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skrobo
2007-01-18, 04:39 AM
here it is, theres really not much to it.
sorry I couldn't say more, and there is no sound because i figured it would only be distracting, and annoying if you watch it several times.
LaLaLINKAGE (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1834486541218155802)

something I didn't mention in the tutorial is the whole throwing your arm in the air, I noticed that my video clips of me doing 3-4 feet gaps have little arm movement. It gradually changed to the almost full extension I do now.

I think thats it. if you have any questions feel free to ask, I will try to help you w/ them.

practice is a major player as well, but it also helps to daydream about it and its specifics (I know I know...)

Borgschulze
2007-01-18, 05:52 AM
I can rolling hop about 6 Inches.

skrobo
2007-01-18, 02:00 PM
i forgot... its for distance, not ups.

iridemymuni
2007-01-18, 02:02 PM
i can rolling up about 6 inches too, and maybe about 3-4 feet long.

Borgschulze
2007-01-18, 02:36 PM
i forgot... its for distance, not ups.
Yeah... that's what I was talking about.

Triball
2007-01-18, 03:09 PM
So, if you're jumping onto a curb or something. How can you calculate, so you get the perfect crank position for a jump? Do you get the feeling for it when trying?

skrobo
2007-01-18, 03:17 PM
So, if you're jumping onto a curb or something. How can you calculate, so you get the perfect crank position for a jump? Do you get the feeling for it when trying?
wellll... if you are on a 20" and you can jump over 5' and up a curb it is never a problem because that is how far your cranks turn in one revolution
other than that you get the feel for it eventually.

MuniAddict
2007-01-18, 04:37 PM
If you're gonna try a rolling hop, what's wrong with lining up your cranks first then backing the uni up to your start point? I usually ride up to the launch point, get my cranks right with a setup hop or two, then ride backwards a ways, then haul ass toward the launch point.:D

Triball
2007-01-18, 06:50 PM
I haven't tried your method, it sounds good. I'll try it as soon as I learn to go backwards:D
Oh, Im on a 24"

Joe2005
2007-01-18, 07:08 PM
So how do you rolling hop for height?

gordito8me
2007-01-18, 10:32 PM
I haven't tried your method, it sounds good. I'll try it as soon as I learn to go backwards:D
Oh, Im on a 24"

when it comes to distance hopping I think a 24 is much better

skrobo
2007-01-18, 11:35 PM
If you're gonna try a rolling hop, what's wrong with lining up your cranks first then backing the uni up to your start point? I usually ride up to the launch point, get my cranks right with a setup hop or two, then ride backwards a ways, then haul ass toward the launch point.:D
that looks lame!
haha, JK
thats what I do most of the time, but I left it to people to decide wheter to do that or not. I have a friend that absolutely refuses to do that.

and a 24 is much better for long hops(and crank grabs). I have jumped farther on a 24(ultraheavy qu-ax) than I ever have on my trials that I always ride.

edit: there is one problem w/ a 24 for long jumps, and that is the fact that is is SO much harder to stop it.

headstone
2007-01-18, 11:59 PM
Well if you're riding muni it's way cooler to just rip it.

Like Kris Holm jumps from vertical pedals over huge ditches without even thinking about. It's just something else to learn.

skrobo
2007-01-19, 12:05 AM
Well if you're riding muni it's way cooler to just rip it.

Like Kris Holm jumps from vertical pedals over huge ditches without even thinking about. It's just something else to learn.
lol
vertical pedals ... no
you can get good at lining it up perfectly if you just get used to it, i can tell wheter or not its going to line up when I am about 20 feet away.

maximus unius
2007-01-19, 01:20 AM
Yeah, it's not hard to gauge a few revolutions, but after like 3-4 it gets pretty hard.

skrobo
2007-01-19, 01:53 AM
Yeah, it's not hard to gauge a few revolutions, but after like 3-4 it gets pretty hard.
yeah, when Im flying up to a gap that I'm about to attempt, I can tell when I get about 3 1/2 pedal revs awayand if I can't hit it, i try to turn and rolling sidehop it(usually I can't, but im getting there w/ my sidehops)

Spencer Hochberg
2007-01-19, 05:51 AM
lol
vertical pedals ... no
you can get good at lining it up perfectly if you just get used to it, i can tell wheter or not its going to line up when I am about 20 feet away.
I think a lot of muni riders can roll hop from any crank position. Its useful in muni becasue you don't get to line everything up.

csuko
2007-01-19, 07:16 AM
So how do you rolling hop for height?

