LASIK eye procedure

[DigitalDave]

Anyone have experiences recently ...?

Going in for eval Jan 2
at Schaumburg office
scheduled with Dr Horn

http://lasikplus.com (http://www.lasikplus.com)

Please give results please ...

I would like informative responses

[Unimichael]

Well, at one point I would have considered it, but I was doing some service work in an office that does the procedure. I noticed that most people being scheduled for the procedure were given Sunday appointments.
I thought it was unusual for any doctor's office to be open on Sunday, and was told they only do that procedure on Sundays, because there are less heavy trucks and tractor- trailers on the road in front of the office on Sundays!
Wiggles the laser, I suspect:eek:

[Borgschulze]

My brother had Laser Eye Surgery done. Mostly because he's too much of a baby to wear glasses.. he's clumsy and breaks things.

He has no complaints, just have fun not being able to see for a day or two after you get it done.

[Jerrick]

I haven't had it done, nor know of anyone who has had it done.

Ill just say this, Lasik is one cool little operation to watch one tv! :D

[DigitalDave]

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[carsonpalooza]

My mom had it a couple years ago. The procedure was fast and from what she said didn't really hurt. She had to wear sunglasses for a period after it but see had a big improvement in her vision. It's more effective when you get it done at a younger age so I'll probably end up getting it done to when I'm in my 20s.

[Jerrick]

Touchy (http://www.fda.gov/cdrh/LASIK/) are (http://www.allaboutvision.com/visionsurgery/) we (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LASIK)? :rolleyes:

[Joe2005]

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How come?

[Joe2005]

LOL couldn't resit. My dad had it a couple years ago went well the only thing is that they set his vision for distance i.e. he can see just fine but he needs reading glasses.

[milk]

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Well that was subtle. But, yeh, don't have it done - I saw this documentary about it going wrong and this guy feeling the laser ripping through his eye - he lost sight permanently and it was all very bad. :eek:

[DigitalDave]

Figures all the immature brats in this forum would be the only replies I receive

Let me know when you kiddies are willing to drop 4 thousand dollars for a life changing event.

Maybe then, you would understand

[James_Potter]

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okay I won't post here then

[DigitalDave]

I've reported every one of you little punks to Gilby.

My hope is to have this thread locked.

And I probably wont be back here again.

I hope you all get coal for Christmas from your mommies and daddies

[Gilby]

I've reported every one of you little punks to Gibly.

Gee, thanks, but you can manually add each person to your ignore list. No need for me to do that for you.

[forrestunifreak]

Man, who cares? Would you rather have zero replys to this thread, then a bunch of replys that aren't perfect?

[Borgschulze]

I've reported every one of you little punks to Gilby.

My hope is to have this thread locked.

And I probably wont be back here again.

I hope you all get coal for Christmas from your mommies and daddies
What kind of information are you expecting?

Oh, when he cuts into your eye with the laser you shouldn't move. Disregard the caution sign that says Power outages lead to eye loss.

The only responses you're going to get are, "Yeah, it went well" or "It went horribly wrong for me, how am I on a computer telling you this?"

[DigitalDave]

You would care ...

IF:

1. You were born blind.
2. You had eye surgury at the age of 3 to straighten eye muscles.
3. You had to live with getting new glasses every 2 years for 46 years since the age of 4.
4. You could not see without glasses, even after 40 years of correction.
5. You had save forever to afford the surgery.

I could go on ...

Let me know when you go blind ... maybe then you might be in my shoes

[habbywall]

Okay, sounds like you have an interesting situation, I hope you don't report me, but honestly I don't think anyone has had your situation, therefore none of us will be able to help you, maybe you can find an eye doctors forum somewhere though.
Good luck with whatever you decide to do.

You have saved up 4k dollars and you are asking us for advice?

[DigitalDave]

Anyone have experiences recently ...?

Simple enough ...?
It was written in my original post

[unicycle6869]

OK Dave, here's my experience. I had it done 2 years ago and LOVE it and think it's the best thing ever and would recommend it to everyone. It is well worth the cost and pays for itself over time (glasses, contacts, solution, etc..). It was pretty much painless and the only thing I didn't like was the burning smell (like burnt hair) and then when the suction goes on your eye and you loose vision for a couple seconds. I went home and slept after the surgery and woke up with perfect vision and no pain. Your eyes will be dry for the first month so you use drops but after that they should be good. My eyes are a little more sensitive to light now but not too bad. Hope this helps...

[milk]

Well, I'm sorry I intruded in your little thread. I did actually post information that I thought was relevant, and got called an 'immature brat' for it. If you're like this to everyone, your eye surgeon will probably gouge your eyes out.

[BillyTheMountain]

There is a great Simpsons episode that flashes 20 years into the future, and you see the outcome of LASIX on Ned FLanders 20 years later.

I have a buddy whose doctor did not calibrate the machine correctly, so his vision is a bit worse in his best eye.

