Fundamentalist atheists?

[UNIquelyCanadian]

How high do you score on the: "You may be a fundamentalist atheist if (http://www.tektonics.org/parody/fundyath.html)" test?

...Mandatory smiley: :)

[JusticeZero]

It's a pretty ridiculous set of muddled stereotypes, with a bunch of things that actually are completely correct mixed in with obviously absurd qualifiers attached. It's full of the "Have you stopped beating your wife?" type statements. It also has a bunch of things in there that appeal to arggument from incredulity, which is a logical fallacy; some of the things sneered at in there can actually be answered pretty well. (24, 25, 42, for instance. The theory of evolution has been soundly proven to a similar level of satisfaction as the theory of gravity, due in part to the fact that it was heavily challenged.. theistic claims of absurdity, however, are not throwing rocks to test the strength of the theory, they are throwing marshmallows.)

Mostly it's offensive insofar as it attempts to define the group *as a whole* and how they think rather than just the hypothetical loony depicted, or tries to argue it's own points rather than just depicting a character. Pretty inflammatory really. I knew someone who lived up to some of those other ones. I thought they were an obnoxious nutcase, myself.

[phlegm]

Psst... it's a joke... you're supposed to laugh... :p

[ivan]

Psst... it's a joke... you're supposed to laugh... :p
Yeah, but it's kinda crappy. I didn't get past number three, it was soooo boring.

[JJuggle]

Number 6 is really stupid. The question is not can God create a rock so big he can't lift it. The question is can God create a rock so heavy he can't lift it. You might ask if God can create a rock so big he can't get his arms around it, though.

I stopped there because it's stupid. But I do like the challenge of eating extra drippy ice cream, so that one didn't make much sense either. God would know that.

[ivan]

Rock is stupid. My favourite is from the Simpsons(by Homer, of course)

"Can Jesus microwave a boritoe(sp) so hot that he himself could not eat it?"

[JJuggle]

My favourite is from the Simpsons(by Homer, of course)
I didn't know The Simpsons was part of the classical literature.

[Mikefule]

Well, I'm an atheist and one who has spent far too long thinking through the issues, reading the philosphers, and having the arguments - i.e. I am not atheist by default, but as a considered position - and I found the list amusing. There were a few palpable hits on the way I have behaved and things I have said over the years, and I recognised some real behaviours often displayed by "militant" atheists.

If we can't laugh at ourselves, God knows who we can laugh at.

[cathwood]

Well, I'm an atheist and one who has spent far too long thinking through the issues, reading the philosphers, and having the arguments - i.e. I am not atheist by default, but as a considered position - and I found the list amusing. There were a few palpable hits on the way I have behaved and things I have said over the years, and I recognised some real behaviours often displayed by "militant" atheists.

If we can't laugh at ourselves, God knows who we can laugh at.

:D

I'm laughing at us anyway.

[johnfoss]

Psst... it's a joke... you're supposed to laugh... :p
Psst... I didn't think most of them were funny. I had to read pretty far down until I started seeing funny ones. Most were just mildly annoying.

[Borges]

272. You think the fact that Pauly Shore was allowed to make movies in the early nineties is undeniable proof that there is no God....well actually I'm almost inclined to agree with you on that one.
:D

Sorry to take any of this seriously, I know it wasn't intended that way.
1. You became an atheist when you were 10 years old, based on ideas of God that you learned in Sunday School. Your ideas about God haven't changed since.
At age 10 you where ready for something more Sunday School, but everyone just kept trying push that bearded man in the white robe at you until you got really really sick of it all.

[monkeyman]

It's a pretty ridiculous set of muddled stereotypes
I'm sure you say the exact thing every time you hear a Christian joke. ;)

I thought the list was funny.

[Mikefule]

I'm sure you say the exact thing every time you hear a Christian joke. ;)


What a perceptive comment. You'll go far.


I should set off now.

[mscalisi]

Psst... it's a joke... you're supposed to laugh... :p

Hmmm...I don't actually think it was supposed to be funny. It looks more like an attack on athiests from a christian perspective.

Don't get me wrong, I can laugh at myself and even my spiritual choices, but this wasn't humor.

[James_Potter]

Hmmm...I don't actually think it was supposed to be funny. It looks more like an attack on athiests from a christian perspective.
Don't get me wrong, I can laugh at myself and even my spiritual choices, but this wasn't humor.
I concur.

[UNIquelyCanadian]

Hmmm...I don't actually think it was supposed to be funny. It looks more like an attack on athiests from a christian perspective.

Don't get me wrong, I can laugh at myself and even my spiritual choices, but this wasn't humor.

Lighten up... you must have missed the: :)

You may enjoy this list more: http://www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/GodProof.htm

...as well, they get better (?!?) towards the end of the list.

[mscalisi]

I saw the :) ...but I still don't think it was funny, and it still looks like an attack.

