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Émile Mathieu-B.
2007-03-06, 03:08 PM
This nimbus trial is bad!

1st. Do not buy at unicycle.com, I buy it in a bike shop, and I buyed it 160$ without taxes (canadien dollars!!!!!) so, do not buy this uni at unicycle.com if you really want to get one.

If you do not have enough money for a KH and you do not want a Torker, take the NIMBUS HOPPLEY, same unicycle as NIMBUS TRIAL with the weak parts replaced by good ones.

2nd. The cranks are evil, the hub too. Already one crank bented and it's winter here! The hub is not broken yet, but I'm feeling it.

3rd. MY seat is already bented, the only good thing on that are the NIMBUS II FRAME and the DX32 WHEEL. If you already got one, get it strong before it brakes and then, if you did not buyed new (seat)/crank/hub, there will be no more KH crank/hub and set in store so you will have to buy other crap thing...

dbell
2007-03-06, 04:45 PM
thanks for the advise
i won't get one

plumsie
2007-03-06, 05:43 PM
Thats odd, I have been abusing the Nimbus trials (2005 model) for the last 2 years and my hub is still straight and my cranks are fine, not even bent and I'm not exactly light.

I think The nimbus trials is a great uni for the price and for a beginner to learn trials on, it is great.

Mine has plenty of scratches and has been taken off loads of 2-3 foot drops and as I said, nothing bent, nothing broken.

Plumsie

brendan
2007-03-06, 06:13 PM
well i think Emile probbaly thought more of the uni than it actually is...

the nimbus trials in not a splined uni, so the cranks and hub are likely to break quite quickly in a trialsy use.

The hoppley however has splined hub and cranks so can hold much better to such abuse.

btw the qu-ax yellow hub and cranks are available on udc if you want to replace those before the KH moment come back in stock.

As for the seat thats weird, cause all the KH type (nimbus gel/koxx seats/KH/qu-ax) well all apart from torker LX/myata and viscout seats have the same base..

so either you broke the handle? or the seatpost? or just the base.

BUt if the base broke it was either abit weak or u went abit too hard on the uni.... either way the KH/qu-ax/torker DX seats are no stronger.

tobbogonist
2007-03-06, 07:33 PM
i think, my friend, you got a dudd..

Or you have mistaken the act of 'riding' with the act of 'bashing the crap out of it with a sledge-hammer'

bungalistic
2007-03-06, 07:58 PM
Doesn't it say in the description "an entry-level trials unicycle" if you throw it about and start doing large drops and landing heavy of course it will bend and break what do you expect, people snap much more expensive uni's doing similar thing (albeit higher and harder).
The nimbus is a perfectly fine uni for what it is designed for. I agree that if you want to seriously get into trials and street uni that you should save money for the qu-ax or a bit more for koxx/KH as it will save money and time in the future.
But to slag the nimbus off that much is unfair and unjust.

Émile Mathieu-B.
2007-03-06, 08:05 PM
Thats odd, I have been abusing the Nimbus trials (2005 model) for the last 2 years and my hub is still straight and my cranks are fine, not even bent and I'm not exactly light.

I think The nimbus trials is a great uni for the price and for a beginner to learn trials on, it is great.

Mine has plenty of scratches and has been taken off loads of 2-3 foot drops and as I said, nothing bent, nothing broken.

Plumsie

That's because you do not do "high" drops. I dropp only like 1m aprox. and the cranks bent.


so either you broke the handle? or the seatpost? or just the base.

BUt if the base broke it was either abit weak or u went abit too hard on the uni.... either way the KH/qu-ax/torker DX seats are no stronger.

Actually, my seat was not that one, but it's approximativly the same quality.


And I'm not rough with my uni! I so care about it lol :p

I'm in the prossec of buying moment kh hub/crank set to replace the WEAK crank/hub that I'm not rough with!

brendan
2007-03-06, 08:11 PM
man dont take it so badly, but 1m drops arent wot the nimbus trials was made for.... so i guess its a shame it happened but its normal...

bungalistic
2007-03-06, 08:20 PM
If you're dropping off 1 metre thats not far off 3 foot. And since when would any beginner buy a uni and think "oh I know i'll go jump off something pretty high straight away".
I originally bought a nimbus and everything was fine until I decided to upgrade as I knew it wouldn't be long until the abuse and general riding wore it out, which it did not long after I sold it to a friend. There is nothing wrong with its frame though and if you're not a fast learner that will give you plenty of time to save up for upgrades to the uni, eventually you'll end up with a pretty strong custom trials, can't be all that bad can it.

Émile Mathieu-B.
2007-03-06, 08:21 PM
I do not take it personal.

I recommend buying the Hoppley instead of Nimbus Trial, that's all

(And those cranks and hub worth 30$ in all so, they worth what they worth!)

Mikeswarbrick
2007-03-06, 10:19 PM
Guys please, most the people who replied are British and an Auslandian person also did.