I think it's important to check out the specific doctor, not just the doctor's own web page. I have a feeling you dont want any bargain basement docs, and you may want to travel to a bigger city, instead of having it done in your own po-dunk town. Why take chances with a doctor who is in lala land?

[Jerrick]

If by linking to three great sites, the first one probably the best on the issue, with tons of info that would answer all your questions, and things you probably haven't even thought or knew aobut it before, is being a little punk, then I am damn proud to be a 'little punk'.

[Borgschulze]

You would care ...

IF:

1. You were born blind.
2. You had eye surgury at the age of 3 to straighten eye muscles.
3. You had to live with getting new glasses every 2 years for 46 years since the age of 4.
4. You could not see without glasses, even after 40 years of correction.
5. You had save forever to afford the surgery.

I could go on ...

Let me know when you go blind ... maybe then you might be in my shoes
1. You were born blind.

I was born with astigmatism.

3. You had to live with getting new glasses every 2 years for 46 years since the age of 4.

This one applies to me somewhat, except since I was 7, and for 10 years.

5. You had save forever to afford the surgery.

Yeah, I probably would have to.

[Naomi]

LOL couldn't resit. My dad had it a couple years ago went well the only thing is that they set his vision for distance i.e. he can see just fine but he needs reading glasses.


Too many people see it as a cure all. Certainly it can change the effective lens shape, and hence focusable distances, but I don't think it can compensate for other ageing problems.
I read there is a tendency to go long sighted at about 40-45, and I guess this possibly can be fixed. But also I understand the ability to change focus is reduced at about the same age, and as this, I believe, is a muscular problem, you will never regain the sight you had as an eighteen year old.

However generally speaking I think most who have the process are happy.

Nao

[thejdw]

I've reported every one of you little punks to Gilby.

My hope is to have this thread locked.

And I probably wont be back here again.

I hope you all get coal for Christmas from your mommies and daddies
Ok why such the harsh reaction? :confused:
The ignor list is there and waiting ;)

[Borgschulze]

Ok why such the harsh reaction? :confused:
The ignor list is there and waiting ;)
He can't see that there is an ignore list, that's why he's getting the surgery I presume.

[thejdw]

He can't see that there is an ignore list, that's why he's getting the surgery I presume.
I would put a lol but If he is being serious it would be rude ;)

[johnfoss]

I hope you don't report me, but honestly I don't think anyone has had your situation, therefore none of us will be able to help you
Speak for yourself. Don't you know *anybody* who wears glasses, who has worn them from a young age? If you don't know as many people in their forties, maybe you should give them the benefit of the doubt?

I have "aging" eyes, and got reading glasses last year. My distance vision is still fine, though not quite what it once was. But I'm the only one in my family that didn't have glasses since the 1970s.

My wife Jacquie has had glasses since she was six months old. You know that had to be a pretty serious vision problem to be obvious before she could talk. When she was little, if her mom wanted her to be quiet, she'd take off her glasses. I don't think she realized at the time that it cut her off from the rest of the world. When she was in first grade she almost ended up going to a school for the blind, but her teacher asked to give her a chance. That was a great teacher, as she remained in regular school and did fine.

So recently she went to see about getting lasik for herself. Unfortunately her vision situation is one that would not get her any meaningful benefits from the procedure; not enough to outweigh the minor risks. So instead she found herself a really cool designer glasses store and got some really cool looking frames!

I think Jacquie's advice for you would be to research your doctors. Don't go by simply whoever's done the most procedures. Though this is a good metric, it's meaningless if it doesn't have a high success/satisfaction rate. Probably the best way to find a good doctor is with a combination of research and personal recommendations from people who have had the procedure.

[spazdude222]

Its supposed to be painless, but hearing it explained makes it sound really painful (to me anyway)

[AnOldCripple]

Its supposed to be painless, but hearing it explained makes it sound really painful (to me anyway)
the normal operation is not suposed to be that painful were they cut the surface of the eye and pell it back but one of my friends is going into the air force and has to get it done were instead of the normal procedure the acually scrape off the top layer of your eye and then do the surgery and then the next for days are very painful as the surface grows back.

[critter]

Anyone have experiences recently ...?

Going in for eval Jan 2
at Schaumburg office
scheduled with Dr Horn

http://lasikplus.com (http://www.lasikplus.com)

Please give results please ...

I would like informative responses
How was your results?

My brother had Laser Eye Surgery done. Mostly because he's too much of a baby to wear glasses.. he's clumsy and breaks things.
ME TOO! lose'm or break'm
Ill just say this, Lasik is one cool little operation to watch one tv! :D Sweet.:D


LOL couldn't resit. My dad had it a couple years ago went well the only thing is that they set his vision for distance i.e. he can see just fine but he needs reading glasses.
I'm getting one eye for distance and the other for reading or close up.

You would care ...

IF:

1. You were born blind.
2. You had eye surgury at the age of 3 to straighten eye muscles.
3. You had to live with getting new glasses every 2 years for 46 years since the age of 4.
4. You could not see without glasses, even after 40 years of correction.
5. You had save forever to afford the surgery.

