant, inarticulate, primitively superstitious white knuckle alcoholic in charge at the moment.

[dudewithasock]

A choice between the first woman president and the first black one? A black president of the USA might do wonders for the country's tarnished repudation abroad. But anything has to be be better than the arrogant, inarticulate, primitively superstitious white knuckle alcoholic in charge at the moment.

I definitely agree with the black president thing...but as far as having a woman president...do you that would hurt our reputation abroad with many countries that might not view women as being on equal footing with men? I could potentially see other countries thinking of it as even a weakness, perhaps.

[Mikefule]

I definitely agree with the black president thing...but as far as having a woman president...do you that would hurt our reputation abroad with many countries that might not view women as being on equal footing with men? I could potentially see other countries thinking of it as even a weakness, perhaps.

Possibly, but I would not argue against having a woman president for that reason. That would be pandering to mediaeval attitudes that fly in the face of what few "western values" remain intact.

However, on the plus side, I don't think anyone saw Margaret Thatcher* as a weakness, and Angela Merkel seems to get by.


*As an arrogant deranged evil milk-snatching monster, yes, I'll grant you, but not as a weakness!

[johnfoss]

I think it would be fun for everyone, who considers themselves either a Democrat or a Republican, let us know who they would pick from the other party. That is, if the election ended up being just among those candidates, which would you actually vote for?

I am registered as a no-party voter. Annoyingly, this means that by default you don't get to vote in the primary elections because they're supposed to be voted only by the people in those parties. Fortunately there are two parties that allow you to "join up" with them if you're not registered to them. That's the American Independent Party (something like that) and the Democrats. Good for them, so I can vote for Obama, my favorite candidate. I like him because I feel he is much more likely to say what he really thinks rather than what he thinks we want to hear. And because change is what this country needs (as long as it's change back, or change for the better!).

For the Republican side I haven't thought about it that much so I don't have a solid choice, though Huckaby and Romney seem more palateable than most of the others. Though I would *expect* this nation's people to vote strongly Democrat this time around, I kind of assumed they would in 2004. The fact that 50% of this country's voters voted for W. for a second time around, I must remind myself, convinces me that the American electorate can be pretty amazingly dumb. If they could then, they could again this time. At least W. and Cheney aren't available choices!

I don't care about a black president. I don't care about a woman president. These are not important factors to me. Hopefully there won't be too many people who do nothing more than elect a color, or a woman. But then again, I point to the paragraph above.

In general, I'm fairly confident we won't go too far wrong in this next election. Pretty much any of those candidates would be preferrable to the Bush/Cheney team. We need to build this country back into the world leader it once was. Right now we're just a World Cop with ego problems.

[Gilby]

Annoyingly, this means that by default you don't get to vote in the primary elections because they're supposed to be voted only by the people in those parties.

You have until the 21st to sign up in CA.

... Obama, my favorite candidate. I like him because I feel he is much more likely to say what he really thinks rather than what he thinks we want to hear. Ha ha, that's hilarious. Compare his voting record to what he says.

[harper]

...but as far as having a woman president...do you that would hurt our reputation abroad with many countries that might not view women as being on equal footing with men? I could potentially see other countries thinking of it as even a weakness, perhaps.

Violeta Chamorro
Margaret Thatcher
Corazon Aquino
Benazir Bhutto

Those were off the top of my head. A more comprehensive list of "weakness" is here. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_elected_or_appointed_female_heads_of_state)

[dudewithasock]

Violeta Chamorro
Margaret Thatcher
Corazon Aquino
Benazir Bhutto

Those were off the top of my head. A more comprehensive list of "weakness" is here. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_elected_or_appointed_female_heads_of_state)

Don't misunderstand me, I never said female leaders represented any type of weakness, I was just suggesting the possibility that other countries might feel that way.

[harper]

Don't misunderstand me, I never said female leaders represented any type of weakness, I was just suggesting the possibility that other countries might feel that way.

Other countries don't have feelings. They have bad hygiene.

[yoopers]

Hi, Gene!

[uniextreme]

Dennis Kucinich is getting my vote.

[cowsrutterlysexy]

I think it would be fun for everyone, who considers themselves either a Democrat or a Republican, let us know who they would pick from the other party. That is, if the election ended up being just among those candidates, which would you actually vote for?



I agree. I can't vote yet, annoyingly enough, but when I am able to vote I'm going to register as an independeent voter. Political parties tend to change their values faster than, if I can say this without sounding stupic, underwear.

So, even though the democrats would get my vote this election, I must say that if I had to choose a republican, it would be Huckabee, despite the fact I think its rediculous that he is endorsed by Chuck Norris.

[yoopers]

despite the fact I think its rediculous that he is endorsed by Chuck Norris.Why is it so ridiculous? I think it's because it's actually very clever but you don't care for Honest Abe Huckleberry, so everything about him is bad. Therefore, Chuckin' Chuck is ridiculous by association. Just my gut feeling on it.

We should have Chuck and Oprah indian leg wrestle to determine the endorsements.

[cowsrutterlysexy]

We should have Chuck and Oprah indian leg wrestle to determine the endorsements.

That I agree with.

[cHoUza]

As I saw McCain speech in pollclash.com, I feel that we need a change but I strongly believe McCain can do the job. We do not need a president that turns his back to the "National Anthem" or will not say the "Pledge of Allegiance”! McCain gets my vote 100% because he doesn't turn his back on the anthem nor refuses to say the pledge.