Both of these countries (Britain and Australia) have a different set-up in the Numbus Trials. We have better cranks and (I think) better hubs, plus a different wheel.

You are comparing two different unicycles together.

Mike

Émile Mathieu-B.
2007-03-06, 11:40 PM
oh, maybe that explained the thing

thanks Mike

I found something, at unicycle.COM, at the bottom of the setup page:

Note: Wheel rated to 10-inch drops for riders weighing 150 pounds or less

ahahah! lol

and at unicycle.CO.UK, it's written that:

Note: Picture shows 2003 model with KH saddle and steel cranks.


that explain everything, I think

saskatchewanian
2007-03-07, 07:38 AM
I nave a nimbus trials and I think it was great for what it is intended to be - a beginner unicycle. I don’t do anything big but after a year my crank/hub interface started to get sloppy. I played $180 (CAN) so it wasn’t a huge investment and provided me with a new pastime. You are absolutely right that the rim and frame are the best parts of the unibut for $160-180 what can you expect eh? I have replaced the seat, seat post, petals and crank arms. I am planning on replacing the hub with something splined. Not so bad for a first uni but not for experienced riders.

rogeratunicycledotcom
2007-03-07, 10:19 PM
OK lets get some facts.

The Nimbus brand is a Unicycle.com product.

The Nimbus Trials sold in all the Unicycle.com's are the same. The design has changed slightly since their introduction 5 years ago thnough.

The Nimbus Trials has the latest generation KH saddle, it will be as strong (or weak) as any other KH saddle.

The Nimbus Trials does not have a DX32 rim. Well I should clarify, it has not had a DX32 rim for the last 4 years.

The hub as fitted to the Nimbus Trials is the wide flange CrMo hub and these have a very good reputation for NOT breaking. This is a beginners trials unicycle, certainly not suitable for 1m drop offs. Although this being said I do this regularly on mine and it does not fail, it is a technique thing though.

Émile, are you sure you have a Nimbus Trials Unicycle? there are copies out there and they are not of the same quality. They do have DX32 rims.... they also do not have CrMo hubs, decent cranks, pedals or Nimbus Gel saddles.

Roger

Émile Mathieu-B.
2007-03-07, 11:07 PM
Maybe it's a copy, I got Exactly this one (http://www.ajata.de/ratshop/offerdetails.php?id_offer=168&from=offers), but, I do not see difference, only the seat and pedals.... :

rogeratunicycledotcom
2007-03-07, 11:20 PM
Yes a very bad copy as well. I will have a word with Ajata about this, they are claiming it is a Nimbus fork and it is not. This is nothing like the quality of a Nimbus.


Roger

rogeratunicycledotcom
2007-03-07, 11:31 PM
Maybe it's a copy, I got Exactly this one (http://www.ajata.de/ratshop/offerdetails.php?id_offer=168&from=offers), but, I do not see difference, only the seat and pedals.... :

Sorry I did not go through the differences with you:
Saddle is NOT a KH saddle, not the Nimbus Gel, it one of the cheapest and poorest saddles on the market.
Seatpost is a thin wall 22.2 seatpost, not even the UDC reinforced 22.2 seatpost... the Nimbus comes with 25.4
Frame, you will not know unless you put the 2 next to each other but you can see the difference when you do... simply quality.
Hub... yours is standard non hardened steel and is narrow flange, the Nimbus is a wide flange and CrMo. 5 times harder!
Spokes, yours are "rustless", Nimbus are stainless
Crank, yours are cheap standard steel cranks, Nimbus are quality Billet aluminium.
Rim, yours is a non eyeletted dx32, Nimbus is the same as the 06 KH with it's hardened deep section aluminium and eyelettes.
Tyre, yours is Luna, Nimbus is Maxxis.
Pedals, Yours comes with the cheap indoor pedals, the Nimbus comes with high quality DX style aluminium pedals with steel pin inserts.
Even down to the smaller details... the crank bolts on the Nimbus are nice allan key bolts.


Basically everything on the Ajata model is scrimped on.


Roger

Émile Mathieu-B.
2007-03-08, 01:14 AM
Sorry I did not go through the differences with you:
Saddle is NOT a KH saddle, not the Nimbus Gel, it one of the cheapest and poorest saddles on the market.

it says it is a cionlli saddle

Seatpost is a thin wall 22.2 seatpost, not even the UDC reinforced 22.2 seatpost... the Nimbus comes with 25.4
Frame, you will not know unless you put the 2 next to each other but you can see the difference when you do... simply quality.

Please, can you tell me how can you know that please?

Hub... yours is standard non hardened steel and is narrow flange, the Nimbus is a wide flange and CrMo. 5 times harder!
Spokes, yours are "rustless", Nimbus are stainless
Crank, yours are cheap standard steel cranks, Nimbus are quality Billet aluminium.
Rim, yours is a non eyeletted dx32, Nimbus is the same as the 06 KH with it's hardened deep section aluminium and eyelettes.

What is the difference ?