I could go on ...

Let me know when you go blind ... maybe then you might be in my shoesSorry Brah, that's tough.
I had 20/15 or better all my life. I didn't take it for granted. I'm glad I never had glasses or contacts. 8 years ago the lenses in my eyes gradually starting to get stiff and don't focus like they use too. I would buy drug store reading glasses. I found as my reading glass power would go up(1.25 to 2.25) the weak glasses(1.25) started working for distance.
That means I need bifocals.:eek: So I saw an eye doctor for the 1st time two years ago. He said that I have all ready figured out my own prescription. But now what do I do? I wore contacts for the 1st time couple months ago only to give me a trial look into the future. The future is Lasik in two weeks, Friday.
OK Dave, here's my experience. I had it done 2 years ago and LOVE it and think it's the best thing ever and would recommend it to everyone. It is well worth the cost and pays for itself over time (glasses, contacts, solution, etc..). It was pretty much painless and the only thing I didn't like was the burning smell (like burnt hair) and then when the suction goes on your eye and you loose vision for a couple seconds. I went home and slept after the surgery and woke up with perfect vision and no pain. Your eyes will be dry for the first month so you use drops but after that they should be good. My eyes are a little more sensitive to light now but not too bad. Hope this helps...That's Great! How are they doing?

I have a buddy whose doctor did not calibrate the machine correctly, so his vision is a bit worse in his best eye.scary, I keep an eye on that.



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I read there is a tendency to go long sighted at about 40-45, and I guess this possibly can be fixed. But also I understand the ability to change focus is reduced at about the same age, and as this, I believe, is a muscular problem, you will never regain the sight you had as an eighteen year old.
NaoGood one. That's me.
But I believe the lens isn't as pliable as it was. And that why I have to get one eye for close sight and one for far sight.

Far sight is anything farther than a outreached arm(>3 feet or 1 meter).
My reading eye will be a little fuzzy for distance.
I'm not an eighteen year old.;)


I have "aging" eyes, and got reading glasses last year. My distance vision is still fine, though not quite what it once was. But I'm the only one in my family that didn't have glasses since the 1970s.Save your weak ones(glasses) for TV later. Or are you doing that yet?

I think Jacquie's advice for you would be to research your doctors. Don't go by simply whoever's done the most procedures. Though this is a good metric, it's meaningless if it doesn't have a high success/satisfaction rate. Probably the best way to find a good doctor is with a combination of research and personal recommendations from people who have had the procedure. I feel good about my Doc and her latest up-to-date equipment.

Hopefully, another happy customer.

[johnfoss]

Save your weak ones(glasses) for TV later. Or are you doing that yet?Update: My puppy ate my original, prescription reading glasses. He didn't really eat them, but he ruined them. So I got a pair of inexpensive reading glasses at a store and they've been fine. Only problem is not bringing them to dim restaurants. Vision is still fine at distance, and I can still read (most) things at arm's length.

Let us know how your Lasik goes!

[uni57]

John,

Did you ever get around to reading (http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?p=986361#post986361) the book Relearning to See (http://www.amazon.com/Relearning-See-Improve-Eyesight-Naturally/dp/1556433417/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1236994503&sr=8-1)? It's the book I mentioned in another thread (http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?p=985816#post985816) (where I accidentally wrote an essay in response to a spammer).

[critter]

Update: My puppy ate my original, prescription reading glasses. He didn't really eat them, but he ruined them. So I got a pair of inexpensive reading glasses at a store and they've been fine. Only problem is not bringing them to dim restaurants. Vision is still fine at distance, and I can still read (most) things at arm's length.

Let us know how your Lasik goes!
Don't waste money going to the Dr. Unless you want designer frames.

I have about 10 pairs of cheap glasses from places like sav-a-lot or Dollar stores. Power ranges from 1.25 to 3.0
I need no glasses for Muni or outdoors activities. (unless my uni breaks and I have to look at small parts).
1.25 for Tv, around the house, or to the store.
2.0 to 2.25 computer, newspaper
3.0 bathroom mirror, medicine labels.


John,

Did you ever get around to reading (http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?p=986361#post986361) the book Relearning to See (http://www.amazon.com/Relearning-See-Improve-Eyesight-Naturally/dp/1556433417/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1236994503&sr=8-1)? It's the book I mentioned in another thread (http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?p=985816#post985816) (where I accidentally wrote an essay in response to a spammer).

Anybody have success with the ''relearning to see'' booK?

I don't think it works for:

Presbyopia (Greek word "presbus" (πρέσβυς), meaning "old person") describes the condition where the eye exhibits a progressively diminished ability to focus on near objects with age. Presbyopia's exact mechanisms are not known with certainty, however, the research evidence most strongly supports a loss of elasticity of the crystalline lens although changes in the lens's curvature from continual growth and loss of power of the ciliary muscles (the muscles that bend and straighten the lens) have also been postulated as its cause.


I get lasik on the 1st day of moab muni fest......13 days!