I did enjoy this more....because I'm a hypocrite. (and it was less scathing)

...lists that are supposed to be humourous should never be more than 20 items.

Lighten up... you must have missed the: :)

You may enjoy this list more: http://www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/GodProof.htm

...as well, they get better (?!?) towards the end of the list.

[UNIquelyCanadian]

I saw the :) ...but I still don't think it was funny, and it still looks like an attack.

I did enjoy this more....because I'm a hypocrite. (and it was less scathing)

...lists that are supposed to be humourous should never be more than 20 items.

If it is an attack, I hope it is on a strawman.

BTW, Was the other list not humourous either, because it was longer than 20 questions?

[mscalisi]

If it is an attack, I hope it is on a strawman.

BTW, Was the other list not humourous either, because it was longer than 20 questions?


I actually did not find the other list funny either. Both lists are intended to ridicule opposing thoughts. One might also think that only two possible spiritualities are possible by reading them.

This, however, is funny.

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/29540?issue=4227&special=1999

[monkeyman]

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/29540?issue=4227&special=1999

uni 4 chirst 4 allah!!!



I wonder how much hate mail The Onion gets from people who don't get it.....

[UNIquelyCanadian]

About the same ratio of people posting on this thread. :(

[BillyTheMountain]

What a perceptive comment. You'll go far.


I should set off now.

And this from a man who never uses sarcasm.....

[monkeyman]

And this from a man who never uses sarcasm.....

I thought he was being serious.

:(

[forrestunifreak]

It looks more like an attack on athiests from a christian perspective.


Your point is?

[JusticeZero]

So, it's still in poor taste to post such an attack on a list frequented by a number of people of the attacked group.

[BillyTheMountain]

So, it's still in poor taste to post such an attack on a list frequented by a number of people of the attacked group.

Right.

So you're saying if fewer Atheists frequented here, it would be OK.......

[JusticeZero]

Well, if it was on a Christian forum i'd roll my eyes, but I wouldn't really have much ability to complain, even if it's still not the greatest thing for the spirit as far as i'm concerned, and probably not a great thing to promote in any context. But here it's like spouting off a string of off-color jokes about 'stupid (insert list of bad stereotypes here) Mexicans' in mixed company that noticably includes a number of Latinos of various walks of life. Bad form, really.

[BillyTheMountain]

Well, if it was on a Christian forum i'd roll my eyes, but I wouldn't really have much ability to complain, even if it's still not the greatest thing for the spirit as far as i'm concerned, and probably not a great thing to promote in any context. But here it's like spouting off a string of off-color jokes about 'stupid (insert list of bad stereotypes here) Mexicans' in mixed company that noticably includes a number of Latinos of various walks of life. Bad form, really.

Right.

Like you're saying that would be OK on the KKK Just Conversation Pages.....

[JusticeZero]

No, i'm not saying it would be OK there, really. It's wrong to say things that are offensive to a group of people like that as a rule. But it is also offensive to say things offensive to a group of people -to people in that group- on top of that. If it's a little secluded forum, they're just doing the one wrong, whereas here, both come into play.

[spazdude222]

Well, I'm an atheist... God knows who we can laugh at.
wait...what?

[spazdude222]

No, i'm not saying it would be OK there, really. It's wrong to say things that are offensive to a group of people like that as a rule. But it is also offensive to say things offensive to a group of people -to people in that group- on top of that. If it's a little secluded forum, they're just doing the one wrong, whereas here, both come into play.
Ok, its understandable that you took this and were slightly offended...but really, its not bad form at all, it was a joke...just because you don't get it doesn't mean its a bad joke...If I, a christian can laugh at a family guy episode, then surlely you can get over yourself and find the humor in it...i mean come on...extra drippy ice-cream???

[forrestunifreak]

Well, if it was on a Christian forum i'd roll my eyes, but I wouldn't really have much ability to complain, even if it's still not the greatest thing for the spirit as far as i'm concerned, and probably not a great thing to promote in any context. But here it's like spouting off a string of off-color jokes about 'stupid (insert list of bad stereotypes here) Mexicans' in mixed company that noticably includes a number of Latinos of various walks of life. Bad form, really.

And yet it's perfectly ok for the the "other side" (to put it bluntly) to do the same thing regarding christians???

[JusticeZero]

Not especially.
The other list was a bit more tolerable, because it didn't make statements of how all X are wrong. I sure as hell wouldn't post it in a forum full of a lot of christians, though.
Because of the upbringing and theoretical political leanings and such that I have, I don't really like to say what a group should be saying behind closed doors to each other. It's probably not a great thing to be saying, but if it stays where nobody cares, I really can't justify going all thought police on you, not because it's OK for them to say it to each other, but because it's none of my business. But saying the same things in a mixed community is divisive, hurtful, and short-sighted; I have no problems saying that those things should not be posted.