Fundmentalist Atheist at work

[tobbogonist]

I am furious at God for not existing

[mawesome]

Haha, nobody replied to your thread:p

[edsbelly]

Haha, nobody replied to your thread:p
Heh.. nobody replied to your post.. which you made a minute ago.


Ed

EDIT: 3 minutes ago.

[tobbogonist]

hey somebody replied to my thread

[ivan]

I didn't even read it at first.

[tobbogonist]

There was some other thread about fundamentalist athiest's and posting a thread about this very such subject was one of the points on being one or something. i have no idea i didnt even really read it, just thought it would be fun. maybe i am digging a hole

[Mikefule]

Just been on the National Secular Society's website where they are discussing rolling hops and kick up mounts.

[bugman]

Just been on the National Secular Society's website where they are discussing rolling hops and kick up mounts.

I thought this was the NSS website? At least you would think so.

[Gilby]

This thread doesn't exist.

[monkeyman]

No one can really know if this thread exists

[tobbogonist]

i am not real

[podzol]

I am thinking about this thread therefore it exists.

Edit: I am not thinking very hard about this thread, so maybe it only exists a little bit.

[bcwheelriderguyhehehehehe]

<<:p Trippy:D >>

[Seager]

Your mom's thread doesn't exist.

shutup. It's funny.

[ivan]

Is reality real?

[Danni]

What I don't understand is why god would chose us, out of many many planets out there. According to the "Drake Formula", there are probably more than 10000 civilizations that are equal or greater in technological advancement than our own. Why us? If he so good, why is there famine, murder, rape, war, and sickness? If this is the work of a devine presence, then he is doing a pretty bad job of it. Priests, monks, whatever, are claimed to be the holiest of men, yet I keep on hearing of priests molesting, sodomizing, etc. Here in Canada, the government is getting sued for millions each year by natives who have been molested by trusted "messengers of god".

I believe religion is just people trying to make themselves and earth seem more important, and will cling to this, even when evidence contradicts them. Ex: Many astronomers were executed for stating that the world was round, because it contradicted the bible. Now, it is common fact that everyone agrees with. Most people agree with gravity, but it is still a theory!!! So all that bullshit about evolution just being a theory and people don't like to be told that they're just advanced monkies, not created by god. Well if evolutions must not be taught in schools, then gravity shouldn't too. Since gravity is a theory, then us orbiting the sun MUST be a theory. Most science is not 100%, so, using the logic of the board of education, most of science should not be taught because it is only theory.

The holy lands: Where the most blood has been spilled. Would god really want cristians to plunge their blades in arabs backs? Wtf! It's just like the "Extremist Muslims" kill all infadels. Muslims, for the longuest time were the most advanced civilization in the middle ages; they had large universities and schools; the best in the world, public hosptals, and plumbing. Then they were attacked by waves of crusaders, turning them into a warfairing race.

I believe many will disagree with me, and I don't care. If you disagree, give me pure fact and I will reconsider. Religion is good in small doses, it often gives good morales to live by. When it is taken to extremism, it causes clashes. In my eyes, religion is a lack of a more rounded understanding and all rounded education.

[Borges]

Then they were attacked by waves of crusaders, turning them into a warfairing race.
They where a war faring race (human) before the crusades too.

[Mikefule]

i am not real


Get real.

[ivan]

And keep it real.

[monkeyman]

Can God turn off his omnipotence?

[spazdude222]

you have to have faith to know the thread is here...its like the chair! i believe it can hold me up, but i have to sit in it to prove my trust! lol

[spazdude222]

Can God turn off his omnipotence?
um...yeah...its called off-nipotence

[cathwood]

And keep it real.

From who's point of view?

[spazdude222]

What I don't understand is why god would chose us...of a more rounded understanding and all rounded education.
well, if science is not 100% then religion is just as trustworthy as science...its not 100% either...God left a lot of gray area, much of which you touched on...Why is there evil? why are their wars? why do "holymen" sin? are their other civilizations? if so, why us? these are all good questions...but like the gravity you mentioned...there are no "pure facts" in religion or science.