[pdc]

This made me laugh. Guy needs a pen name.

Relearning to See: Improve Your Eyesight -- Naturally! (Paperback)
by Thomas R. "Quack"enbush (Author)

[uni57]

This made me laugh. Guy needs a pen name.

Relearning to See: Improve Your Eyesight -- Naturally! (Paperback)
by Thomas R. "Quack"enbush (Author)Well, the man Dr. William Bates himself is listed on QuackWatch (http://www.quackwatch.org/11Ind/bates.html), so he's in good company!

Yes, Bates got some things wrong. Including how the eye accomodates (focuses). And he goes against the establishment. But I've seen a friend use the techniques and create a huge improvement in his vision. It was temporary, but had he stuck with it for more than 15 minutes, who knows where it would have led. I don't know why he didn't persist. That should have been a huge motivator.

The extrinsic eye muscles squeezing the eye out of shape is the only reasonable explanation for how my eye continues to deform (get longer -- I have myopia). Even my angle of astigmatism changes. Why is my prescription getting stronger and stronger? In other words, how is my eye getting longer and longer well into adulthood? If someone could explain that to me AND give a plausible explanation how my friend could suddenly read the eye chart several lines down from where he previously could, maybe I'll consider that the Bates Method is quackery. But for now, I'm convinced. The Relearning to See book updates the Bates book with improved terminology and other corrections to the techniques (such as DON'T stare into the sun with open eyes).

Your error of refraction is NOT fixed. I read books without my glasses and my vision improves slightly. But when I put my glasses back on and read that same book, I feel a significant strain in my eyes (which isn't there if I read the book with my glasses on the whole time). Corrective lenses lock in your problem and prevent improvement. In fact, improvement is rewarded with blurry vision. Being prescribed corrective lenses is like being told, after spraining your ankle, that you will have to walk with crutches for the rest of your life. The former is never questioned, but the latter would be met with hostility.

[pdc]

Just to be clear. I wasn't judging his ideas one way or the other. It was just the idea of a natural medicine guy going by the name quack.... was funny to me.

[uni57]

Just to be clear. I wasn't judging his ideas one way or the other. It was just the idea of a natural medicine guy going by the name quack.... was funny to me.Oh I know that! I'm sorry. When I proofread my post, I thought about making it clear that I understood you were just refering to his unfortunate name, but I ended up pressing Submit without adding that comment. I started off just making the connection to the QuackWatch site, but ended up going much further. Thanks! Actually, I think it's funny too, except that I cringe every time I tell someone about Tom Quackenbush, because I know what must be flashing through the other person's mind. He is nonetheless the world's leading authority on the work of the "quack" Dr. William Bates of New York.

[unicycle6869]

UPDATE: My eyes are doing great and I can see just as good now as I could after the surgery! Good luck critter! Does that mean you won't be at MOAB?! :(

[johnfoss]

Did you ever get around to reading (http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?p=986361#post986361) the book Relearning to See (http://www.amazon.com/Relearning-See-Improve-Eyesight-Naturally/dp/1556433417/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1236994503&sr=8-1)?I still have it on the shelf in my bathr-- uh, reading room. It's gotten buried by other stuff. I got about 1/3 of the way through without a single mention of the stuff to practice to improve the vision. Almost that whole first 1/3 of the book is in support of why the stuff works, without talking about the stuff. Usually a sign that the stuff doesn't work.

Clearly from the text, it has worked for lots of people, so it should not be disregarded and it sounds like there could be something there for you. Might be one of those things where you just need to learn how to work (or un-work) the correct muscles. I can relax all the (outer) muscles in my body, pretty much, except in my neck area. I have a really hard time there. As for my legs, I'm pretty sure I can turn them off completely. Eyes would take some effort/practice, and continuing practice to make it a natural habit or keep from backsliding.

But I have the Presbyopia, which apparently means the techniques in the book probably won't do anything for me. Reading hints of that also made me lose interest. However I did learn A LOT about how eyes work, and a bunch of information on optics, though some may not be correct. Definitely not time wasted.

For Critter:
Yes, I originally went to the Dr. for a baseline eye test, which I hadn't had in years. And I got some designer frames. :mad: But my 1.50 readers are still doing fine, and a more recent (free) eye test indicated I'm still in the same place. No need for prescription lenses yet, and hopefully not for a while.

ACK! I just read the article on Quackwatch. I think I'll give up on reading the rest of that book... :)

[BrianP]

My dad had it done. He loves it and he has never had any problems with it. The only thing that stinks about the procedure is when your dad gets it recorded by the doctor and shows everyone he knows and you have to see it 100 times. I feel like I could perform the procedure.

Brian

[critter]

People with myopia gets the best and more permanent results with lasik. Presbyopia and hyperopia(farsighted) is age related so lasik is not a permanent fix. The eye center will only give me a one year warranty.:(


Thanks! Actually, I think it's funny too, except that I cringe every time I tell someone about Tom Quackenbush, because I know what must be flashing through the other person's mind. He is nonetheless the world's leading authority on the work of the "quack" Dr. William Bates of New York.I need clinical studies. Does the book have some stats?