This (http://www.unicyclist.com/index.php?page=gallery&g2_itemId=129462&g2_imageViewsIndex=1&g2_GALLERYSID=c1f46ac140382d14bd08a7144671a109) is probably the best tutorial for high rolling hops.

DustinSchaap
2007-01-21, 10:18 AM
I would've liked to see some bigger gaps and mentions of folding, freezing a screen to show how much you fold in a huge rolling gap, when I notice myself doing 1.80m I'm nearly in a tiregrab position.

skrobo
2007-01-22, 11:24 PM
I would've liked to see some bigger gaps and mentions of folding, freezing a screen to show how much you fold in a huge rolling gap, when I notice myself doing 1.80m I'm nearly in a tiregrab position.
i think that happens naturally, but thanks for the insight.

folding is a fact of life
i fold my Creepy crawler all the time on my nimbus rim.

kapoute
2007-01-23, 12:18 AM
Im wondering if this video helped someone...

skrobo
2007-01-23, 12:28 AM
Im wondering if this video helped someone...

from the other thread.

good helped some

Evan Byrne
2007-01-23, 11:09 PM
As like most tips on tricks, it was stating the obvious. I think anyone practicing gaps for a while would have tried those things.

skrobo
2007-01-23, 11:36 PM
As like most tips on tricks, it was stating the obvious. I think anyone practicing gaps for a while would have tried those things.
yeah, but i don't see many people at all landing sideways like i do, but then again, that causes a lot of tires to fold.

Evan Byrne
2007-01-24, 10:08 AM
yeah, but i don't see many people at all landing sideways like i do, but then again, that causes a lot of tires to fold.


Doesnt matter, anyone with a resonable crank length wont slip.

skrobo
2007-01-24, 10:30 PM
Doesnt matter, anyone with a resonable crank length wont slip.
lol
i can't control mine sometimes if I land straight, no matter what the uni is like.

Evan Byrne
2007-01-24, 10:37 PM
lol
i can't control mine sometimes if I land straight, no matter what the uni is like.



Then why are you making a tutorial?

skrobo
2007-01-24, 10:59 PM
Then why are you making a tutorial?
because I can :)
and because I know how to jump, and i know a way to land that works well.

smcmorrow
2007-01-25, 02:55 AM
I think another integral part of the rolling hop is tucking the wheel so it lands in front of you. This will help you get farther, and will also keep you from falling forwards at the landing. The tutorial was good, but I think the titles were a little fast, and it would have been better if you had narrarated it, like in Shaun's crankflip tutorial. Good work though.

skrobo
2007-01-25, 03:27 AM
I think another integral part of the rolling hop is tucking the wheel so it lands in front of you. This will help you get farther, and will also keep you from falling forwards at the landing. The tutorial was good, but I think the titles were a little fast, and it would have been better if you had narrarated it, like in Shaun's crankflip tutorial. Good work though.
lol
thats what i forgot, i knew i forgot something important! thank you :)
i didn't want to do narrartion for many reasons.

president_luke
2007-01-25, 03:54 AM
I think landing sideways is pretty stupid. It just makes the jump look sketchy.

skrobo
2007-01-25, 04:09 AM
I think landing sideways is pretty stupid. It just makes the jump look sketchy.
it looks way better than having to slow down after you hit the ground, which you do a lot of times, especially if you are landing on a surface level w/ the takeoff surface.