[BillyTheMountain]

,then gravity shouldn't too. Since gravity is a theory,

The holy lands: Where the most blood has been spilled. Would god really want cristians to plunge their blades in arabs backs? Wtf! It's just like the "Extremist Muslims" kill all infadels. Muslims, for the longuest time were the most advanced civilization in the middle ages; they had large universities and schools; the best in the world, public hosptals, and plumbing. Then they were attacked by waves of crusaders, turning them into a warfairing race.

I believe many will disagree with me, and I don't care. If you disagree, give me pure fact and I will reconsider. Religion is good in small doses, it often gives good morales to live by. When it is taken to extremism, it causes clashes. In my eyes, religion is a lack of a more rounded understanding and all rounded education.

You may have heard: Gravity is a myth, the Earth sucks.

Priests are not "messengers" by anyone's definition. It's job they go to school for. None of the "true messengers" were formally prepared for the task.

I don't know about GOD, but Jesus would never have anyone go to war. If you can believe the Bible, he would have rather all his disciples be killed than for them to treat anyone differently than they treat Jesus himself. Jesus was an extreme pacifist.

No true Christian supports war or capitol punishment.

[maestro8]

No true Christian supports war or capitol punishment.
...unless they contributed to a Republican's election campaign fund :D

[BillyTheMountain]

...unless they contributed to a Republican's election campaign fund :D


I said TRUE christian......

[JusticeZero]

well, if science is not 100% then religion is just as trustworthy as science...its not 100% either...
Does not follow. Science is not 100% and does not claim to be, but is set up to try to continually get closer to 100% even if reaching it is impossible. religion uses interpretation of a book.
If I turn the knob on my stove, what I know and have observed leads me to believe that the burner will get hot. That's not 100%; the stove might be broke, or unplugged, or there might be some other wierd explanation why it makes my soup boil. It might be one of those funky induction things, even, though it -looks- like an electric stove element to me. I trust in my observations enough to know that I probably shouldn't put my hand on the burner after i've turned it to high. I also know that there is a chance that if I do, I won't be burned because the things I assumed about the stove weren't true, in which case I need to go back to the drawing board and revise the theory of the stove.
If some guy comes upstairs reading the Lord of the Rings and uses an odd interpretation of the words of Frodo to tell me that the stovetop is actually getting cold, that's religion. Frodo might have some great lessons about perseverence and bravery, but i'm not going to trust him on the subject of stove elements. In fact, Frodo is likely to have better ideas on perseverence than the science types, who probably mostly shrug and note that statistically, the chances of achieving a goal drop precipitously at the moment one decides to stop working toward the goal. But that doesn't mean that Aragorn has anything valid to tell me about how the kitchen implements work.

[Mikefule]

If you can believe the Bible, he would have rather all his disciples be killed than for them to treat anyone differently than they treat Jesus himself. Jesus was an extreme pacifist.

No true Christian supports war or capitol punishment.

Although He did curse the fig tree for not bearing fruit, and send the Gadarene swine to their deaths. Surely he could have dealt with both problems more constructively.

[ice_cold_uni6]

*puffs on a bong*

yeah....deep stuff man

[spazdude222]

Although He did curse the fig tree for not bearing fruit, and send the Gadarene swine to their deaths. Surely he could have dealt with both problems more constructively.
ok, well he saved the life of a demon posesed man when he let the pigs run off the cliff and die, so are you suggesting that proteting animals is more important than protecting people? Please note: i am NOT advocating cruelty to animals, but if i have to kill 100,000 pigs to save a person, i probably would. So yes, i'm sure the pigs didn't have to die...but i hardley see why that matters, they were just pigs. Also, about what billythemountain said about all "true" christians, thats rediculous. If no "true" christians would support war than, "true" christians were supposed to stand by and let hitler slaughter millions of Jews? I doubt Jesus would agree with you. The bible says theres a time for war. And christianity is based on capitol punishment; Jesus had to die for us to be saved. So i'm not saying that its ok to murder, but the bible also says there's a time to kill. See ecclesiastes 3:3,8