UPDATE: My eyes are doing great and I can see just as good now as I could after the surgery! Good luck critter! Does that mean you won't be at MOAB?! :(
The travel budget has been slashed with this operation.
Have fun. It will be a weekend to remember.

[net_hippy]

I've thought about getting this done but I think I've got pretty used to wearing my glasses now. In fact, I actually quite like them.

Although it would be nice to see whilst swimming or in the shower (especially so I would be able to avoid the razors that my flatmate leaves on the shower floor!)

Also I think my eyes will probably get worse still so I don't think I'd be able to anyway at the moment.

[critter]

I don't what to get used to them. I lose them or forget them; and I play in the water too much.

But I have the Presbyopia,

Yes, I originally went to the Dr. for a baseline eye test, which I hadn't had in years. And I got some designer frames. :mad: But my 1.50 readers are still doing fine, and a more recent (free) eye test indicated I'm still in the same place. No need for prescription lenses yet, and hopefully not for a while.:)

No Doctors required. Unless your covered by insurance. Even then, going to any doc is something I don't like. Although, eye docs can find diseases that could go undetected.

John
Is the oven clock getting fuzzy at 10 to 20 feet? I predict one day it will. It sneaks up on you.
Just go to the drug store or Costco and sample the different reading glasses available. Try the weakest strength 1.0 or 1.25 and look at something 10 feet away. If it looks more clear then you need bifocals.:D:D

9 days until Moab

[Jerrick]

I still have it on the shelf in my bathr-- uh, reading room. It's gotten buried by other stuff. I got about 1/3 of the way through without a single mention of the stuff to practice to improve the vision. Almost that whole first 1/3 of the book is in support of why the stuff works, without talking about the stuff. Usually a sign that the stuff doesn't work.

Clearly from the text, it has worked for lots of people, so it should not be disregarded and it sounds like there could be something there for you. Might be one of those things where you just need to learn how to work (or un-work) the correct muscles. I can relax all the (outer) muscles in my body, pretty much, except in my neck area. I have a really hard time there. As for my legs, I'm pretty sure I can turn them off completely. Eyes would take some effort/practice, and continuing practice to make it a natural habit or keep from backsliding.

But I have the Presbyopia, which apparently means the techniques in the book probably won't do anything for me. Reading hints of that also made me lose interest. However I did learn A LOT about how eyes work, and a bunch of information on optics, though some may not be correct. Definitely not time wasted.

For Critter:
Yes, I originally went to the Dr. for a baseline eye test, which I hadn't had in years. And I got some designer frames. :mad: But my 1.50 readers are still doing fine, and a more recent (free) eye test indicated I'm still in the same place. No need for prescription lenses yet, and hopefully not for a while.

ACK! I just read the article on Quackwatch. I think I'll give up on reading the rest of that book... :)

Lazy. Just finish it. :p

[uni57]

Lazy. Just finish it. :pIt's a BIG book. And now he's been swayed by the QuackWatch site. I, however, remain a true believer in Quackenbush and the quack himself, Dr. William Bates.


John, doesn't the idea of the external eye muscles squeezing the eye out of shape seem to be the only plausible explanation for how one's prescription can change during adulthood (long after your head stops growing)? Even my angle of astigmatism has changed. If it's true, then most eye problems are functional problems, not organic problems, and can be corrected.

This page shows a bunch of people (http://www.naturalvisioncenter.com/success.html) who have had success. They are on Tom Quackenbush's Natural Vision Center web site. They all had driver licenses requiring corrective lenses. They were able to improve their vision, retake the eye test, and get their license reissued without the corrective lenses restriction. I've seen first-hand incredible amounts of variability in one's vision (my friend that I mentioned previously). I do believe people can have success with this method and that one day I will, too. Don't think that you've wasted your time and money. Keep the book in your ba... um, library and for now, retain your healthy skepticism. Maybe even offer it to a friend as a possible alternative to the irreversible LASIK procedure (it doesn't hurt to check it out before opting for the surgery).

[johnfoss]

Lazy. Just finish it. :pYOU finish it. Want me to bring it to Moab? :D

And then if you like that one, you can try The Silmarillion, by J.R.R. Tolkien. This is a collection of his notes and unfinished stuff, put together by his son after he died. If you read Lord of the Rings and thought it was a breeze, you'll love that one! Some of the "thickest" reading in my experience. While he keeps piling on the olde-English-esque new vocabulary, he tells these detailed stories about characters that barely got mentioned in his novels. The origins of Middle Earth and all its critters, and several ages of its history before The Hobbit.

Is the oven clock getting fuzzy at 10 to 20 feet? I predict one day it will. It sneaks up on you.I'm told I have a slight prescription for distance vision, but I'm pretty sure I'm still better than 20/20 at everything beyond arm's length.