Tyre, yours is Luna, Nimbus is Maxxis.

Somme people prefer Luna tires

Pedals, Yours comes with the cheap indoor pedals, the Nimbus comes with high quality DX style aluminium pedals with steel pin inserts.

Even down to the smaller details... the crank bolts on the Nimbus are nice allan key bolts.


Basically everything on the Ajata model is scrimped on.


Roger

Thanks for answering to my question Roger :D

tobbogonist
2007-03-08, 04:08 AM
Roger, a quick question.

with that 'mock' nimbus uni, comparing to a used nimbus trials, which one would be a safer buy?

I was selling my old nimbus trials to a young lad and he opted to buy the same uni as Émile Mathieu-B, instead of the the used nimbus trials. I believe he should have gone with the nimbus but he wanted the 'Einsteiger Trials 20"'. i believe this is going to come back to bite him on the behind. this is not really a question anymore :( Bollocks..

rogeratunicycledotcom
2007-03-08, 08:40 AM
Émile,

Basically you have slagged off the wrong product in this review. Could you please admit that the title you placed on this thread is wrong, you are not reviewing a Nimbus Trials but a Nimbus Trials copy.

It is like buying a Rolex copy down the market that stops working the next day then saying that all Rolexes are crap because of this.

Unicycle.com does a lot of work to produce good products that are appropriate for the market. The Nimbus trials is a good beginners product. The product you have got, is a cheap crap copy.

To answer your questions about your own unicycle.
Cionlli are a competitor of Velo in Taiwan, Velo make KH saddles.
Your unicycle was made by a company called Bor Yeah and I know the seat post they use are the lightweight non reinforced ones.
As for the difference between your wheel set and a Nimbus Wheel set... about a $100!

Roger

sp4rky-m4rky
2007-03-08, 09:13 AM
the nimbus trials in not a splined uni, so the cranks and hub are likely to break quite quickly in a trialsy use.

my trials uni doesnt have a splined hub the hub it came with broke straigt away but ibought the cromo square tapered hub from UDC for about £30 and i have landed many 4or 5 ft drops and landed loads of jumps down 5 sets and my hub and cranks are still fine

brendan
2007-03-08, 06:52 PM
ahaha this all cleared up :D i feel silly for not noting the DX32 wasnt even on the nimbus trials.

I've seen sam do a 2m ish drop from a bus shelter on a nimbus trials, and he didnt land it, and i think the rim buckled a bit (but his spokes probably ha dnever been tightened lol) but the cranks and hub were fine lol.

btw nice one rodger on spotting the difference, yet another enigma solved lol

Émile Mathieu-B.
2007-03-09, 03:44 PM
Émile,

Basically you have slagged off the wrong product in this review. Could you please admit that the title you placed on this thread is wrong, you are not reviewing a Nimbus Trials but a Nimbus Trials copy.

It is like buying a Rolex copy down the market that stops working the next day then saying that all Rolexes are crap because of this.

Unicycle.com does a lot of work to produce good products that are appropriate for the market. The Nimbus trials is a good beginners product. The product you have got, is a cheap crap copy.

To answer your questions about your own unicycle.
Cionlli are a competitor of Velo in Taiwan, Velo make KH saddles.
Your unicycle was made by a company called Bor Yeah and I know the seat post they use are the lightweight non reinforced ones.
As for the difference between your wheel set and a Nimbus Wheel set... about a $100!

Roger

Thanks for answering my question

And I would certainely change my topic, to COPY of nimbus trials on ajata.de but, I cannot edit my first post, but I admit it,Nimbus Trials Rocks, nimbus trial copy is bad.

And you said, it was not a NIMBUS II frame, so now I'm not sure anymore on the question about: will MOMENT KH 2007 hub/cranks will fit on my frame...

If you can, please, can you tell me, if you think it would match on my copy frame.

Thanks

Joe2005
2007-03-09, 04:38 PM
I belive the moment hub will fit but it might just be worthwhile to get a hoppley or something.

rogeratunicycledotcom
2007-03-09, 04:45 PM
There is one batch of Nimbus II frames that the 42mm bearings are tight on but this was some time ago. The vast majority of them do fit the 42mm bearings without a problem.

I can not say for certain about the Ajata frame but when I have checked them they do tend to have the looser cups that do fit the bigger bearings in.

Roger

Émile Mathieu-B.
2007-03-09, 07:20 PM
Thanks you Roger

And Joe, I'm buying only Cranks/Hub set because I do not have enough money to buy a complete unicycle, if I would have enough money I would buy a KH, but it's not my case, nto for the moement I wich...

rogeratunicycledotcom
2007-03-09, 08:44 PM
You should be able to reuse the spokes, there is almost no difference between these hubs in length. Although it will be better if you build it with new spokes. You will not be able to use the KH ones though they are too short as they are designed for a deeper rim.

Roger

Émile Mathieu-B.
2007-03-09, 10:21 PM
Thanks a lot Roger for this info :D