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Ricky W
2006-07-14, 06:32 PM
i have two torker lx seats (th one that came on my lx and the one that came on my tx) I was wondering how I could make the one on my lx a air seat. I have a few questions and I might come up woth more but here they are for now

1.could I use the cover it comes with
2.what size drill bit will I need
3.how do I staple the cover back on
4.how long does it take
5.how hard is it to do

Jerrick
2006-07-14, 07:05 PM
Hiya, I have done this to 2 LX seats in 2 days, and its really easy.

All you need is a 12.5inche tube, screwdriver, drill and drill bit, and pliers, tape, and a sharp knife.

First, take the seat off the seatpost, it makes it easier to move and do stuff to the seat.

2nd remove the screws off the front handle and rear bumper. Take the bumper and handle off and set them aside.

3rd, I would suggest putting the screws loosely on again, so the the bolts of the seat stiffner and the bolts from your bumper and handle don't fall out when your moving the seat around.

4th, Take a flat head screwdriver, and you should see, on the inside of your seat, along the edges, metal clips. Those are what hold the cover in place. So, just use the screwdriver to get underneath them, and ply them open a little bit, do it to each and every one.

5th, now you can remove the cover. Just peel it back and off, you should have the black cover, a thin soft foam inner that is in the cover, and a thick piece of foam. If the thin soft foam is on the thick hard foam, take it off the saddle foam, and put it back in the saddle cover. Now, set the cover aside, and throw or put the thick piece of foam away.

6th, now you should have a naked LX seat, beautiful isn't it? now its time to drill it up! Using the drill bit and drill, flip the seat over, so your looking at the bottom of it, in the back of the seat you should see a thick section of plastic, that is just a straight ridge, and will go almost to the very back of the seat, drill the whole right at the end of it. After the drill, smooth out the edges and make sure the tube valve of the tire fits in it.

7th, now flip your base over again, you should be looking at the top of it. Slightly inflate your 12.5" tube, and run the valve into the whole you just drilled. You should now have the tube in and just flopping around. Fold the tube under so you have a straight part of the tube covering the back of the seat, and the other parts of the tube going down the middle of the saddle. You can use tape to hold it in place. Now, seeing how you have the tube on the back and middle, fold it over in the front, so it fits well in the front of your seat. Mess around with it until it fits best and will be most comfy, try not to have edges poking out, or the tube hanging off the side of the seatbase.

8th, Now you have your tube in place with tape, lets get the cover back on! Starting with the back, slowly move the cover over the innertube, pull the tape off before or after you get the cover on. Now clamp the back of the cover back with the metal clamps, put them on tight, but not too tight, you don't want them to cut through the cover.

9th, repeat step 8, just slowly attach the cover, moving from the back, to the front, and removing the tape, so the tube doesn't lose its position, and clamp the cover all back.

10th, take your front bumper and put it back on, its easy, tighten the screws up good. Now, on your back bumper, you should notice it wont fit because of the tube vevle is in the way. Just use a knife or something sharp and cut out the seat so it will fit around the valve. Now you got your back bumper on!

11th, make sure everything is on nice and tight, nothing is loose, and everything is just how you want. Now just put the seat back on the seat post.

Congratulations! you just made an air seat!!!

Fill up the tube to a pressure that suits you best, not to high or you can ruin the cover, not too soft or your gonna push all the way down to the seat base. Mess around and you'll find your right setting.

Ricky W
2006-07-15, 01:25 AM
will a 20' tube work? do you have any pictures of the bottom of it after it is finished and if you have any(witch I doubt) pictures of it as you were making it an you post?

zachjowi
2006-07-15, 02:05 AM
will a 20' tube work? do you have any pictures of the bottom of it after it is finished and if you have any(witch I doubt) pictures of it as you were making it an you post?
I think that a 20 foot tube will be WAY to long you should try a 12.5 inch

Ricky W
2006-07-15, 02:08 AM
I meant 20" but it didn't work. so a 20" wouldn't work because I have a brand new one that I have had laying around for a while or do I need to get a 12.5"

Ricky W
2006-07-15, 02:10 AM
would a 12" x 2.125" work good

zachjowi
2006-07-15, 02:10 AM
I meant 20" but it didn't work. so a 20" wouldn't work because I have a brand new one that I have had laying around for a while or do I need to get a 12.5"
I think you should get a 12.5" because it will be alot easier to cover

Ricky W
2006-07-15, 02:13 AM
so would a 12" x 2.125" work like I asked

zachjowi
2006-07-15, 02:16 AM
so would a 12" x 2.125" work like I asked
I posted at the same time as you so don't get mad

Yes that should work, check out here
http://www.unicycling.org/airseat/

Ricky W
2006-07-15, 02:19 AM
i wasn't mad. I'm sorry if I sounded mad I was just wondering. thanks for telling me all of this

Ricky W
2006-07-15, 02:29 AM
that website helped some. can I drill the hole to the side of the of that bar thing that it says to drill behind where I don't have to cut my bumper

trials_uni
2006-07-15, 02:30 AM
Jerrick thanks for that great step by step...Ill just use the same process for my KH saddle on My Muni...Thanks!