John, doesn't the idea of the external eye muscles squeezing the eye out of shape seem to be the only plausible explanation for how one's prescription can change during adulthood (long after your head stops growing)?Like I said, it sounds like the techniques may work for you, so you should continue with it. But on the other hand, if something like this is potentially true for large numbers of people, is there really no impetus for real clinical tests to be done? If so, why hasn't anyone done it?

[martin.phillips]

Has anyone had experience of intraocular lens implants? My wife has been told that her short sight is at the limit for LASIK treatment (she's about -12 d)?

Martin/

[critter]

Has anyone had experience of intraocular lens implants? My wife has been told that her short sight is at the limit for LASIK treatment (she's about -12 d)?

Martin/

My grandma and my dad got lens implants. They can see better than I can. They are happy with no problems. Also I have a friend that got it done when he was 37. He still doing fine.

I told my eye doc that, ''just give me the transplant now. Why wait for cataracts?'' Doc said. ''no way, it's unethical unless it's the only option.''

Usually, one lens is for close and one is for far. Wait till the implants have an auto-focus! That will be sweet.

8 days till Moab.

[BillyTheMountain]

I have a friend who got LASIX, but the doc didn't calibrate the instrument right.

Just after the do hit the laser button, he heard the doc go "oh shit!"

Now he'll never see good out of that eye. Google it!

[critter]

I used eye drops for the last 3 days to prevent or stop any kind of eye infection.

Tomorrow is the 1st day of Moab and my 1st elective surgery.

I received two narcotic pills; one just before the procedure and one later in the day.

In 24 hours it will be done. It's a little scary.

[spazdude222]

LOL couldn't resit. My dad had it a couple years ago went well the only thing is that they set his vision for distance i.e. he can see just fine but he needs reading glasses.

Same thing for my dad. Two main things: do your research before getting it done. Make sure you go somewhere with great customer service. My dad just had stupid Dr. Booth (possibly the most famous lasik surgeon in N. Texas) and turns out, once you are a famous Doctor, you don't have to be a nice one. Also, if given the option of having one eye fixed for distance and the other for close up things, or both for the same thing, I'd say get one eye for distance and one for close up. Your brain is powerful enough to figure that out and learn to adjust, and if you have both eyes adjusted say for example to see distence, you'll still need corrective lenses to see close up things.

[critter]

It's all done. It went great. No pain during or after.

I can now read without glasses. My distance is still fuzzy; they tell me it will take a week or two until it's better.

Just have to stay out of the ocean for a week or two.:( But I can ride my uni now!:)

[Jerrick]

YOU finish it. Want me to bring it to Moab? :D

And then if you like that one, you can try The Silmarillion, by J.R.R. Tolkien. This is a collection of his notes and unfinished stuff, put together by his son after he died. If you read Lord of the Rings and thought it was a breeze, you'll love that one! Some of the "thickest" reading in my experience. While he keeps piling on the olde-English-esque new vocabulary, he tells these detailed stories about characters that barely got mentioned in his novels. The origins of Middle Earth and all its critters, and several ages of its history before The Hobbit.



If I was at Moab id take you up on that offer. But Ill have to pick it up here in town. As for the Silmarillion, I read that back in middle school a bit after i finished the trilogy. I quite enjoyed it.

[BillyTheMountain]

Also, if given the option of having one eye fixed for distance and the other for close up things, or both for the same thing, I'd say get one eye for distance and one for close up. Your brain is powerful enough to figure that out and learn to adjust, and if you have both eyes adjusted say for example to see distence, you'll still need corrective lenses to see close up things.

Doesn't that screw up your binocular vision, and thus your depth perception?

Hint: Yes it does.

[critter]

. Also, if given the option of having one eye fixed for distance and the other for close up things, or both for the same thing, I'd say get one eye for distance and one for close up..
yeah... that is what I had done.

Doesn't that screw up your binocular vision, and thus your depth perception?

Hint: Yes it does.

Funny, I have only heard this from people that never had the procedure done.

I don't notice that yet. I know two eyes is better than one when it comes to depth perception. Even if one eye is clear and the other is fuzzy, having two eyes can measure depth.

I will go play tennis in a week or two and I'll let you know.

[ian.stockwell]

3. You had to live with getting new glasses every 2 years for 46 years since the age of 4.
4. You could not see without glasses, even after 40 years of correction.
5. You had save forever to afford the surgery.


3 - Yes, although in my case from the age of 5, and as I haven't reached 51 yet, that will be 42 years for me.
4 - Yes, in fact if I put my glasses down on a patterned surface I can't see them and have to grope around un til I find them.
5 - Doesn't matter how long I save for as my astigmatism is beyond the range of the laser treatment, and it's too extreme for contact lenses, so I guess I'm just stuck with my spec's.

However none of the above have turned me into Mr Angry, who shouts at the first light hearted comment I recieve. You don't own this thread, you have started it, and having done so sit back and let it grow and mature. You'll get some sensible comments, some flippant and maybe some insulting ones.
Just remember that this is a unicycle forum, not a medical help forum.

[critter]

You'll get some sensible comments, some flippant and maybe some insulting ones.
Just remember that this is a unicycle forum, not a medical help forum.
What happen to digitaldave?"


6 days after surgery.
My vision is great up close, but my distance vision still sucks. Most things are blurry outside of 50 feet. I can't read a licence plate on a car >100 feet away. The Dr sez it will get better two weeks after surgery date. Let's Hope.


The good news if they don't clear up:
Because the eyes have been over corrected; In ten years when my vision gets worse, it will really be getting better.

[BillyTheMountain]

What happen to digitaldave?"


6 days after surgery.
My vision is great up close, but my distance vision still sucks. Most things are blurry outside of 50 feet. I can't read a licence plate on a car >100 feet away. The Dr sez it will get better two weeks after surgery date. Let's Hope.


The good news if they don't clear up:
Because the eyes have been over corrected; In ten years when my vision gets worse, it will really be getting better.


According to this article, if total blindness is to occur, it usually takes 12 days:
http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=blinded+by+lasik&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
Nov 25, 2008
Read: More of My Posts

KESQ news reports that the state of Nevada has issued a restraining order to stop Dr. Stella Chou and Vikas Jain ofLasik First from practicing lasik procedures. Lasik First advertised highly discounted Lasik surgery for patients in California.

According to the report, a doctor affiliated with Lasik First blinded 22 patients and the clinic misrepresented the medical qualifications of a staff member:

[critter]

According to this article, if total blindness is to occur, it usually takes 12 days:

According to the report, a doctor affiliated with Lasik First blinded 22 patients and the clinic misrepresented the medical qualifications of a staff member:
I can't hear you. I think I went deaf.



It's only been ten days. The incisions have healed. I'm cleared by the doc to go in the ocean. I have 20/15 in the right eye and my left eye can read the smallest of print.

Sure it's feels goofy. I have halos on lights at night, but only a minor nuisance. I will get used to it. My vision isn't as good as the 1st 40 years of my life but it's better than it was. Not having to find my glasses 30 times a day is great. I will go see more of the world with my hacked up eyes and let you all know what I find.

[BillyTheMountain]

I can't hear you. I think I went deaf.



It's only been ten days. The incisions have healed. I'm cleared by the doc to go in the ocean. I have 20/15 in the right eye and my left eye can read the smallest of print.

Sure it's feels goofy. I have halos on lights at night, but only a minor nuisance. I will get used to it. My vision isn't as good as the 1st 40 years of my life but it's better than it was. Not having to find my glasses 30 times a day is great. I will go see more of the world with my hacked up eyes and let you all know what I find.

Good for you!

Now you seem to need the same operation on your ears :D

[Nurse Ben]

I had Lasik ten years ago, I'm still gald I did it, but my vision has degraded somewhat over time. I went from 20-10/15 to 20-25/30. Night vision and vision indoors is not hardly as good as with natural light. Some halos at night and blurriness when tired, esp at night. Also developed dry eyes, gets worse when seasonal allergies start kicking.

I had the surgery after being forced to give up contacts. I wore glasses for a few years, but they don't work so great with an active lifestyle, esp white water kayaking.

I think the risks are much greater than we generally believe, this is likely because some of the mistakes are fixed and the ones that aren't are paid off pand have a non-disclosure contract.

The most important point to take away from this thread is that you can't change a seriously gone wrong eye surgery. Losing your vision is a life changer, so think hard about how inconvenient those glasses/contacts really are. Lasik is an elective surgery for a reason.

I would not recommend having the surgery when you ae young. This is for two reasons:
1) If you have a problem, you'll have it longer and it will impact your life to a great extent
2) Age is the great equalizer, by waiting you may come to see such "vanity" or convenience as just that, instead deciding that you can put up with glassess or contacts.

I would not have had the Lasik surgery if I could have continued to wear contacts.

[BillyTheMountain]

I had Lasik ten years ago, I'm still gald I did it, but my vision has degraded somewhat over time. I went from 20-10/15 to 20-25/30. Night vision and vision indoors is not hardly as good as with natural light. Some halos at night and blurriness when tired, esp at night. Also developed dry eyes, gets worse when seasonal allergies start kicking.



Most of those problems would occur at age 40 anyway.

Are you really a nurse?

Why don;t you wear nurse hats anymore?

[critter]

recap: I never needed glasses until I was 43.(X1.25 reading glasses from a dollar store.) Although I could still go to the store without them.

At age 49, I needed glasses at the store or at work. I prefered the X1.25 for watching TV and X2.25 for reading fine print. I would change glasses or take 'em off and on constantly all day.

Age 50 my eyes don't focus anymore.:( I need bifocals. That means that I would have to buy glasses from a prescription instead of me buying them at the dollar store. I felt trapped. I don't want to wear glasses because: I like to look out the corner of my eyes.

Contacts would be nice if you didn't have to take them out and clean them everyday.