-Phil

Ricky W
2006-07-15, 05:59 PM
i did it with a 20" tube just a few minutes ago only because thats what I had. I have another question. is it supose to look like it did because it don't. the back bumper don't really fit it right and it is taller then normal

zachjowi
2006-07-16, 02:44 AM
i did it with a 20" tube just a few minutes ago only because thats what I had. I have another question. is it supose to look like it did because it don't. the back bumper don't really fit it right and it is taller then normal
the reason it doesn't look right and fit right is because you used the wrong size tube you used the large 20" and not the 12.5" like I said to use

john_childs
2006-07-16, 04:09 AM
There are some links in the links section here about air seats (http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/local_links.php?action=links&catid=28).

Good one is the Miyata Air Seat Conversions For Dummies (http://www.unicycling.org/airseat/).

I also have pictures and a description of a muni air seat and other seat mods in my Airseat Gallery (http://gallery.unicyclist.com/Airseat). Just make a single layer air seat with the air pillow and ignore the foam. Note that the gallery is currently down so you may have to wait a little while before you'll be able to view the gallery.

You can experiment with the tube. Try putting it in a sock, try different sizes, try different arrangements, etc. Go with what works best for you. People have used everything from 8" to 20" tubes.

ice_cold_uni6
2006-07-16, 05:13 AM
will this work on a CX seat?
DX?

john_childs
2006-07-16, 06:12 AM
will this work on a CX seat?
DX?
CX - No. The CX does not have a removable seat cover or removable foam.

DX - Yes. However, not as easily as other seats. The seat cover on the DX is glued to the foam. The seat cover is also stapled to the seat base. It will take some work and patience to get the seat cover off. Probably easier to take the foam off (with the seat cover attached) and buy a KH Fusion seat cover to use.

I'll also add that air seats are getting less necessary as the KH seats keep improving. The UDC gel and the new KH Fusion seats are better and for most riding are good enough for most people.

Ricky W
2006-07-16, 11:24 AM
the reason it doesn't look right and fit right is because you used the wrong size tube you used the large 20" and not the 12.5" like I said to use

i kniw but I didn't have a 20" tube at the time

cikster44
2006-07-16, 05:10 PM
Can u make an air seat witha sun seat

zachjowi
2006-07-16, 05:21 PM
i kniw but I didn't have a 20" tube at the time
I thought you said you used a 20" tube and not the 12.5" tube:confused:

Jerrick
2006-07-16, 06:20 PM
I posted a ste-by-step guide for you, saying the tube size and everything you need to do, did you even read it? It had everything you needed except pictures.

zachjowi
2006-07-16, 06:31 PM
I posted a ste-by-step guide for you, saying the tube size and everything you need to do, did you even read it? It had everything you needed except pictures.
I don't think the OP read or listened to our information

Ricky W
2006-07-18, 11:37 AM
i screwed up. at first I had a 20" tube in it now I have a 12" tube in it

beefybij
2014-08-28, 05:25 PM
I wanna pimp out my lx saddle for use on long coker rides.

All the webpages that used to have photo instructions are down, anywhere I can find some? Or at least a photo of what the final product is supposed to look like?

newob
2014-08-29, 03:20 PM
Or at least a photo of what the final product is supposed to look like?

Yes, see Trading Post: pics are on my CL ad.

beefybij
2014-08-30, 12:06 AM
newob thanks

I attempted it yesterday and kinda messed up when putting the seatpost back on :(
It didn't seem like it would be that good because the tube didn't fit evenly--is it comfortable?

just using my muni saddle for now

jtrops
2014-09-01, 09:27 PM
I wanna pimp out my lx saddle for use on long coker rides.

All the webpages that used to have photo instructions are down, anywhere I can find some? Or at least a photo of what the final product is supposed to look like?

I think, generally speaking, it's not a thing anymore. Saddles have come so far since air conversions were popular. I think some people may prefer air saddles, but most have moved on. UDC used to sell a special "sock" for holding the tube in the right way to make the air conversion easier.

I remember reading one account of someone who flatted his saddle during a ride! It's bad enough that the tire might go flat.

If you want to try one I would pick up the one Newob is offering on the trading post. Since it's an LX post/saddle it should fit any frame made for a 25.4mm (1") seatpost.

LanceB
2014-09-05, 02:54 PM
I have one of the KH "Air" saddles on my 26" muni. It was there when I bought it from a guy on this forum. After a while (about a year) the internal rubbing eventually wore a hole in the tube and it went flat. I just took it out and patched it. Now it's OK again.
Overall I wouldn't say this was a great saddle, but it's not bad. The reason I leave it on the muni is that I'm typically not in the saddle for long periods of time when riding off-road. Usually not more than 5 or 10 minutes before getting off (or falling off) and walking a bit. I wouldn't want it for my road 32 or 36r, where I can go for 5 miles or more without a dismount. Would it be more comfortable than the stock Torker saddle? Maybe, but not by a big margin. Being able to adjust the air pressure is nice, but doesn't make that big a difference.
In my opinion, the thing I like about this saddle is that it has a narrow profile, and is easy to set it more on the right side, while my "personal anatomy" goes over to the left. Works for me, but, as always, YMMV.

blueharmony
2014-09-08, 06:03 PM
I have a carbon fiber Miyata saddle that would make a good air seat, if anyone is interested in buying it from me. It's just the saddle frame, no holes drilled in it at all so there would be some work to do but would make a nice seat.

I bring this up in this thread because Miyata and LX seats have the same bolt pattern. Again, this seat has no bold holes but the can easily be drilled. I just haven't gotten around to it. :-(