I had Lasik ten years ago, I'm still gald I did it, but my vision has degraded somewhat over time.

Lasik is an elective surgery for a reason.

I would not recommend having the surgery when you ae young.
I would not have had the Lasik surgery if I could have continued to wear contacts.
That's right, you are getting to the age where the average person will soon need bifocals. You will need reading glasses.

Lasik is elective surgery because people can wear coke bottles on the eyes instead.:D

To get your moneys worth, I think the best is to get done in your early twenties if you are nearsighted. That way, you get more years before father time will hits you in the 40s. But if you are already 40 years old I would wait until you are 50 years old. Over 55 years old the cornea starts getting too thin, so the operation would be bad.


Most of those problems would occur at age 40 anyway.

Are you really a nurse?

Why don;t you wear nurse hats anymore?

I miss the hats. Nurses smoked at the nurse's station back in the day when they wore hats. Bring back the hats but not cigarettes.

[DigitalDave]

However none of the above have turned me into Mr Angry, who shouts at the first light hearted comment I recieve. You don't own this thread, you have started it, and having done so sit back and let it grow and mature. You'll get some sensible comments, some flippant and maybe some insulting ones.
Just remember that this is a unicycle forum, not a medical help forum.

I've been gone for 3 years now. And, still there are members here that can't read, comprehend, or spell. Maybe you feel the need to 'bust my balls' when I've been away for so long? This kind of 'light heart' comment after 3 years reminds me of why I haven't been here.

Interesting that this thread is on the front page after 3 years.

This procedure is the best money I ever spent.
I still have one problem, but it's easily resolved.

My cornea is getting distortion if I sleep on my eyes. I am 'fussy' if there is any reading involved for half the day. I was told that my 'lens' is as thin as they can go, so I assume my problem is from 'bending' the cornea during sleep, and it takes time to recover the natural shape.

I've relearned my sleeping habits to resolve this problem.

I also have some minor 'dry eye' if I have moving air, but not like I had after the procedure. I just wear shades or safety glasses, and carry drops if I know I might have problems. (HVAC at work, or riding bike, or in my convertible)

[critter]

$4816.75:eek:

That's what mine cost. And that's what my girlfriend's cost. She got her eyes done today. Three weeks after I got mine done. But she got PRK not Lasik. She had scaring so this was the only choice.

Metaphorically, the difference of the two procedures is that Lasik has a door that opens and closes. And PRK gets the door ripped off.

PRK takes longer to heal. She will wear contacts on her eyes for 3 days that act as a band-aid. She also got pain pills for 3 days that I didn't get or need.

[SirCharles1st]

I'm sure that it depends upon the provider you go to, but about how long does it take from when you first contact the sergeon to surgery time? do they have to first check your eyes, and then check your eyes a month later to see if they changed or anything like that?

I'm nearsighted and have tried contacts, but they always irritate my eyes so that it looks like i'm stoned.

[critter]

I'm sure that it depends upon the provider you go to, but about how long does it take from when you first contact the sergeon to surgery time? do they have to first check your eyes, and then check your eyes a month later to see if they changed or anything like that?

looks like i'm stoned.

Hey stoner,:D It took me over three months before I had surgery. But that's because I never been to the eye doctor before. They made me wear contacts to see if I liked mono-vision.
If the dr knows your prescription it should be faster. You can't wear contacts for a month before surgery.

As for follow-ups. I went 24hours later, 1 week later, 1 month later, and they want me back in another month. I getting tired of going to the dr's office but it is all part of the pay package.

I gave the doctor a rating of 5(5 being the highest) for how happy I am with the results.

[critter]

update: I'm happy. My rating is 4.5 stars out of 5.

My eyes are itchy only sometimes, but more than before surgery.

Right eye has improved to 20/10. (Most patients won't attain this.)
Left eye can read the ingredients of food labels at the market.

Because I have a sore knee, I haven't played tennis yet. That will be the best test for depth perception.

aloha

[BillyTheMountain]

update: I'm happy. My rating is 4.5 stars out of 5.

My eyes are itchy only sometimes, but more than before surgery.

Right eye has improved to 20/10. (Most patients won't attain this.)
Left eye can read the ingredients of food labels at the market.

Because I have a sore knee, I haven't played tennis yet. That will be the best test for depth perception.

aloha

OMG! THe operation gave you a sore knee, itchy eyes, and has you seeing stars!!!:eek:

You could lose your appetite reading food labels at the supermarket. That's why the print is so small.

[uni57]

OMG! THe operation gave you a sore knee, itchy eyes, and has you seeing stars!!!:eek:LOL, Billy! That's one of the funniest things you've ever said.

You could lose your appetite reading food labels at the supermarket. That's why the print is so small.No, the print is normal size when there is only a handful of wholesome ingredients (in that case, they want you to read it). If you need a magnifying glass to read the ingredient list, put it back on the shelf.

[critter]

LOL, Billy! That's one of the funniest things you've ever said..
lol
it was a funny one.

I didn't see that coming.